Ethiopia
>Slavery was fundamental to the social, political and economic order of medieval Ethiopia. Racism in the territory was traditionally mainly directed at the Nilotic ethnic minorities, as well as other individuals with similarly pronounced "Negroid" physical features. Collectively, these groups are locally known as Shanqella or barya, derogatory terms originally denoting slave descent, irrespective of the individual's family history.[4][5]
Slaves in Ethiopia, 19th century.
Historically, the Shanqella constituted most of the slave labour in the ruling local Afro-Asiatic societies.[6] The Abyssinians (Habesha highlanders) were also noted as having actively hunted the Shanqella during the 19th century.[7] Following the abolition of the slave trade in the 1940s, the freed Shanqella and barya were typically employed as unskilled labour.[6]
Traditionally, racism against perceived barya transcended class and remained in effect regardless of social position or parentage.[8] Although other populations in Ethiopia also faced varying degrees of discrimination, little of that adversity was by contrast on account of racial differences. It was instead more typically rooted in disparities in class and competition for economic status. The Oromo and Gurage were thus, for example, not considered by the highlander groups as being racially barya, owing to their similar physical features and common Afro-Asiatic ancestry.>
>>398580
source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Ethiopia#Legacy
Slave girl in Mali
>>398591
No one ever denied this and it doesn't justify colonisation
Everyone cries about slavery in America but fail to realize that the slaves that got sent over were already slaves to the tribes the whites bought them from.
If anything at least their great great ... grand children got a better shake at life than those who stayed behind.
>>398594
shit I forgot photo lel
>>398591
>source
>wikipedia
You expect me to eat that?
>>398596
>and it doesn't justify colonisation
>implying colonialism requires any justification
Protip: it doesn't.
/Pol/ bait
>>398607
Return to the politics board please
>>398610
I've never been to /pol/.
History doesn't require justification.
>>398611
What the fug are you trying to say?
>>398611
> As long as it happen in the past it's ok.
Really m8, do you want to go full retard on /his/ of all places?
>>398598
If you buy heroin and get caught who gets in trouble you, your dealer, or both?
>>398613
You too.
>>398619
I was saying that colonialism was bad and slavery existing in Africa before doesn't justify it
>>398616
Listen you dumb cunt, we only look at history in a purportedly topically-immediate manner. What does that mean? We don't vilify ancient and medieval peoples and civilizations, even those that clearly committed crimes against humanity get, at worst, a stereotypical villain reception in history. I never said 'it's okay', I said it doesn't require justification, and it doesn't. It cannot be justified, especially after the immediate beneficiaries who started it are long dead. That doesn't make it okay. Doesn't make it anything but history done by people whose actions are entirely out of the control of the people alive today.
W W K N' SH
>>398631
tru tru
>>398631
Retarded desu. We look at history and analyse it, we apply our morals (lets not turn this into a debate on moral realism mr pseudo philosopher), but we don't allow our judgments or morals to get in use way of objective facts, events, situations etc. we keep the truth the truth.
Finding justification is important in analysing history.
Also does your argument apply to the holocaust? Civil rights movements? Rwandan genocide? Are we not allowed to find, explore and take into consideration, current, and historic justification simply because you have this retarded idea that since it's history you can't justify it?
>>398625
>colonialism was bad
Relative, and a huge generalization.
Colonialism in and of itself was not bad, many of the things that it entailed were bad for the people who had it inflicted onto them.
>slavery existing in Africa before doesn't justify it
It doesn't need to be justified.
Slavery existing in Africa beforehand puts into context that slavery in and of itself is not evil a historical event as its purported to be.
What was bad about colonial slavery were the particularly horrid, well-recorded conditions that Europeans put their slaves under.
But they made a profit, although inefficiently, and that was all the justification the detached earners of that profit needed.
The point of saying that slavery has been an almost worldwide practice throughout history is to show that the practice in itself was, at the time, perfectly justified.
>>398649
>Also does your argument apply to the holocaust? Civil rights movements? Rwandan genocide?
Clearly it does, because those are all incredibly topically-immediate, compared to other comparable, historical events that do not come under nearly the same scrutiny because they happened long ago.
>historic justification
This is ambiguous. A historic justification for colonialism could be as simple as it was: the colonizers got rich and powerful.
Moral justifications, the implied justification type brought up in this thread, are entirely different. Because they imply a level of responsibility by those today born of the perpetrators. Which is quite irrational.
>>398617
How does that relate?
Why do Stormshits act like Africans enslaving other Africans is some sort of dark forbidden arcane knowledge that only they are privy to?
The funny thing about this is that it is a further confirmation of Marxism. Marx held that all human societies begin with primitive communalism, move onto the slave system, then feudalism, then capitalism, then obviously socialism and communism.
In Africa, many communities were still in the primitive-communal stage, some were in the slave stage, and a few were in transition from slavery to feudalism. Ethiopia had the most advanced system of feudalism on the continent.
>>398693
wasn't that theory debunked
and cant slave systems exist in any kind of society with any government system
>>398686
something something degenerates something something cultural marxism
STOP OPPRESSING WHITE PEOPLE
MUH WHITE GENODICE
>>398598
>Everyone
No. Everyone on this board already knows that. So how about you stop bitching about your stupid friends to us.
Niggers with nigger slaves is news?
>>398907
Yes. The entire Marxist theory of history is completely bunk. Real life isn't a video game where you go along stages of progress until you reach the "end point" of history.
For example, Indians in almost every corner of North America practiced slavery, despite still largely being hunter gatherers.
>>398598
Stop projecting the retardness that surrounds your home into other places.
>>398580
>purer
wat
>>399178
That was an unexpected kek.
>>398580
>race
>purer nilotic
Stop fucking use term race will you? It's slavery by one ethnicity against other ethnicities.
>>398686
Because the average person doens't know...?
>>399233
Whatever, same shit.
>>399237
What is the average person?
You know, where I live the average person doesnt give a flaying fuck about slavery.
While this board seems to think that everyday everyone is talking about black related slavery.
>>399237
You're on a fucking history board. People here are interested in history, and anyone with even the slightest understanding of history knows that slavery existed in Africa and just about everywhere else on Earth. The kind of people who don't know that are the same kind of people who think that Columbus discovered the world was round; children and people who don't care about history. If the existence of slavery in Africa before the Atlantic trade is some great surprise to you, then that's probably because you fall under one of those two categories.
>>399237
Are you the kind of guy who would dash into a conference on health and constantly remind people that training is healthy? Because that's basically what you're doing.
>>399282
I know, but that guy isn't aware of that it seems lol.
>>399290
>afrocentric revisionism and shit
Just as as shit as the eurocentric nonsense of the last few centuries?
>>399282
You would surely do that if the conference had a keynote speaker questioning whether training was really good for your health.
>>399302
Yes.
>>399304
So /his/ is full of people claiming that African's never enslaved each other?
>>398686
Because the dominant narrative in mass media is that only white people were so evil as to enslave people(despite the fact that white people ended up being the people who worked hard to abolish slavery) and black people in Africa lived in harmony as kingz and shit.
>>399319
Not much, but I still don't understand your point. You really need to improve your interpretation skill, my first answer was simply for the reason the stormshits act like that.
>>399342
>in mass media only white people are so evil as to enslave people
This IS after a century of mass media showing all other races as evil or retarded.
>despite the fact that white people ended up being the people who worked hard to abolish slavery
Like Mohammed!
>>398580
this isn't an excuplatory device for european and american slavery.
what does represent is an amazing device to troll black lolcows who turn to islam as a liberation theology from da ebil whyte man.
lols milked from black extremists are a slightly different flavour of salty, but just as delicious.
>>399366
>This IS after a century of mass media showing all other races as evil or retarded.
>Other bad shit happened so it's ok for us to literally lie about the historical record.
>capitalizing "IS" in the middle of your sentence to make an emotional statement.
>Muhammed
>Implying that Arabs weren't the main perpetrators of the African slave trade and literally fought against Western efforts to abolish slavery.
>Ignoring that the US fought an incredibly bloody civil war over slavery and that the Brits expended plenty of blood and treasure to end slavery as well.
I want Reddit to go and stay go.
>>398580
Somalis also would enslave Bantus and slavery didn't get abolished in Somalia until the Italians abolished it.
Everywhere you go worldwide the lighter skinned group is the ruling, elite class
Why could that be /his/
>>399215
>For example, Indians in almost every corner of North America practiced slavery, despite still largely being hunter gatherers.
And the Confederacy was obviously a good deal more advanced than 17th century Native Americans, but that doesn't somehow debunk Marxism.
>>399672
>Why could that be /his/
depends on where you're talking about.
>>399215
Hey wanna know a guy that wrote on the topic of aboriginal slavery practices
Friedrich Engels
>>398580
Jesus, those tits look absolutely phenomenal.
>>398610
>politics
