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You wake up. You're Tsar Nicholas II of Russia. The year is 1912. You have five years to stop the revolution from happening. What do you do?
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>>402121
Abdicate
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>>402123

To who?
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Start a russian type of Meiji restoration
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>>402130
stalin
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Kill all the Jews and their cronies
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>>402139

I feel like that's the opposite of stopping the revolution.
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>>402121
Abdicate in favor of the dictatorship of the proletariat, the way God intended.
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>>402121
Realize the war is unwinnable, since russian forces can't fucking fight for shit, sue for peace, and quit being a kek to rasputin.

Put in motion means to institute a parlimentary system of gov't and hope for the best.
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Continue Stolypin's land reforms/redistribution to placate peasants
Rapid industrialization along Western lines, invest in infrastructure, make business easier to improve economy
Give the Duma more power to appease democrats/liberals
Bring in labour regulations to placate workers
Engage in both subversion and propaganda against revolutionaries
Make sure the military is properly equipped and trained - bring in French/British advisers, learn code
Try to avoid conflict with Austria/Germany over the Balkans, maybe look towards collapsing Ottoman Empire in Caucasus to satisfy imperialists
Make sure there's a succession plan considering Alexei's condition
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>>402133
They did
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>>402153
Where the Jews actually involved in the revolution or is this just a troll?
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>>402180
Good luck alienating and pissing off the aristocracy.
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>>402309
A lot of revolutionaries were Jews (Trotsky, Kamenever, Radek, Zinoviev, Sverdlovsk)

Maybe I'd add improving conditions for Jews, considering the constant pogroms, revolutionary participation, and limits on freedom of movement/jobs (i.e. get rid of the Pale)
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>>402338
So get overthrown by aristocrats instead of the people?

Russia was pretty fucked by 1912, reform was necessary but I understand that things were so downhill that maybe even reform wouldn't be enough
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>>402121
When Franz Ferdinand is assassinated, repudiate the alliance with Serbia to avoid being drawn into WWI. Without the White Army being weakened by the war, the commies wouldn't stand a chance.

Also, introduce Rasputin to Baron von Ungern-Sternberg, just to see what crazy shit they'd get up to.
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Bread and circuses
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>>402419
>Bread

That backfired bad at Khodnyka
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>>402426

less mouths to feed seems like a win. Also shift all blame on a convenience scapegoat. I'll go with tartars since blaming the Jews is pretty cliche desu
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I challenge Vladimir Lenin to a boxing match
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>>402365
The fact that the Tzarist Secret Police had Stolypin assassinated shows just how big a challenge fixing Russia would be
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I don't see how I could possible do it. Therefor I would take all my money out of the country, abdicate, and live the rest of my life on a tropical island fucking island gook bitches
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>>402533
abdicate to who? leo tolstoy?
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>>402535

first come first serve
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>>402121
Why stop it when I can hijack it?
>hire double
>new identity as random Stalin supporter
>progress
>when revolution is almost done wipe the board of my accomplices because I have power on both sides
>go back home chuckling merrily
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>>402121
Tell the allies and the central powers to fuck off, the dead of some nobody is no reason to start a war, also, start teaching my son to be a king, so I won't fuck up the empire like my father did.
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>>402342
Well its not really suprising Jews were involved, the Tsars had a hate boner for jews for a few generations at that point.
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>>402567

It's always funny when /pol/tards are surprised or angered that jews would rebel against a government that hates them
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>>402577
b-b-b-but jews ARE the government and always have been
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>>402410
but then you lose prestige
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>>402121
Nothing
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imitate America
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Fight the war with Japan a month longer. Japan completely exhausted their entire war supply fighting those big victories, hold out another month and you can force a surrender.
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>>402121

>Send Rasputin in pilgrimage in Europe, ask him to get me a gift from every country
>Fuck my wife hardly for another son
>Start secret alliance with France and England, to fight commies, give them some ghost-katorgas.
>Meanwhile help secretly the Black Hand with weapons and money in exchange of their support against commies
>Give meat to "real" russians to fight hunger while not helping jews, which give me the support of my people, and also weaken the commies.
>During his trip, Rasputin meet Lenine, they eventually become friends, 1914 is coming.
>In spring 1914, I send a letter to Rasputin, suggesting him to visit Sarajevo, because of the religious melting-pot.
>In June 1914, Lenine and Rasputin are enjoying the weather in Sarajevo while Franz Ferdinand is in town.
>Gavrilo passing by
>Wombo-combo
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>>402616

Preventing WW1 seems like the most reasonable option here. That buys you a lot of time to deal with whatever is going on in Russia, plus saves thousands of lives by itself.
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Create an elected parliament, pass laws protecting labor unions, create a welfare state.
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>>402692
>thousands
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>>402612
>Fight the war with Japan a month longer.
Would the Russian people accept this?
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>>402712
Welfare state's pretty out there for the time, anon. The first 2 might fly (though it'd be hell to pay with the nobility) and at least were in practice in other countries, but the whole idea of a "welfare state" would look like you were on crack to someone in 1915, let alone to a Russian arisocrat in 1915.
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>>402727
Then add: encourage peasants to murder aristocracy and provide no military support to defend the nobles.
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>>402730
Let's talk specifics. How does one encourage the peasants to murder the aristocrats without immediately getting coup'd by an arisocrat-lead military and civil service?
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>>402717

Hundreds at least.
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>>402121
Declare total war on commies
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>>402730
>>402735
Remember, this is an age before mass media. Further, given the literacy rates in Russia, you can't even really rely on the printing press. How exactly do you reach the peasants other than through the aristocracy?

The much better idea is not "lol kill da aristocrats" (aside from its impracticability, it has a serious chance of turning on you a la French Revolution) but rather to go for some sort of a compromise deal that might probably get a significant faction of nobles mad at you, but not enough for them to successfully overthrow you. Maybe an elected parliment, but with a strong House of Lords.

Granted, you can't just half-ass giving power to the people, because then the social problems that let the Bolsheviks succeed don't get solved, but starting the revolution yourself is a bullshit cop-out even aside from its inherent dangers.
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>>402121
Easy, when the Archduke is assassinated, tell Austria to go to town on Serbia and don't mobilize troops, which is what started Germany to do so and then directly led to your abdication.

Then try to introduce some reforms to please the people.
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>>402533
this
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>>402741
>implying it wasn't millions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties
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>>402755
This. Russian mobilization put the ball firmly rolling for the Great War. As long as you don't give orders to mobilize the war can possibly be avoided. The czar couldn't have even cancelled the order because lots of generals and other officers simply did all they could so communications for cancellations wouldn't reach the troops.
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>>402121
Not enter WW1 for one thing, treaties be damned. Focus on industrialization and on giving people more representation in the government. Strenghten the army and make sure they are loyal only to me, then execute and imprison most nobles for shits and giggles so people see I'm "cleaning house", fund literal bread and circus campaigns with their impounded wealth.
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>>402795

>The czar couldn't have even cancelled the order because lots of generals and other officers simply did all they could so communications for cancellations wouldn't reach the troops.

What are you talking about? Are you saying that somebody tried to stop the war and the troops just didn't get the message? That's tragic.
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Back the fuck up before I get smacked the fuck up
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>>402481

I like it

>>402121

I call for radical land reform and use the military to ensure the nobles don't get in my way. I work to establish an extensive trade agreement with Germany wherein we offer them very favorable prices for our oil if they supply us with university professors, heavy industrial capital, and more trains; in the process entangling our economies together. I further arrange to sell them the majority of Poland (and maybe Konigsberg parts of the Baltics) in several years time, recognizing that Poles are considered traitors to the Slavic race and have never been allowed to prosper under Russian rule. I then enact universal male suffrage and use the money from the sale of Poland to fund expensive projects with the goal of creating a favorable image of the state among the broader public while the new German Empire makes the UK and France shit themselves in fear.

Should protests still try to overthrow me I would call for a constitutional convention of representatives from across the entire empire, granting them significant power and leaving me as a more symbolic figure.

absolute madman mode: I tell the Germans that we should destroy the Ottomans and reform the Roman Empire, creating a friendly state that will help fight British influence in the Middle East. We unite all of Eastern Europe in a world war against the Ottomans before establishing a secular state similar to Ataturk's Turkey + Greece, Bulgaria, and Serbia without the nationalism / genocides. Maybe Armenia can join too.
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>>402811
Nah the czar didn't cancel the mobilization. It's just that the army brass really really wanted the war to happen so they made sure the mobilization could not be rolled back anymore.

It's the same old war fever everyone in Europe had.
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>>402121
I promote Durnovo to foreign or prime minister.

Read this memorandum he put out on the problems of European diplomacy:
http://novaonline.nvcc.edu/eli/evans/his242/documents/Durnovo.pdf
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I'd fuck my bitches, smoke some crack and drink the vodka...if the kingdom's going down then who am I to stand in the way of progress? It was a kingdom in the 20th century, Nick knew the trend was out and that's why it failed
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>>403084
I like this guy.

I'd just offer huge bounties for the heads of the revolution. And imitate German reforms in order to appease the masses.
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>>402121
Take all my gold, take my family and run out of that shit infested country.
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I get the fuck out of Russia and secretly swap places with King George.
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>only one mention on Rasputin

A lot of good ideas but we still have yet to deal with the issue of Nicholas' son, his wife's faith in Rasputin and the Romanov's loss of political support because of Rasputin.

I'd just frame the commies for killing Rasputin. That would at least get the retarded populace who lived Rasputin to lose faith in communism.
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>>402121
I would do nothing to stop the revolution

I would however give the sailors at Kronstadt all the food, money and weapons they could need.
Death to all those who oppose freedom for the working man!
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Stop being a pussy. He's literally the only Russian ruler that was lenient
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>>402175
>war is unwinnable
>allies win even after Russia caves in

wouldn't it be better to fight, but just conduct war more defensively?
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>>403341
No. Russians got their shit pushed in on every German offensive.
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Enact all the socialist reforms myself.
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>>402121
Realize the country's fucked so I call a special meeting of all of the most important aristocrats. Give it to them straight, basically say either give the people power and freedom or we French Revolution 2: boyar boogaloo. Sign treaty with Germany and Austria to let Serbia get dicked by Austria in exchange for money which I then use to build infrastructure, and pay a small portion to the aristocrats to buy their cooperation. Establish a bicameral legislature with a House of Lords equally powerful to House of Commons. Land reform and subsidization of early factories plus small tariffs on primary resources to encourage extraction industries, no tariffs on luxury goods so as to not upset the aristocrats further. Hopefully once the economy modernizes, tax revenues will be sufficient to afford public schools and complete the infrastructure building programs. From there it's just constant reinvestment of increasing revenues into infrastructure and public education. I keep a few million monies each year and invest them in personal accounts to ensure the royal family doesn't have to rely on being Tzars to live comfortably. Also, secretly hire someone to rape rasputin, then have someone else discover him with cum in his dumpster. I then accuse him of faggotry and have him legally imprisoned for doing something everybody at the time hates.
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>be gentle ruler that lives as a country gentleman instead of a warmongering dictator
>get murdered by your people for not being brutal enough
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>>403439
The last two sentences made this post worth reading.
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>>402121

Stay aligned with Germany, no matter how much Willie fucked up diplomatically. Yeah, he's a bit of a dumbass with a fixation on hate fucking England, but him and his General staff are goddamn lunatics I really shouldn't want to cross.
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>>403807
Staying aligned to someone is a bit difficult when the other side works actively against that.
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>>404374
Anglo propaganda
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If Russia would have newer gone communist would it be like larger version of Finland now?
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>>402577
Same reason /pol/tards call themselves anti-zionist as well. Jews should NOT be allowed to have a national homeland and SHOULD stay in your nations as minorities so you can blame them for everything and kill them? If the jews weren't shit on constantly in diaspora there wouldn't have been a zionist movement. Stupid goyim...
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Make a ploy to assassinate Ferdinand.
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>>404487
thats some pretty strong propaganda that makes the germans drop their ties to russia
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>>404487
>implying the 2nd Reich did nothing wrong
Invading slavic lands was always part of the plan, in both the first and second world wars.
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>Warn Lenin, Trotsky and the wholer evolutionary gang that their buddy Stalin is fucking crazy
>Organize a peacful abdication of power much like the end of the Monarchy in Germany in 1918
>Put constitutional limits on terms, with the use of a military coup as a failsafe to keep the gommunists from going further than state socialism
>Kill Hitler, Goering, Schacht, Rohm, Bormann Goebbels and Himmler just for the keks
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>>402410
not aiding Serbia would lose Russia their influence over the slavic world in Europe.

Serbia then was the only slavic country next to Russia that was independent and a strong promoter of pan-slavism. Letting Serbia to the dogs, would show slavic people in the A-U Empire that in a case of their own strive for independence from a thousand year old slavery by the germans they couldn't count on Russia or would even start to resent Russia for betraying a slavic state.
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>>404553
>s-serbia dindu nuffin'
>what's that Austria-Hungary?
>wait no you cannot investigate the murder of your heir
>we had nothing to do with it t-trust us
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>abolish all class structures
>set up a constitutional monarchy with an elected parliament, like the UK.
>remove all tangible power from the monarchy
>set up monarchy as a ceremonial role
>give the parliament control over all the crown owned lands and the revenues those lands generate. in exchange for an allowance to keep the royal family living a life of luxury among a few palaces.
>the crown retains one power in the government. if the parliament wants to go to war. the crown must sign off. can only be overridden by a unanimous decision by the parliament.
>stay out of wars where Russia wasn't attacked first.
>independence for Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, etc
>bill of rights modeled after the united states
>break up large land holdings by rich families. to make the land more productive.
>change succession so women can become tsar.
>pay off someone to kill Lenin while still in prison
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>>402723

A lot better than they accepted losing
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>enjoy facial hair
>fuck bitches
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>>402612
That is stupid. Russia was equally as spent and had to go half way around the world to face Japan. While Japan was a day away.
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>>402180

>Continue Stolypin's land reforms/redistribution to placate peasants

Eh wot? The peasants despised Stolypin because he privatized peasant land, ending the practice of communal plots. Basically the Russian equivalent of the Enclosure Acts.
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>>402692
saves resources but what happens with WW! since the germans will send their full might into france wont that seriously change things
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I'd limit the power of the thrown. Strengthen education and industrialism. Strengthen the major opponents of Russian Social Democratic Party. Stop the bolshevik from splitting out of...try to have a weaker war. And get German, Bulgarian or Austro-hungarian papers as soon as possible and take my family out of Russia.
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>>405510
The goal is preserving the monarchy mate. None of this constitutionalist shit.
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>>403101
This is so interesting. The guy was obviously a genius.
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>>405650
I do preserve the Monarchy.
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Party like it's 1912
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>take all my money
>go to the united states
>trade russia and her resourcces for presidency in the us and other privileges
>invite american troops to rule over russia
>go down in history as the only person who ruled both russia and america and was also the richest man on earth
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>>402121
Remove the Jews.
Aid Hitler.
Formulate anti-communist gestapo-esque organizations.
Betray Hitler later.
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>>407324
>Aid Hitler
>World War I
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>>407324
youre dead by the time hitler is a household name
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>>402121
Like other anons have suggested, keep out of WWI at all costs. Fuck the serbs, no help and no damn mobilization. I'd like to just realign my country with Germany and cut off ties to France, but I fear by 1912 it might be too late to do that without making the French go apeshit over my betrayal. Considering I'm fucked if I go into that war, I'll just have to take my chances anyway. Best case scenario would be Germany taking out its blood lust on France and Britain while I try to reform and modernize my country in the meantime. If the French get raped by Germany, they hopefully shouldn't have the means to take any kind of revenge on me. It makes me wonder though, with Russia out of the equation, Germany really might win the great war, won't they? Assuming it still happens in some shape. Ushering in an era of German dominance on the european continent might come back to haunt me if the German brass gets drunk on their victory and start to go after my spheres of interest in eastern europe next. Well, I'll leave that problem to be solved by my successor. If I can get away with reforms, then the revolution should be avoided, mission accomplished.

Besides all that, get rid of Rasputin one way or another.
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>>407603

>Besides all that, get rid of Rasputin one way or another.

>Get rid of the guy who saved your kid's live
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>>407722
He's just too much of a liability. Nothin personnel.
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okay, which one of you was this?

>>>/r9k/24968401
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>leave my wife for a proper russian bitch
>trade in my uniform for a track suit
>squat
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Give up the crown, flee into Britain with my family.
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Im not going to war
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>>402130
>>402535
>to who

The duma you idiots.
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>>407603
Ironically the guy you want to get rid of actually advised Nicholas to keep out of WWI at all costs.
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>>402121
I become buttbuddies with Amercia and seek an alliance with Germany at the expense of France. I also send an assassin to kill any known Bolshiveks both in and out of Russia. Vladimir Lenin dies to a bomb.

So when war breaks out the Bolshiveks inevitably come for my head, they at least don't have their major leaders and I ask my allies to help clean up my mess.

Russia's diplomatic relations are ruined and its seen as a weak shithole, but I manage to stay in power.
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Become an hero
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Why would I want to do that?
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>>402121
1-reinforce control over military
2-invade China using proletariat as cannot fodder
3-invent Internet
4-download porn
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>>404507
Probably not. Finland was better off than most of Russia even before independence.
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>>404531
>Jews should NOT be allowed to have a national homeland
they should be allowed one, probs shouldnt have built it on someone elses homeland tho
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>>411859
why should a religion with a diverse ethnic make up be allowed to claim a homeland in a place where only a minority of the followers are from?

It is like all catholics suddenly claiming Italy as theirs.
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