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What went wrong?
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t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>406230
British superiority.
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>>406230
Nothing really went wrong, I mean it's still one of the wealthiest countries in the world
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Napoleon made the royal family go to Brazil, then Communists made the government abandon its colonies, which are now mostly shitholes
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>>406230
>letting banned jews dominate your mercantilism
>expecting success
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>>406483
>>406248
>can't read
Btw, the dutch are actually one of the main reasons for the portuguese decline
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>make your empire by stealing Portugal's success
They deserve everything bad that happened to them.
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>>406498
Portugal kek detected
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>>406483
They would've abandoned them anyways.
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They attacked the wrong colony.
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>>406490
you mean the other way round
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>dutch got thrashed so bad in India that they pretty much left it.
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>>406484
They got success though
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>>407266
what
No.
The dominance of the portuguese spice trade was effectively ended during the 17th century because the dutch took over a big fat chunk of their Asian possessions.

>>407292
The dutch had a considerable influence in India up until the french came and annexated the dutch state, which gave the UK the perfect excuse to take over dutch colonies during the napoleonic era.
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>>406230

Alliance swift.
And Willy chosing his new adquired realm over his inherited Republic.
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>>409153
i thought we meant territorial possessions. like as in an empire or a vast kingdom or something. i thought that was the point of op's pick.
the portuguese kicked the dutch pretty hard in their war
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>>406230
>Taiwan
They were driven out of there quite early by a renegade Chinese admiral.
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>>406230
REMOVE KAAS!

Belanda keju pulang ke Holland!
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>>406230
Ok, long answer before I go back to studying as I was supposed to do.

Claiming a specific reason for the end of Dutch dominance is useless, as there isn’t a single dominant factor as a reason for the decline. And in another way >>406479 is right as the nation is still one of the richest and most stable states in the world.
A more macroeconomical answer would be the fact that the geographical limits of the Dutch republic meant that the long term sustainability of a huge colonial empire was never a viable option. This in essence is the same reason why Portugal could not stay the global player it was during the 16th century; there is jus an inherent lack of people in the motherland to succesfully administer a huge oversea empire. With Indonesia as an exception, the Dutch weren ever able to make the transition of trade posts to actual inland dominance as the UK and France did from the 18th century and onwards.

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>>409357
The internal Dutch political system was dominated by two factors during the Dutch golden century; the ‘Orangists ( prinsgezinden), supporters of the Stadhouder and the house of Orange-Nassau, and the States Party (staatsgezinden), the supporters of the ruling regents class. The orangists could claim their legitimacy from the leading position that the house of Orange-Nassau had during the Dutch revolt, and as a result of that this faction wad always in support of maintaining a considerable land force in order to fight the republic’s catholic continental enemies(Generally France and Spain). While the republic obviously didn’t have a monarch, the position of Stadhouder (orginally the combined commander of admirality and land forces, hence the insistence of a huge army as this was literally the power source for any Stadhouder) evolved more and more in an almost monarchical position ( see Frederik-Hendrik as a prime example of this), and the wealth of the republic and succesful marriage policies of the house of Orange-Nassau gave them the prestige of a Royal family throughout europe.

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>>409360
The States party consisted of regents, the rich ruling class that had made bank due to the massive increasement in oversea trade since the late 16th century. Their focus was always on a large navy instead of a large land army, and as they were the official rulers of the country they feared more power for the Stadhouder. The states party was able to gain the upper hand in internal politics for a few decades during the 17th century ( the most famous example of this is the ‘ Eerste stadhouderloze tijdperk’ between 1650 and 1672, in which there was no appointed Stadhouder at all) , but Orangist faction would come into control in 1672 due to a massive invasion from both France, England and the bishops of Koln and Munster. After this event (in which the republic barely survived) William III was the stable leader of the republic between 1672 and 1702, but his focus on destroying the continental dominance of France meant a decline of the naval power of the republic, which was still the spine of economic success. The republic was forced to participate in the massive continental wars that lasted until 1715, which in essence ruined the Financial stability of the state. So due to this policy, the Dutch lost the initiative.
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The Netherlands dominated in an age where England and France were probably at their weakest (in a long time at least).

It ended when those two states regained their power, especially France under Louis XIV. The man was determined to break the Dutch as a great power in 1672, and succeeded.

Indonesia was lost because the US asked them nicely to leave.
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Thank you Dutch Republic for teaching us your most Jewish of ways.
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>>409419
>succeeded
Questionable, I say he succeeded, but that his victory was a pyrrhic victory victory, as his endless wars were the start of a fucked up french treasure until the revolution.
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>>406230
>expel the jews from Spain and Portugal
>they end up in Netherlands and ultimately fuck both empires

should have genocide them instead desu
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>>409351
selamat pagi orang indon? kamu dari /int/ ke?
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>>406230
There were less than 2 miilion of them. There is simply no way they could have sustained a global empire.
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