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The Massagetae shared their wives, the pre-islamic arabs used to let their wives get pregnant by a higher status male for eugenic reasons, assyrian women were obliged to prostitute themselves at least once in their lifetime and minoan women wore clothes that let their breasts visible.

What were the most sexually deviant cultures /his/ ?
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In Tibet women marry their husband, but also their husband's father.

Literally getting cvcked by your father. But you get to have the sloppy seconds when pops kicks it and you marry your mom.
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>>364858
>In Tibet women marry their husband, but also their husband's father.

They also could have multiple husbands.

Usually families with too many sons get one wife to share among their sons.
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>>364848
>the pre-islamic arabs used to let their wives get pregnant by a higher status male for eugenic reasons

Sauce?
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>>364848
>assyrian women were obliged to prostitute themselves at least once in their lifetime

Absolutely haram
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>>364848
None you have to judge a culture by their own standards raither then modern ones otherwise you foul your study with bias and skew the information unfairly by creating an unintended naritave it's base revisionism. If any thing our culture is the deviant one with moralizing laws prohibiting types of sex acts , no open prostution, the laws against marrying teenagers, and laws enforcing monogomany, theese things have only been around for little more than a century. Compared to the 1000's of years.We didn't have them
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>>364903

Found it here.

>http://www.mwlusa.org/topics/history/herstory.html

They use the term wife-lending.

>>364928

>The foulest Babylonian custom is that which compels every woman of the land to sit in the temple of Aphrodite and have intercourse with some stranger at least once in her life. Many women who are rich and proud and disdain to mingle with the rest, drive to the temple in covered carriages drawn by teams, and stand there with a great retinue of attendants. But most sit down in the sacred plot of Aphrodite, with crowns of cord on their heads; there is a great multitude of women coming and going; passages marked by line run every way through the crowd, by which the men pass and make their choice. Once a woman has taken her place there, she does not go away to her home before some stranger has cast money into her lap, and had intercourse with her outside the temple; but while he casts the money, he must say, “I invite you in the name of Mylitta” (that is the Assyrian name for Aphrodite). It does not matter what sum the money is; the woman will never refuse, for that would be a sin, the money being by this act made sacred. So she follows the first man who casts it and rejects no one. After their intercourse, having discharged her sacred duty to the goddess, she goes away to her home; and thereafter there is no bribe however great that will get her. So then the women that are fair and tall are soon free to depart, but the uncomely have long to wait because they cannot fulfil the law; for some of them remain for three years, or four. There is a custom like this in some parts of Cyprus.

Based Herodotus. Or maybe he made up all these sexual deviant traits in other cultures he didn't like.
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>>364848
In the province of Yunnan in China, there is a small tribe of people called the Musuo. They are an entirely matriarchal society, and one of the few examples of a real, surviving matriarchal society.

They had no marriage like agricultural patriarchal civilizations. Instead they have this concept roughly translated as "walking marriages". When a Musuo woman begins puberty, her family will be a separate wooden house for her. She will sleep in the new house on her own. This is a sign that she is now old enough to choose her mate and become a woman. So she would go out and select any young man she fancies as her mate, take him back to her house and they would have sex. But by morning, the man would have to walk back to his own house, and does not stay with the woman.

Now once a Musuo woman begins her sex life, she can choose to either have one or two mates similar to a marriage partner in agricultural patriarchal societies, or she can and in many cases there are Musuo women who remain alone for the rest of their life, just sleeping with all kinds of different strange men up until they are too old or dead.
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>>364947
Fuck islam and fuck christianity, all the cool traditions that could get my dick wet were pagan.
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>>364969
>her family will be a separate wooden house for her.

*her family will build

Fucking typos
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>>364969
>>364974
>>364848
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosuo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosuo_women
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The Greek's culture.
Mainly legalizing pederasty and fucking on the street.
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>>364947
Herodotus is an awful historian/anthropologist.

But a great fucking writer. He should have written erotic novels.
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>>365010

Yeah, the details about how rich stuck up assyrian women that were forced to fuck some stranger for whatever price sounds like it was taken out of some erotic novel.
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>>364939
Thanks Foucault
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>>365152
>>>/r9k/
bet you worship Franco or pinochet
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>>364848

>higher status means better genes

I don't even.
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>>365385

Thanks for sharing I guess.
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>>364972
>all the cool traditions that could get my dick wet were pagan.

You do know prostitution is legal in several European countries right?
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>>365614
>tfw you can't fuck your childhood crush against her will during her mandatory prostitution phase.
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>>365385
can someone tell me how to report shitposts?
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Currently living in a small rural town in Argentina. The sexual attitudes here are something else:
-Everyone's obsessed with kekholding. 4chan actually feels conservative with their kek obsession after living here a couple months.
-Almost everyone cheats on each other as well. You get the impression that everyone's fucked everyone else here at least once
-People here will carry pictures of porn with "funny" captions (they really aren't) and show them to friends, people they work with, and strangers. It's normal at a dinner party for someone to pass around a picture of a naked chick or someone getting a blowjob.
-Fags are even more obnoxious here than in the anglosphere and everyone hates them
-If a guy and a girl go out in public together alone it's assumed they're fucking
-Women here will jump into bed at the drop of a hat, while at the same time insisting that all the other girls in the town are whores while she's different
-Children aren't seen as sexually different than adults, girls are considered fair game as soon as they grow tits. 30 year old guys can talk about wanting to fuck a 12 year old (to be fair she is a mynx) and no one will bat an eye

Really weird sexual culture here.
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>>365988
>implying those aren't genuinely interesting topics
Also, I somehow doubt you'd be any happier if all the women flooded into prussian military history (though I know some who are into that), because they still wouldn't touch you.
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>>366012

Sounds like normal south america to me.
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>>366012
Got to get a plane ticket for Argentina :^)
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>>366054
It gets annoying when people joke about you being kekholded every time your girlfriend even talks to another guy.
Better to live in a "sexually conservative" culture where everyone isn't insecure and macho imo
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>>364947
I'm pretty sure that historians accept that sacred prostitution was a thing in ancient mesopotamia.

Herodotus may have made some shit up to make the story more interesting or because he was lied by unreliable sources, though.
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>>364969
Where do men live? Mom's house?
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>>366012
Must be hell for a beta t.b.h.
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>>364848

>ywn live in a culture where the defining fashion for women are topless robes and long curly black hair
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>>365988
One I know studies African history, other Indian and the other Russian and East European.
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>>366065
It's just as bad though.
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>>366065
>Better to live in a "sexually conservative" culture where everyone isn't insecure and macho imo
>implying it isn't insecure and machi in a different way
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>>366012
Which town nigger?
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>>366139
is that assyrian?
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>>366165
It's not though. I've lived in my fair share of different countries and dated women women from all over the world and here is by far the most sex obsessed
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>>366268
WHICH
TOWN
IS
IT
NIGGER
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>>366012
>-Women here will jump into bed at the drop of a hat

I hear people say this about exotic women all the time but how true is this?

Have you gotten your autistic ass laid yet?
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>>366392
>it's difficult to have sex

How's highschool going for you?
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>>366221
Minoan
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>>366479
you do know that 4chan is a hotbed for betavirgins dont you?
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>>365614
Little different than a religious rite that required you to fuck random people once in your life in a sex temple. Plus
>modern europe
>christian
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>>364848
Mesopotamians. They worshiped a dominatrix who's priestesses were hookers. Ishtar was basically a real version of slaanesh.
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>>369120
Modern patriarchal societies maybe...

Feminism did a lot of damage
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>>368797
Oh God this is such a pathetic post.

>>366324
He ain't answering
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>>364969
>They are an entirely matriarchal society
>entirely

Whilst there are certain elements of matriarchy, overall political power lies largely in the hands of men.

It would seem that a lot of studies tend to overlook that Mosuo aristocracy is/was patriarchal, with only the lower classes exhibiting matriarchal practices.
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>>365728
>go to the temple to have sex with crush during mandatory prostitution phase
>reach into pocket to find some coins
>just before you throw it into her lap, Chadious of house Thundercock, pushes you aside and throws a big bag of coins to her.
>He takes her away from the temple and fucks her brains out.
>Your crush is relieved of her debt and has the privilege that Chadious had taken her.
>9 months later she delivers his baby.
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>>369834
>projecting this hard
again, I'm not saying that you're in any way inferior to anyone just because women don't find you attractive. If anything, you're inferior because you take this as an excuse for being a complete retard.
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>>364947
That sacred prostitution thing was rampant at many places, not just Babylon according to Robert greves.
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>>370498
*Graves
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>>366479
Some people just lack game.
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>>366030
>implying those aren't genuinely interesting topics
They're not. They're bullshit topics that yield bullshit degrees studied at universities that should have never allowed such ruinous ideas through the door. Such thought permeates and is degrading our educational institutions and society.
Feminist bullshit belongs in the trash.
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>>371529
Those aren't ideas, or ideologies, they are fields of historical study, and as such perfectly legitimate.
And even if these fields are probably attractive to feminists, studying them is not itself a feminist act.
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>>369120
At least they get laid more in the matriarchal ones, and I'm sure there are no resentful neckbeard basement dwellers.
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>>373143
There's not neckbeard basement dwellers because there are no basements, just huts in trees. And of course you don't get laid more? You get laid exactly the same than now, be it a lot or not, or are you impliying women are forced to fuck now and don't choose partners anyways?
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>>364947
Thats pretty hot.

Could you buy the girls out?
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>>373162
But in places where prostitution was thing you could easily just a fuck a woman for some coin.
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>>368797
>this post
kek
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>>373162
I'm saying that out outdated views on sex causes conflict, misery and resentment, and is the primary cause for sexist neckbeards like
>>368797
And in this matriarchal society that sexual tension and frustration doesn't exist because the women fuck the men and the men are (relatively) chilled out, at least as much as you can be in authoritarian China, who btw are doing their best to stamp out this custom.
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>>373237
>And in this matriarchal society that sexual tension and frustration doesn't exist because the women fuck the men and the men are (relatively) chilled out, at least as much as you can be in authoritarian China, who btw are doing their best to stamp out this custom.

No this is again, Yellow Peril fearmongering bullshit.

The Chinese government has not tried to stamp out any of these customs since Mao died, and give ethnic minorities are allowed more lenience on their culture. For example, some ethnic minorities are allowed to carry guns and knives in public because it's their culture.

The reason for the decline of this custom is because Mosuo women are getting sick and tired of horny sleazy tourists coming to their villages and asking for one night stands/being sexually harassed.
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>>371529
Just because it's not your perspective or relating to your gender/race/class does not mean it isn't interesting or have any importance in history. The same could be said for the history of extinct species. "Why should we care? They're all dead anyway." It's the fact that a group of the population finds the subject an important area to study and that they believe it could have affected the present day.
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>>373853
Not him but usually by studying feminist crap like this they only end up indoctrinated up to tits. It's like how nationalists view the entire history as an ethnic/racial struggle, marxists as a class struggle and feminists as a struggle of women against the patriarchy. 19th century plagued the academia with such immense amount of horseshit we still can't get rid of it.

Studying the "history of rape" has as much validity in my book as studying "scientific communism." It's indoctrination classes and not real education.
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>>364947
>... but the uncomely have long to wait because they cannot fulfil the law; for some of them remain for three years, or four.
My life...
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>>373896
But it is valid.
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>>374158
not when the feminists are biased themselves and refuse to acknowledge it.
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>>373896
>Studying the "history of rape" has as much validity in my book as studying "scientific communism."
Are you saying that rape is something that only works in theory, but never in practice? Are you saying that rape is not a historical phenomenon? Are you saying you're too retarded to be allowed to breathe?
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>>374310
The people who make rape into their main topic of study tend to be mentally ill women with orange and blue hair who don't care about actual history and just want to carve out a space for themselves on the victim bandwagon that's so popular these days. theyre the same sort of people who get mad at mansa musa for not starting a pan-black movement in the middle ages. they simply dont understand the wider context of what they're studying and dont care to understand because they're ideologues first and historians never
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>>374652
Wut?
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>>374158
What is valid?
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>>374652


>>374728
their point of view must be listened to, according to him
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>>374652
{{cn}}

>>375280
Validity is entirely about disciplinarity.


If ANY of you don't like it, fuck off to >>>/x/
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>>365988
Me and my study buddy are all about the medieval period. For our seminar, the class picked classics as the focus so we both did Sparta. We produced complimentary reports on the male and female aspects of that civilization soooo.... no.

You're talking out of your ass and you need to go back to /r9k/
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>>373896
>>366030
Alright. If you guys haven't figured it out, you're talking to a /pol/nigger.
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>>375660
>using their own vocab to insult them
>implicitly implying that their viewpoint on race is right, even when you explicitly disagree with them
learn2subtleexpressionofidiology
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>>375659
Jesus, you even type like an insufferable bitch.
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>>375659
m'lady, do you suffer from brain damage? Even if he's wrong in the generalisation, you and your study buddies being exceptions from the norm doesn't invalidate his claim.
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>>375823
kek that pic is gold
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>>375802
Welcome to four chan. Try and avoid the kiddy porn.

>>375823
Cry harder, faggot.
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>>375660
No shit, what's your point?
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>>374652
>here, let me make wild conjectures about the students of an academic subject that hardly even exists
Had there been semonars on rape at my uni, you bet I'd have taken them, not because of ideological commitment, but because historical violence is one of those things I really profoundly enjoy studying.
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>>364969
I know I'm late to this party, but it's worth noting that men cannot own cattle and as such cannot own property or perform any major economic role. They live with their mother's until they die (when they move in with their sisters) and flit around from woman to woman never working.

They also have an enormous historic problem with drugs, alcohol, and crime. 50% of the populace being idle mistreated men is a recipe for disaster.

I've also talked with several Chinese and apparently there's a big problem with Mosuo women running off to marry Han men so they can be housewives, but that could just be "RORORORORO HAN STRONK".
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>>370329
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>>375965
>Mosuo men
>never working
This is a more recent development, as men traditionally spent a lot of time away from their villages as traders.

With the decline of caravan trade, so to their role evaporated.

Also, as has been pointed out the Mosuo are not a matriarchal society (or at least not in the strict way that a lot of commentators would seem to like).
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>>375965
If it wasn't for the rest of the post, the first line sounds like an awesome society desu.
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>>366012
BOLIVIANOOOOOO
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Wowee. I wonder what would happen if some of you spent just a bit of your time studying exercise programs and a proper diet then consistently implemented it for a year. Maybe get outside your comfort zone and join some clubs/volunteered to meet people with similar interests.

You'd probably gain some self confidence and be a little less bitter.
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>>364848
>the pre-islamic arabs used to let their wives get pregnant by a higher status male for eugenic reasons
That's the most disgusting thing I've ever read and I'm 99% sure it's wrong.

Also to add to your list, some arab traveler noted how the early slavs preferred sexually experienced women and would think there is something wrong with her if a girl is a virgin.
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There's a reason why women were opressed for 10.000s of years. And that's not because the extra work connected to keeping them down was so fun.
It was to ensure a stable society ruled by the iron fist of logic.
Women are decieving creatures. They pretend to be human on the outside, but inside they are vile, instinct driven creatures with everchanging agendas.
A woman might feel like A in the morning and like B in the evening. For her there is no disconnect here. After all her feelings dictate her reality.
Society is so fucked, because weak-willed beta faggots have empowered women. They basically unsealed the devil by allowing women to vote and to freely decide about their reproductive organs.

Women are what will bring our society to it's knees. Unless women are properly enslaved for the next 100 or so years our society will be a goner.
Islam is also no solution, becuase it's just the next system of irrational crazy rules. If islam will conquer europe the people enforcing it's retarded rules first and foremost will be females.

Women have no goals, no dreams and no ambitions other than to get fucked by as many men as possible.
If something breaks a woman will ignore it and just accept that it's broken, as long as it's broken for everyone else too.
If women had their way we'd still be living in the caves and competing for pussy with axes and clubs as long as females get enough sparkly stones and furs.

The historic mythological image of the succubbus is no coincidence.
Women tie and bind men's creative and driving force.

In our society the highest conquest is not space, exploration new frontiers but floppy, infertile (thanks for the pill jews) vagina.

Chasing women has basically become a skinnerbox for the modern male. In the past millenia, chasing a woman and fucking her had the result of offspring. Now that women are infertile on purpose thanks to the pill, that skinnerbox system has become an endless loop, triggering the mating-instinct of males over and over
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>>376873
>10.000 years
>ruled by the iron fist of logic
That's not how I remember it, somehow.
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>>376873
milo yiannopoulos pls go
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>>376873
Nice post Virgin.
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>>376873
4chan's autistic alarmism makes it really hard to tell which things they talk about you should actually be concerned about
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>>364858
Pretty sure women just marry into the whole family.

Its a matrimonial line too from what I understood.
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>>376889
>That's not how I remember it, somehow.

Oh, another immortal, at last!
How are you, pal?

Last century was insane, if you ask me.
I hope the 21th will be less... bloody, if you know what I mean.
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>>376873

This.
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>>376873
nice pasta
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>>378221
Then what about incubus. It's a crock of shit appealing to the emotions of those who have not put effort into growing socially and blame others for it instead of taking strides to better themselves and expand their own horizons.

I grew up isolated as shit with distinctional alcoholic parents, but now that I'm 23 I've taken effort to get to know people of all types, male and female, with no expectations of what they owe me. This has lead to great friendships with both genders and has also lead to fantastic relationships that only end with mutual agreement and a strong friendship is still kept. It requires effort and exposure and it's totally worth it.
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>>378439
Disfunctional. Not distinctional.
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>>364947
Herodotus had such a lovely imagination, to the point where I don't even hold it against him when he's clearly making shit up for self entertainment
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>>376951
People on here and /int/, /pol/ take Richard Lynn seriously. Take that as you will
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>>375280
>that pic
Why do so many people fail to understand the difference between real life and erotic fantasies?
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>>375823
Amheekin has a point though, that photo seems like the cover for one of those "perfect town is actually fucked" stories.
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>>364858
The CCP literally did NOTHING wrong.
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i learned about the massagetae and this is utter bullshit
are you by any chance a whore?
because you sound like one
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Entire walls in temple complexes adorned with intricate stone and cement carvings of myraids of sex acts.

Indians are so prudish today, it's a bit disappointing. I'd be interested to interact and understand a culture where these sorts of depictions were not only seen as acceptable by the public but were imbued with some sort of spiritual significance.
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>>381016
there are also other mundane things on the walls.
None inside, you are supposed to leave everything when you enter the temple.
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>The obvious obnoxious women
>The bitter spergs
>The white knights
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>>381067
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>>365029

Herodotus confirmed for being rejected by a stuck up Assyrian woman.
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>>380625
>I want to enter the personal space of women who want nothing to do with me
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>>373237
Then why is it that the occurrence of NEETs and fedora basement dwellers has only come about after our society has loosened it's views about sex. I don't understand what you're trying to get at women aren't forced to have sex with anyone in our society and those sexually frustrated individuals who women choose not to have sex with would probably exist in a matriarchy anyway since the women would not choose to have sex with them either way.
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>>364848
I recall there was once a Kingdom in India ( I cannot remember the name), whose culture was almost entirely based around sex. They made temples covered in sexual scenes and also wrote books and scrolls regarding sex worship and lifestyle.

They were conquered in no time.
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>>364947
This needs to be a doujin series.
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>>369109
Why does her caricature have an underbite? She has an overbite.
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>>374280
>This image
>They're both drunk and equally unable to consent, therefore he raped her!
Holy shit.
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The feminists despise prostitution because, for most women, their edge is lost: only a few whores in high society get a higher benefit than the clients. Reminder that women love to be officially whores in dilettante, under their terms and conditions, irrespective of the social class [ you have women in bourgeoisie who love to prostitute themselves on a few occasions]. prostitution of females towards men reminds the females too explicitly that they are tools.


this prostitution is exactly the opposite of the much much more common situation of the men providing for women, through sex, entertainment, comfort; but women manage to keep this link of authority implicit, to the point where these betas even brag about giving orgasms to women for a few hours, after the women chose them for this purpose and get rid of their toys afterwards...
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>>364848
>tfw my grandma is Assyrian
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>>385508
I know I shouldn't take this bait but most feminists support legalizing prostitution, since a woman should have the right to do with her own body whatever she wishes including prostituting it.

also >>>/r9k/ , though from glancing at the posts visible from the front board page it looks like that probably applies to this whole thread.
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>>386915

>but most feminists

They really don't. Sex negative feminism is really popular in the U,S.

And in Europe feminism had quite literally died until this new "revival" from the U.S.
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>>386940
>Sex negative feminism is really popular in the U,S.
yes, I am sure that those sex-negative women are chaste in private.
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>>387083
Sex negative feminism is usually associated with political lesbianism, i.e. women becoming exclusively gay for political reasons.
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>>366012
Well I mean, Argentina is a country of niggers so that doesn't surprise me in the least
>inb4 le Argentina is white XD
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>>369120
There's no such thing as ''male disposability'' you MRA autist. It's a fucking theory coming from fucking sociology that completely goes against history and common sense.
Drop that retarded victim complex, your kind is even worse and more obnoxious than feminists at that.
Also I don't see how this thread is related to history or humanities, it's just /r9k/ shit. Mods do you fucking job.
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>>375850
But how do you what's the ''norm'' exactly? Is there some kind of reliable stat to back that assertion up? How can you say they are ''exceptions'' exactly?
And you're only considering America anyway, there are other cultures in the world you know.
>inb4 I get called a white knight for using basic logic
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>>388198
how do you know*
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>expect a thread about sex rituals in history
>get /r9k/ still mad over their peepees not getting touched

I wish I could contribute to get this thread back on track.
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>>388273
It's because the fucking mods aren't doing their job lately, I've seen plenty of off-topic shit on other boards lately and they went completely untouched.
Also people here need to stop feeding the trolls and ignore obvious baits.
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>>388282
I shitposted in the most blatant way and got banned so there's that.
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