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There are people on /his/ who unironically believe class struggle
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There are people on /his/ who unironically believe class struggle existed before the 19th century
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>>451359

seems like before the 19th century, people believed that you were simply born into your lot in life because you either deserve it or god demanded it. seems pretty logical for the times. this whole idea of "they have more than me because they oppress me" is silly because 9 times out of 10, they have more than you because they are better than you in every way.
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>>451359
I see you have strong opinions on the feudal mode of production not being a mode of production, why don't you be forthright about them.
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>>451359
I had a very socialist teacher once and talked about medieval pre industrial europe as if it was a golden age of socialism and self reliance, where people shared the open land and bartered for goods while the lords watched over from afar with little meddling.

Is there some kind of academic sect of socialism that actually believes this?
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>>451380
>mode of production
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>>451422
>Is there some kind of academic sect of socialism that actually believes this?
Read the first chapter of the first edition of Hammond & Hammond's Village Labourer. It is available online through the usual "out of copyright" avenues.

The idea that the common was a rural idyll was very popular in british idealist socialism, see the utopian socialists of the early 19th century and their imagined communities.
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>>451422
The state has increased exponentially in its capabilities to coerce, subdue and enforce, as well as the increased popular vs professional military gap. It's more able to supplant your needs and create dependency, and it's able to more imbue ideology on a deep and massive scale through mass education, media and so on. It's not really untrue, but golden age or even preferable is stretching it.

He sounds like some type of anarchist who prefers local decentralized self-management.
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>>451465
>as well as the increased popular vs professional military gap.
AK-47.
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>>451359
>dualist systems will ultimately reveal a winner
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>>451490
Because Iraq and Afghanistan are as pacified as they were under the smoothbore muskets of the Ottoman and British?
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>>451510
Other states are able to help them more effectively :^)
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Are you the same retard who thought nationalism didn't exist before the 19th century?
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>>451465
I dont believe he was an anarchist, he believed in nationalized health care, stricter gun control the typical from the American left but he idealized medieval Europe and spent days going off an tangents about how great the art was and how the dark age is a misnomer despite the fact he was a religious jew who seemed to hold some sort of anti christian sentiments

Quite an odd fellow

>>451429
Thanks for the source
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>>451359
>There are people on /his/ who have never heard of the long system of Chinese peasant uprisings
This doesn't surprise me. American Christians tend to be poorly educated.
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>>451527
You'd think they would have heard of Munster and Lollardy.
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>>451525
>Ideas exist without change in a world of forms.
Go to bed Plato.
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