Is multiculturalism beneficial in the long run? Was multi culture beneficial in USA?
Or is diversity useless?
I'm talking about culturally, socially, economically and genetically, also long-term and short-term.
>>377604
>multiculturalism
is shit
you can learn from other cultures without losing your identity
but since this isn't /int/ i wonder how long will take until some euro shitposter replies "America has no culture KEK"
There's no cultural diversity in the US, does the term melting pot ring a bell? Even the blackest ghetto nigs speak English and are Christians, and new immigrants are pressured pretty hard into assimilating into Americans, the muh heritagers you see on the internet are just indulging in a roleplaying hobby.
Multiracial =/= multicultural, by the way.
>>377624
>Even the blackest ghetto nigs speak English and are Christians
m-muh Nation!
>>377624
>Multiracial =/= multicultural
also true
>>377627
is there something wrong with loving your Nation, you stateless commie pinko bastard?
the fact is simple:
we all wear the same jersey, we all push towards the same goal = we are all in the same team
if everyone is allowed to do whatever they want, there's no team, there's chaos and we're weak against others' attack
>but why would anyone attack us? we should strive for peace!
you tell that to THEM
>>377620
If you manage to lose your identity then you weren't really close to your culture anyways.
>>377657
>we all wear the same jersey, we all push towards the same goal = we are all in the same team
Lol no.
>>377657
He was probably referring to the Nation of Islam
>>377698
... USA is fucked. you had it coming
>>377693
and why this happens? explain it for the benefit of the thread
question goes to everyone
>>377604
Nope, au contrary if you see history is a good cause of a fuckton of civil wars and conflict in general.
>>377604
>Is multiculturalism beneficial in the long run?
The answer to this question is different in literally every single society that has tried it. It also depends on how long 'multiculturalism' has been a factor.
Was multi culture beneficial in USA?
>>377624 is pretty much correct, the multiple 'cultures' within the USA are mostly geography and class based.
>>377604
there isn't a fucking alternative to it. people interacting means they become more like eachother and there is no way to even begin to do anything about it.
the only hope to do anything is full retard isolationism and you can ask the japs how that worked out for them.
it's the perfect /pol/ boogeyman because it isn't being enforced in any way and can't be opposed any other way than by bitching on the internet.
>>377657
There is no such thing as an American Nation desu.
Country, yes. Nation no.
>>377783
>A nation is a large group of people who share a common language, culture, ethnicity, descent, or history
The first two apply to Americans, so I'd say we have ourselves a nation.
>>377802
>ethnicity
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""culture""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
The first one only applies to Amerishits. The rest doesnt.
>>377802
>Culture.
>>377809
>America doesn't have a culture
When will this meme die? I'm not even American but they obviously do have culture.
>inb4 b-but they just copied Europe
Yeah and Rome copied Greece, and the Franks copied Rome. Doesn't make them uncultured.
>>377818
>but they obviously do have culture
many states have a culture of their own
THAT's what gets confused for "American culture" abroad. it isn't. newyorkers don't wear leather boots and cowboy hats, cascadians aren't christian fundamentalists, minnesotans call coke "pop"... hell, black americans don't even speak the King's english but """ebonex"""
It's an offshoot of relativism, is incoherent and thus worthless.
>>377880
>US States
>Culture
Jesus fucking Christ
>>377604
99% of novelty in the world is combinations of things that already exist. Multiculturalism allows a group to vastly increase the number of possible combinations they can try, yielding an adaptivity advantage. On the other hand, this increases social complexity combinatorially (ie exponentially), which puts strain on the weak-minded.
>>377896
>Culture: A systematic range of behaviors passed down generationally via socialization.
Yeap
Some parts of the US weren't settled until the 19th century so your obviously not going to have as long a historical narrative as you'd have in say Europe or Asia.
>Using American English on a Assamese messageboard
The whole world has been flooded with American media, fashion, values, etc. and thus culture since the end of the cold war ,why the hell do you think lefties in previously homogeneous countries like Sweden are importing refugees if but to ape the US.
Your a fish who doesn't realize he's wet American culture is all around you.
>>378026
>Your a fish who doesn't realize he's wet American culture is all around you
So is American culture pleb culture?
>>378037
>>378026
media is products, not culture
culture might be included inside the product, unless it's some postmodernism shit. or moe
usually "american culture" was being sold inside those movies, music and clothing, but not most of the time. i think that http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048340/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 shows texan culture for example
Rome was multicultural from the start and lasted over two thousand years, so it can't be the civilization-ending travesty you people make it out to be.
>>377711
Because you were born into it but you never initiated into it.
It's like converted folk compared to born in religions folk.
The former had to seek out their new religion and it's intricacies and rules, every nook and cranny and they were drawn to it. These folk are much more dedicated to their faith.
Born in religions were born to the religion, it's been a part of their lives but they've never lived without it. To use a war analogy they've never truly experienced peace because they've never felt the loss of war.
>>377657
>pinko
wew it's like I'm really in the 1950s
>>377896
>United States States
>>377604
It's neither beneficial or detrimental, and also both beneficial and detrimental. The answer is that there is no answer, because it depends on which cultures you're talking about and when.
Some multicultural states were extremely successful, some were not. Some mono-culture states were extremely successful, some were not.
>>377896
regional cultures are definitely a thing in the us,
this is why we are referred to as "the melting pot"
SAY
IT
WITH
ME
>MULTICULTURAL
>>377604
No, having a society with multiple cultures means a society in which people will find it very hard to get along politically.
The only means by which other cultures can form a nation together with the natives is by assimilation, and then it's no longer multicultural, just multiracial.
Individualism is the only "culture" a America has.
idk the answer to the question man, but if you argue against it, odds are some lefty will give you the worst argument of all time: "BUT U LIKE EATING MEXICAN AND CHINESE FOOD DONT U DONT U HAHA WHITE FOOD IS SO BLAND U RACIST"
>>377880
>regional variation
>not a completely normal part of a nation
>>377604
Multiculturalism needs divisions in order to exist, without it, it's just monoculture. That's why America is called the "melting pot".
