In 1948 the state of Israel was newly formed and divided into partially unconnected territories. They were surrounded almost completely by Arab League nations that really, really didn't like them. On the other hand the Palestinian people were unilaterally against the foundation of the Israeli state, and had many things that made them in solidarity with other countries. How come, after over 65 years, Palestine has gained only very little statehood recognition, gained no land back from 1948 borders, or won any military victories against Israel?
>>401947
>How come, after over 65 years, Palestine has gained only very little statehood recognition, gained no land back from 1948 borders, or won any military victories against Israel?
Because it was prophesied to come to this in the Bible.
Because the Kikes own the media, the government, and the banks maybe?
>>401947
Because Arabs can't into winning wars.
>>401956
Well why?
>Support from Soviets
>Arab League unification
>massively outnumbered Israelis
>>401959
Because Arabs don't have proper nations
Their allegiance is mainly to the clan or tribe
>>401959
Because generally, they've been hampered by having a bunch of states run by political strongmen who can't allow their armed forces to get too strong, otherwise they'd challenge the Big Man's power.
So they institute rivalries between various branches of the professional service, or even within the same branch, making sure that none of them can rely on each other well, and any attempted coup would need to enlist dozens of people all of whom are selected for their hatred of each other.
This hampers their battlefield effectiveness. A lot.
More modern, but a lot of the same pressures applied back then, you might want to read this.
http://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars
>>401973
Interesting, can you find any in-depth explanations of why Palestinians won?
I apologize in advance for the spoon feeding, but it's pretty difficult to find relevant info that isn't published by obviously biased sources.
It's worth noting that Israel has always been supported by the west and has always had far superior technology. The reason things like the Gaza war look more like a genocide than they do a war is because Palestinian technology is stuck in the 1960's while Israel has a laser defence system that literally destroys missiles in mid air.
Imagine what the causalities would be if the Israelis didn't tell the Gazans where the air strikes are going to be.
>>402197
Israeli technology only surpassed their neighbours in the 1980s. In 1972, 1967, 1956, and 1948, the Arabs had far superior technology.
>>402197
>Imagine what the causalities would be if the Israelis didn't tell the Gazans where the air strikes are going to be.
Didn't they lightly bombard them before launching an airstrike
lol
>>401982
What do you mean "Why Palestinains won?" What exactly have they want?
>>402385
Shit.
I mean why they lost.
>>402388
I don't have any in depth sources studying the phenomenon, but from the gut guess of a guy who did a little poli-sci in college:
Asymettric warfare doesn't really defeat enemies. It raises the costs of pursuing some policy, possibly past the point of tolerance. Think America's involvement in Vietnam. The North Vietnamese weren't driving GIs before them, they couldn't stop the Americans from going where they wanted, doing what they wanted, and blowing up what they wanted. About all they could do was kill a man here, wound a few more there, and wait for the American public to get too tired with the ongoing struggle to continue.
In essence, you try to balance superior commitment to make up for inferior resources.
With the Arab-Israeli struggle though, they run into a problem. Rightly or wrongly, Israel views this as a national struggle to survive, that if they give an inch, the entire Arab world will descend upon them and drive them into the sea and wipe out their homeland. They will commit to the maximum, because their institutional neck is on the line, and damn the costs, whether they're expressed in money, blood, or international prestige.
And when your opponent is willing to pay whatever price, an insurgency, while it might not be defeated, might continue on, also isn't going to defeat the actual nation-state with a real army. With commitments balanced, the side with more resources wins.
>>401947
>How come, after over 65 years, Palestine has gained only very little statehood recognition, gained no land back from 1948 borders, or won any military victories against Israel?
It might swung around back to Palestinians, though. They have way bigger numbers and Israel doesn't seem to be sustainable. Israel will have to rely on the Orthodox (who make babies) and the settlers (who make babies and are potentially crazy and bad PR).
It's entirely possible that when Israel needs to fight the most, they will have lost control of the settlers and the Orthodox, which will open them to possibility of defeat.
I think America sees this and they're slowly cutting ties while maintaining the Jewish vote as much as possible.
>>401952
>Because it was prophesied to come to this in the Bible.
Too bad that Jahweh hasn't informed the other inhabitants
>>401959
>Soviet "equipment"
>Arab "unification"
>>401959
Repeatedly BTFO by tactics. Attacked en masse several times, in 1948 to destroy Israel as it was born, in 1968 to try again, and in 1973 on Yom Kippur, still got BTFO every time. Am Yisrael Chai bitches. Arab states #rekt for all time over and over.
>>401947
>>How come, after over 65 years, Palestine has gained only very little statehood recognition, gained no land back from 1948 borders, or won any military victories against Israel?
Because Israel is allied with America, and America is the most powerful country on earth.
