Around the time of Julius Caesar Rome had a population of a million people, it was one of several prominant urban centers with hundreds of thousand of people in the Roman Republic/Empire. This was achieved by complex infrastructure to supply Rome with food, water and keep it clean. Rome had apartment buildings, factories and a wide variety of specialization of labor. You would find a few urban centers meeting the size of Rome here and there afterwards (Chang'an, Baghdad, Kaifeng and eventually Tokyo) elsewhere
After the collapse of the Roman Empire the dozens of petty kingdoms that rose in it's place could not support such urban centers and cities in western shriveled and either died or become pale shadows of their former selves. For a thousand years you could count the number of cities in western Europe on one hand. You only had a Western European city of similar population to ancient Rome in London in 1800, which sat on a vast colonial empire, was Europe's great trading power, had new world crops and was beginning to mechanize agriculture.
But the Dark Ages never happened. Nope, never was a thing. Just something something some Renaissance guys made up to make themselves look better.
Put your strawman away. Nobody says the Dark Ages never happened, just that it doesn't encompass the entirety of the millenium that is the middle ages. It also needs to be acknowledged that they were largely restricted to Europe; China and elsewhere didn't give a shit about it beyond maybe "damn, where'd that trade go?", and even then there was still the ERE
>>426553
You must be really ignorant.
>You only had a Western European city of similar population to ancient Rome in London in 1800.
That lie, triggered me; There is Cordoba in the middle ages that shadowed Damascus as the capital of the mankind
>>426553
there is shit in your post that is wrong, but either way, nobody denies that the "Dark Ages" didnt happened.
Its just that its naming induces a completely wrong notion of what that period was.
Yes, the period between the barbarian invasions and 1000 is a period of constant conflict, chaos and strife generally speaking, as the old order of the classical urban civilization collapsed and was substituted by a rural civilization with a huge germanic influence.
But the correct viewpoint of the Dark Ages is to see it as a period of radical transition, rather than of a period of "decay" or some sort of "lost age"
>>426601
That post specifically refers to Western Europe.
>>426666
Before Rome, the European worlds was connected, bound together for centuries, there was no confusion of peoples. Rome destroyed Europe and replaced it with its stagnant wealth stealing system, once the Empire collapsed the glue that tied Europe together disappeared, that glue replaced a multitude of peoples who thrived before the Empire sucked the life out of them, Rome set the world back about a 1000 years, Rome took from all the peoples and nations about it, it drank from the well sources of people, technology, and wealth. Then Rome systematically poisoned each well before disappearing forever.
>>426666
After Rome fell Rome was in a dark age until the late middle ages 1200s.
>>426703
now substitute Rome for the US.
>>426722
uh huh
>>426646
>correct
more like popular you insufferably arrogant faggot.
- I don't see how not having millions of people cramped into tiny commieblocks like an insect hive is a sign of "darkness".
- Roman cities depopulated over the last two centuries of the Roman Empire, not "after its collapse".
- The Dark Ages did happen but lasted about three centuries. Western Europe in the early 1300s was vastly superior to Rome (and to the Renaissance for that matter) in almost every way.
>>426703
This, Rome was a cancer.
>They rob, kill and plunder all under the deceiving name of Roman Rule. They make a desert and call it peace.
>>428854
> I don't see how not having millions of people cramped into tiny commieblocks like an insect hive is a sign of "darkness".
Translation: I have no understanding what a cash economy or division of labor is.
You despair of humans being in insect hives, you should despair of humans like jackels fighting over scraps who can not thrive or excel, only survive if that.
>>426620
>moops
>european
>>429585
>humans like jackels fighting over scraps who can not thrive or excel, only survive if that
That describes Rome.
