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Has irony replaced christian stoicism as the modern way of life in developed western countries?
Wasn't Socrates the progenitor of irony already?
>>447223
Stoicism was a way of life? When did that happen?
>>447223
>stoicism
>christian
>greek philosophy
go to bed marcy marc
>>447223
if by modern you mean starting some time around the 5th century...
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>>447232
>>447234
Stoicism was converted into "christian values". Be wise, humble, do your best, ignore things out of your control, god wills it that way. Come on, thats basic stuff.
>>447261
stoic values indeed.
Yes, your fleeting fashion choices and preferred speech patterns for a few years represent a fundamental shift in the Western zeitgeist.
>>447265
Those are hardly fine instructions on how to live.
Meanwhile the stoic works of Marcus Aurelius have been considered how a good western christian ought to think and live, while the stoic ideal of dispassion is considered the perfect moral state in eastern christianity.
>>447266
>byzantine effeminates
>papal degenerates
>baroque hedonists
>romantic layabouts
>bohemian profligates
>hipster vagabonds
like this if you wish you'd been born before 325
>>447283
>pagan philosophers
>orgasming 18 times in a single night in a bed full of virgins covered in olive oil
Similarities
>Serving God / the Logos
>What is the highest thing in your life? Who or what are you serving?
>Inner service, not external spectacle
>Askesis
>Serving the City of God before the City of Man
Differences
>Afterlife
>Satan
So the only major ideological difference between stoicism and christianity is that those who dont comply are punished, while those who comply are rewarded.
>>447289
>Inner service, not external spectacle
>Askesis
a rare occurence in christianity lad
>>447301
We are talking about proper christianity, not monetized christianity.
>>447307
if there ever was a bigger no true scotsman...
>>447309
Christianity is meant for beggars and martyrs, not for city states in the middle of Europe made of gold. Thats an abomination of the idea.
>>447325
and yet, it was the city states and richmen and common folk, that in most part drove christianity along for 2000 years or in other words, nearly whole of its existence
alternatively, if comparing idealisms, what is the idealised version of modern ironic hipsterism? :r)
>>447355
>alternatively, if comparing idealisms, what is the idealised version of modern ironic hipsterism? :r)
/pol/
ironic racism, ironic nazism, ironic antisemitism, ironic conservatism, ironic traditionalism, ironic christianity all turned into a caricature of these values when the people convince themselves its not irony, but genuine
>>447369
neat
>>447369
I do all of those thing unironically desu minus the christianity, or well, i have my own version of christianity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7qTPUj7wVc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yen8xGc6t_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tynKRMVGsAI
