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Why did Protestantism take off in the Germanic world but no where
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Why did Protestantism take off in the Germanic world but no where else?
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Probably because of the HRE.

The sale of indulgences was probably very focused in Germany.
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Because Germanics are no-fun-allowed autists.
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Lots of Germanic kings who didn't want to be ruled by the pope or anyone else?
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All of the princes wanted to give a big fuck you to the Hapsburgers.
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I believe the Vatican took tithes. By switching to Protestantism germanic kings could keep the tithes for themselves to fund their wars.
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Cardinal Vallah and Luther constituted the one-two punch in the 1500s that destroyed both Catholic Credibility and power. The nobles of Europe shut them down after that, removed all their authority, booted them out of their realms and consigned them to their shame - if they ever had any.
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>>374478
Swarthy Southerners and Slavs are degenerates and score low on IQ tests.

Memes aside, political conflict with Rome, distance from Rome, and more individualistic cultures.
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Why is there Tibetan Buddhism in Russia and Protestantism in Hungary and Romania? Are the Catholics in Romania, Ukraine, Lebanon, and Albania Uniates?
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No state strong enough to root out the heretics.
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cause of statemaking, yo

The timing was too good for the princes to pass up the oppurtunity for the state to incorporate the church and its role in society.
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>>374557
This is a major one. This was the perfect opportunity for the many princes of Germany to I crease their own power. The Reformation had good points, but it only succeeded because of the greed of men. Luther would like if he saw what his work did.
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>>374485
The sale of indulgences is a myth
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>>374756
The medieval Western church came up with the idea of Purgatory, something not found in the Bible or in Orthodox belief I think,a kind of cleansing room for those destined for Heaven but not yet quite clean enough.

Initially indulgences were only granted through Good Works such as the killing of heathens during the Crusades (or more specifically, fighting to make Jerusalem a Christian city again). If a person died in battle and had no opportunity to confess, then an indulgence would ensure that salvation was still possible.

Moving on, the church then came up with the idea that an infinte amount of Good Works had been left for the human race by Christ, like credit which could be sold to anybody with the cash to pay for them. A kind of insurance against purgatory if you died without confession or simply forgot to confess something. Indulgences could even be bought on behalf of people who had already died.

Luther did see a lot of corruption in this but his main gripe was with the basic idea that an individual even needed a priest or the church as a mediator for them to make peace with God. He believed that salvation or "grace" was a private matter between God and the person, no mediator should be necessary and thus by extension, no indulgences.
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>>374792
Your post is a historically illiterate jumble of nonsense.
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>>374756
>>374756
>The sale of indulgences is a myth

Filthy heretic papist detected.
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>>374645
There's Tibetan Buddhism in Russia because after the fall of the USSR some Tibetan Buddhist decided that specific part of Russia is prime real estate to share his religion.

There's protestants in Romania and Hungary because the Turks occupied parts of it around the time of the reformation, so it spread a little because the reformation naturally appealed to some people but it didn't really take off because there weren't any protestant nobles enforcing it.

>Are the Catholics in Romania, Ukraine, Lebanon, and Albania Uniates
No.
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>>374756
What the fuck. They still exist even if they today only are "paid" in good deeds and aren't as forgiving as they used to be when you could pay cold hard cash for them.
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>>374645
The Buddhists are the Kalmyk people who settled in Russia in 17th century. The majority of Hungarians were Protestants in the 16th century, but almost all were later converted back by the Counter-Reformation. The Catholics in Romania, Ukraine and Lebanon are indeed mostly Uniates (though in Lebanon they don`t consider themselves such). In Albania however they are just Roman Catholics.
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>>374645
And don`t listen to this >>374862 retard.
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>>374645
And don`t listen to this >>374925 retard.
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>>374478
>but no where else?
it took off in Bohemia in a big way
although it also crashed there after some time and a thing called the 30yearswar and catholization
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>>374938
It also took off in France massively to the point they had a protestant king and a massive civil war that ended with the protestants getting shoah'd.
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The many printing presses in Germany allowed Martin Luthers and John Calvins ideas to spread like wildfire
Also probs HRE
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The region of Hungary which now belongs to Slovakia used to be cca 95% Lutheran at one point before the Habsburgs catholicized the fuck out of it. And they did the same in Bohemia in fact after the 30 years war.

So in reality it was the Germans who STOPPED the spread of protestantism, 2 centuries after another German created it.
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>>374635
>and Slavs

A Slav pretty much invented protestsntism.
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>The total absence of protestants in former Prussia.

LIBERATED.COM
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>>374478

France and Spain actually had influence over the Church. They did not need to create a new National Church to controll it.
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>but no where else?
It was also accepted and kinda big in PLC for a time.

Also, the spread of protestantism wasn't always equally paralleled in all the ranks of a society. For example, I can speak for Livonia, one of the very first areas where reformation spread and took root in, especially the hanseatic cities of the land. The german elite was quicker to accept it has it fielded benefites for the cities and statelets of the land. Still, the whole 16th century is a messy endeavor with the question of the proper faith up in the air and the proverbial coin, as it were, could have still landed on either side.
The peasantry, however, had by then become and stayed staunch catholics - which is what Russow means by describing extensive 'heathen practices' in the land. Protestantism started only taking over in the 17th century and consolidated probably only in the 18th century thanks to the influence of the movement of Herrnhuter Brüdergemeinde - whatever it may be called in english. By the 19th century Estonians were as stuanchly protestant as they had once been catholic.
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Hungary was over 90% reformated before Habsburg counterreformation, and is still 30% to day.
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>tibetan buddhism in russia
Weird
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>>374478

Because they were in cahoots with kebab agains all christianity.
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>>374942
>massively
Technically true, but those masses were still a minority, around 10% at their peak.
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>>374478

>Buddhism out of fucking nowhere

Why senpai?
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It's really terribly simple.

What is Protestantism?
It's the religion of butthurt about Catholicism.

Who has the most reason to be butthurt at Catholicism?
The places that felt the most left out by the Catholic world.

Germans never truly belonged, they were always kind of outside the West, they didn't really understand it or identify with it, and ended up resenting it. Probably something to do with never being Roman.
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>>376410
Because buddhists didn't try conquering the world like Christians and Muslims did. Also their memes weren't as dank as Abrahamic memes.
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>>376430

Smdh desu
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>>376410
Buddhist Kalmyks migrated from western Mongolia in XVIth century and settled in what is now Russia.
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>>374478
Rest of Europe doesn't have the work ethic it take to be a Protestant.
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>>374478
Those countries benefited from independence from the vatican, while the catholic ones benefited from the vatican. Or something like that. It really all depended on what the leaders of the country wanted, the people who disagreed where converted or killed.
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>>374645
>Are the Catholics in Romania, Ukraine, Lebanon, and Albania Uniates?
>Lebanon
The Maronite church was isolated from the rest of Christendom after the muslim conquests, but during crusades, they were eager to rejoin. Then they became part of the Ottoman empire, but had their own college in Rome and enjoyed protection from the French crown.
So while they have some idiosynchrasies, they've basically been in union with Rome for a thousand years.
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>>374645
The Catholics and Protestants in Romania are Hungarians. The Catholics in Ukraine are Uniates.
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Because Latins, Slavs and Hellenics are known for not being filthy heretics.
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>>374645
The tibetan buddhist people are the kalmyk or kalmuk people. They're literal mongols.
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>>374478
Actual powerful monarchies like Spain or France didn't need to invent a new religion because they were actually strong enough to handle the pulse with the Pope. Charles V got problems with the pope? "Accidentaly" sacks Rome. Henry VIII has problems with the pope? Cannot sack Rome so he invents his own religion with blackjack and hookers.
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>>374478
A more interesting question would be who the fuck are those Volga Buddhists?
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>>374478
Because French, Mediterraneans, and Slavs are not as intelligent as Anglo-Saxons and Northern Europeans.

/truth
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>>377865

Americans sure feel the need to classify everyone accordiong to something.
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>>377865
is that why both the bohemians and the french had massive protestant movements
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>>374478
>Tibetan Buddhism
wat
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>>377865
A Frenchman (Calvin) and a Slav (Hus) more or less much invented protestantism along with Luther.

Not even mentioning that Anglicanism isn't even real protestantism, at least initially it was just catholicism with a king in the place of the pope.

Also Mormons are overwhelmingly Anglo, see pic. Yet according to your picture they're dumber than catholics.
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>>377926
>irish
>anglo
choose one
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>>377935
>I'm color blind and retarded
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>>376856
>latins
Calvin
Servetus
Savonarola
Viret
Paleario

>Slavs
Hus
Jerome of Prague
Tranovsky
Laski
Flacius
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>>376410
>>377915
Mongols leftover in Russia for centuries.
Its pretty cool to think about actually.
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>>378306
Russians themselves are Mongol leftovers.
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Good question. People had been discussing the problems with the church centuries before. Since the 13th century.

Id say that by then it had become politically expedient for the rulers of states within the weak hre to use religious freedom as a convenient way to take over the lands of the church and to gain more power for themselves. Printing technology was also invented in Germany and had been adopted most widely there.
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>>376143
It was mainly the merchant class who were Calvinists.
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