So, was this guy a redhead? Apparently the only source is a Muslim guy that didn't even see him.
Wasnt Guan Yu described as having a magnificent red beard or was that some other Dynasty warrior?
>>418674
>completely Asiatic
>Mongoloid
If he had red hair, it'd be through some genetic lottery ticket freaky 1 in 1 million odds if actually true.
Why do these guy's portraits look so adorable?
>>418696
I've never heard this, but Guan Yu is nearly always portrayed as having a red face in the Daoist and Buddhist depictions after he was deified.
>>418674
There was so much gene mixing across the steppe that it certainly wouldn't be implausible. Red headed steppe children are born to this day.
>>418710
I don't think you understand how far the steppe stretched and how much rape (and therefore gene mixing) happened.
>>418721
I guess you could say that's a red headed steppe child.
>>418710
>>418726
Here's a blonde one.
>great great great great great great great great great great grandpa fucked some Visigoth qt as a Hunnic tribe and genes made it all the way back to Mongolia
Everything from Ukraine to Mongolia formed a giant rape continuum, it's not impossible.
Also Tocharians weren't that far from there and they were blonde IEs.
>>418728
Ok well done
>>418721
>>418728
>>418841
that joke was literally in the post he quoted for it
>>418726
But the Great rape of everything happened AFTER Genghis
>>418888
The steppe itself was full of rapes and wife stealing. There were rumors that Genghis's own oldest son was a rape baby of a tribe that stole his wife before he rose to power. And then each individual tribe clashed with people from Europe to Korea over thousands of years.
>>418888
It was happening for hundreds of years by the time he was born.
>>418726
> implying mutations spread like a disease
>>418888
noice
it's a /pol/ meme
>le mongols were white nordics
Temujin was Minamoto no Yoshitsune who faked his death, according to some Japs.
>>418696
In Chinese traditional operas, Guan Yu had red face, Sun Quan was the one having red/purple-ish beard.
fun fact: all the rape and the gene mixing created strong genes that managed to withstand beubonic plague while eurocucks were dying by the million
if mongols pushed a bit further, it would be the conquest of south america all over again, with all the disease shit and genocide
>>418996
like a quarter of the average mongol's wives were white nordic
>>419173
>tfw white people say
>we wuz mongolz n shiet
You will never be a Mongoloid, filthy caucasoid.
>>418996
What?
I get it that /pol/tards like to spout bullshit like this all the time but there actually is a debate that he may have had red hair because of a description of him
It really doesn't matter it's just an interesting discussion in history, nobody really knows what he looked like and nobody is sure how credible other people's descriptions of him are.
>>418742
Out of how many?
>>419005
thats not a fact though, its a vague something you heard on a """"history"""" channel documentary.
>>418721
Yo what's up with them genetics anyways?
>>419265
It's the Steppe. Things mixed there and kept Europe and China separate.
>>418696
He had a red as fuck face and a huge beard, Sun Quan is depicted with a dark magenta beard sometimes.
>>418929
At that point is it even rape anymore? The girls probably just said 'lol w/e another day another man cucking my husband'.
>>418742
She looks kind of cute.
>>418888
Before, you waste of Quads.
Altaic Nomads migrated eastwards and subjugated a lot of Iranics/Indo-European Nomads along the way.
It may have not been meant to be taken literally, like the ancient descriptions that said the Buddha had blue eyes and 40+ teeth, but both those attributes were just symbolic.
>>419469
did red/ginger hair have some special significance to mongols back then?
>>419491
Hell if I know, just saying it's a possibility to keep in mind whenever you read or see depictions of people in the past. Think of how skin color and height in Egyptian depictions was determined by symbolic meaning and shouldn't always be taken at face value, or how Medieval writers depicted Jesus as lily white.
>>419491
>did red/ginger hair have some special significance to mongols back then?
Nope.
In East Asia, however, it was scene as a barbarous feature.
>>419504
>it was scene as a barbarous feature.
i can see where they're coming from. i mean, to me it still looks really odd. back then it must have been extremely shocking
>>418674
what's up with /his/ obsession with Mongolians?
We have three threads up right now dealing with mongolian shit
>>419521
Ghengish Khan is an extremely interesting person.
>>418726
>>418819
>>418888
>>418941
>>418721
Wasn't he originally from a tribe in Northern Siberia? The people from that area probably already looked like a mix of asian/Caucasian features, they were probably their own ethnic group.
Similar to the natives of northern Europe around Sweden have Asian looking eyes.
>>419542
>Wasn't he originally from a tribe in Northern Siberia?
I don't know, is Mongolia in northern Siberia?
>>418674
The Islamic Antichrist is a redhead
>>419516
Nah, it was largely due to the fact that Indo-Iranian nomads were the OG Steppenigger people for the Chinese before the Altaics started shit.
Why blonde was never a shock to them, I don't know. But red hair is somehow particularly disgusting to the Imperial Chinese, they refer to how disgusting it is a lot for.
So much so that Hongmao/Angmo (lit. Red Hair) is the Chinese prejorative for white people to this day.
>>418721
>redheaded steppe children
Underrated post
>>419469
The marks of the Buddha were not considered symbolic. They were considered to be actual qualities which someone with sufficient supernormal attunemeant - the "divine eye" - could perceive. At the same time, in earlier strata of texts we find things antithetical to a godlike Shakyāmuni, like the Buddha saying he is at ease defecating when alone in the forest.
>>418674
There are redheads/blondes/light eyes in the steppes. Not because muh ebin rape in Genghis time but simply because there has been some light populations there for a long time though a minority .
>>418674
All this Ginger hatred by historical societies triggers me desu.
>>418885
>>888
nice trips
>>419516
It was like romans seeing blonde people as barbarians because the germanics had a lot of blonde people.
>>418715
Damn Ogedai's got a teardrop like a real thug nigga. I bet it was for tolui.
>>418674
>Ramses II was a redhead
>Genghis Khan was a redhead
The Eternal Anglo strikes again!
Mongol here, I'm red haired, and since I'm a descendant of genghis khan, also white.
>>418674
No, but he almost gave the whole world autism, so there's that.
>>419004
Yoshitsune sure had a change of heart after faking his death huh.
>>422178
Happy thanksgiving, Pilgrims
>>418996
ITT: Butthurt redditors who didnt even read the thread
>>418996
>implying you have to be white to have red hair
