>you will never read all 20 volumes of Gaius Plinius Secundus' "The History of the German Wars"
give me your lost historical artifact feels, /his/
>>346665
I read somewhere that Diogenes of Sinope was in the process of writing a satire of The Republic when he died.
>tfw you will never read 200 pages of Plato getting BTFO by a man who lived in a jar.
>ywn fight in Le Grande Armee
Presocratic writings, specially Heraclitus' and Eleatics.
>>347717
Worst kind of feels.
>you'll never read Suetonius' "Lives of Famous Whores"
>>346665
We have only 10% of the whole ancient graeco roman written product.But given the fragile nature of papyrus and the religious stupidity mankind, its unlikely that we will find anything even approaching notable; and certainly not whole.
>>346665
>You will never read all the other great ancient Greek epics other than Homer's Ilias and Odysseia. You will never read any of the lost dramas of Sophocles, Euripides & Aiskhylos from the classic period...
>>348356
>2/9 fragments of the Trojan Epic has been found
>all the Anglo-Saxon works destroyed by Vikings
>all the pagan stories that were never written down
>>348356
They weren't as good as Homer's Epics, there's a reason he's referenced so much by the Greeks and the others have been lost.
>>348380
It wasn't the Vikings that lost Anglo-Saxon literature, it was the dissolution of the monasteries in the 16th century. There's still plenty of Anglo-Saxon literature anyway mate
>>348430
>tfw protestants ruined everything again
>you will never read the emperor Claudius' history of the Etruscan peoples, their culture and their society
>an entire civilisation will never come out of the murky blackness of archaeology
>>346665
I actually cried to this one, lads.
>you will never read Ptolemy's memoirs of Alexander's military campaigns
The entire library of Carthage was given to a bunch of desert nomads by the Romans and every work is gone forever. Punic and Phoenician civilization will forever be mostly a big question mark,.
>>348490
There's still Arrian's Anabasis of Alexander; Plutarch's Life of Alexander; and Quintus Rufus' History of Alexander.
>>348501
>Arrian's Anabasis of Alexander
They are not even comparable to someone who wrote a 1st hand account, while inside the circle of trust of Alexander himself.
>>348510
"Most important of all, Arrian had the biography of Alexander by Ptolemy, one of Alexander's leading generals and possibly his half-brother." Better than nothing.
>We'll never have all of those Aztec writings that the conquistadors burned
>the Library if Alexandria will never stand the test of time
>the mongols will never be stopped from sacking Baghdad
>>348550
Library of Alexandria*
>Pyrrhus' writings on warfare completely lost
God fucking dammit I wanna know what he wrote.
>>348550
>>We'll never have all of those Aztec writings that the conquistadors burned
>>348579
Right? Lel they didn't even have writing.
>>348568
>My feet hurt
>The battle cries are shitty
>The Romans continue to keep throwing cannon fodder at me
>I could be home drinking wine right now
>>346665
>You will never read anything other than fragments from Heraclitus, Democritus, Empedocles and the other pre-Socratics.
It hurts knowing that the best of the Greeks was lost.
>you will never kek to aristotle's work on comedy
>>348674
I'd much rather have his Dialogues. Lecture notes are a bore.
>>348580
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_writing
>tfw you will never know what wonders they had in Alexandria and Baghdad
Fucking savages ruining everything.
>>348635
The guy had ADHD when it came to war, I doubt he'd be content sipping wine in Epirus.
The Greeks were renowned painters and classical texts make numerous references to the 'masters'. We have some paintings from Egyptian tombs and the Roman Pompeii and herculanium frescos are nice but these were work done for middle class nobodies. Imagine the incredible art that was no doubt produced for the rich patrons by famed artisans.
All lost :(
The lost books of Tacitus' Annals: Book 5 on how Sejanus' conspiracy went down; then up through 11, detailing Caligula's reign and murder; and the end of Book 16 through to the beginning of the year 69
The more contemporary books of Livy
Livia's and Agrippina's autobiographies
Claudius' work on the Etruscans
All of Ammianus Marcellinus to bridge the gap from where Tacitus left off
The elder Seneca's book of history, as with the compelte edition of Sallust's Histories
Any poetry contemporary to Ovid, as there basically isn't any
The full Acta Senatus
Emperor Nero's Troica, or any of Lucan's other stuff beside Civil War
>>348550
>>We'll never have all of those Aztec writings that the conquistadors burned
true, but a surprising amount still exists to get an idea of how they lived after the spanish priests and the natives they trained wrote down a lot of the oral history of the aztecs. a lot of books were destroyed though i agree
>>348990
even if they are not the best, the frescoes at pompeii are still nice imo
>>346665
Is Pliny's Historia Naturalis worth reading?
I've been told it is the single largest Roman work of literature to survive to the modern times but apparently it's so information-dense that there's an entire volume of the series dedicated to equestrian spear-throwing.
Should i read an abridged version or only read certain parts? Which Ones?
everything on the early roman republic
fucking gauls now we have to rely heavily on archaeology to scrape the surface of such things
>>348990
These things are amazing. I never knew they possessed such skill in antiquity.
>>349744
That's nothing, there are surviving paintings with fucking perspective in there that look straight out of the Italian Renaissance.
>>349744
This is also a really good one.
Really, it is a good thing Romans had such good sculpture and portraiture. Even if there is idealization, it gives us a better idea of what historical figures actually looked like that loltarded early middle ages stuff.
![Roman_fresco_Villa_dei_Misteri_Pompeii_005[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CWfNFBU.jpg "Roman_fresco_Villa_dei_Misteri_Pompeii_005[1].jpg")
>>349770
Again that's nothing, check some of this shit out
>>349791
Again, these are just frescos on some random fucker in one town's walls. Note the use of perspective in some of the buildings.
>>348550
This, fucking Baghdad hurts the worst. The treasures in there. Most of the Alexandria stuff would have probably been lost anyway, but that stings too.
>>349807
Goddamn, I want to be a Patrician so I can have this kind of shit
>The Complete works of Chrysippus.
He was widely regarded in his era as one of the greatest philosophers ever. Nothing he wrote survived.
>Arrian's Complete Notes of Epictetus.
Epictetus was the man that effectively killed his philosophy. We only have half a book of notes by Arrian.
Guarantee nobody on /his/ has even read Virgil or Ovid
Before you complain about a certain historical work being lost, you should have at least read all the classics that do survive from antiquity.
>Brennus sacking of Rome
>Burning of Liberary of Alexanderia
>Mongol sacking of Baghdad
It still hurts.
>>346665
>You will never hear the music of the Ancient Greeks. The Music composed by Homer, Aristophanes, Sophocles, etc.
As someone going into a Classical voice career this hurts the most. Well, Atleast a small music portion of the play "Orestes" survives. Yet, how wonderful would it be to hear the splendor of the Ancient Greeks way they were meant to be heard?
>>349832
Read Ovid earlier this year. Going to take Latin so that I can read some stuff in the original language.
>>349832
I have read the Metamorphoses of Ovid. It was basically, a bunch of mythical stories interconnected from one to another.
>>349832
There's plenty of /lit/posters and I'm sure there's a good few from the other boards (/pol/ included) who've read at least a few classics (I hope so at least).
I just wish more people on this board read books in general, podcasts are fine but books are superior.
>>349914
Who /TheJewishWar/ here?
>>349832
>Before you complain about a certain historical work being lost, you should have at least read all the classics that do survive from antiquity
...why?
>>349939
Josephus? I play on reading him someday; in terms of historians I'm reading Kagan next, then Polybius
>>349983
Yeah. He was one of the first I read.
>>349861
>caring about monophonic music
As long as the Dufay Requiem or the rest of Ockeghem's Fors Seulement mass turn up in a manuscript someday I'd be happy.
>>347717
worse than the feels evoked by never getting to read Aristotles views on comedy desu
>>346665
>You will never learn more details about the eternal broship of Gaius and Aulus
>tfw we will never have the full story of the trojan war
>homeric fragments will never be more than just that, fragments
>>348380
Get back to Heaven, Tollers, you have that last book to collaborate on with Lewis.
For that matter
>tfw you will never read a translation of Prose Edda by Tolkien.
>>349939
Ooh, that brings a question to mind.
Did Emperor Titus ever write anything about the Bar Kokhba rebellion? I'd like to read that if it existed.
>>346665
>all those Greek mathematicians who solved problems in calculus thousands of years before calculus existed
>Archimedes figuring out flight
>all those other mathematical works lost in the burning of the Library of Alexandria
I never asked for this feel this late
>>348550
To make it worse, when they came to power the Aztecs burned and destroyed their own records and histories because it painted them in a bad light (a tiny power that had to pay tribute to a greater empire)
All pales to the lost majesty of Seutonius' "Lives of Famous Whores".
>>348686
Kinda assumed this would be b8 like
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec_meaningful_cultural_achievements
Holy shit this thread is depressing the hell out of me
Do you guys actually read these old ass Books? Could you get any more pretentious?
>>353514
Yes, and yes.
BUT WE CAN NEVER BE AS PRETENTIOUS AS ANDREW FUCKING CHUMBLEY.
>>353520
Literally who? Why read them though? Your just being a fucking snob.
>>348550
We do have a reasonable amount of aztec works though, but the real problem is that we have almost zero Mayan shit ( and those guys did the interesting stuff)
>>353527
>Why read them though? Your just being a fucking snob.
That's "you're" or "you are", plebejuszu.
And yes, being a snob is one of the perks of this field.
>>349832
I literally had to translate both in High School
>you will never read Epicurus' works
Feels bad man. I bet they were comfy as fuck.
>>353572
A good few of his works survived mate: http://classics.mit.edu/Epicurus/princdoc.html
>>353591
They really don't. The thing you linked is just a few quotes.
>>353594
They are still part if his works.
>>349681
Bump
>>353598
Compared to the amount he wrote it amounts to a few fragments.
Persia anything pre-633
Do we have ANYTHING besides the fucking Cyrus Cylinder? Written by PERSIANS and not outside Greek and Latin sources?
Trajan's Commentaries on the Dacian Wars.
The missing books of any of the major Historians mentioned in this thread.
Cato's Origines.
Sobylius - History of the Isle of Britain
>We will never know the details of building and flying vimanas or deploying lasers and nuclear weapons from them in ancient India.
Imagine reading Aristophanes' Banqueters or all of Petronius' Satyricon after a day of dealing with human stupidity
If I ever get a time machine I'll rescue all the lost works I promise
Q
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>>349791
Just saying, for those who don't know, this isn't just a painting to hang up on a wall; this is the wallpaper, and runs the entire length of the room. There's even more parts after this short image, with Bacchus and some harpy-like figure and some more figures/Bacchic mythology.
My Uni's ancient history museum has a room reserved to display the paintings and it's pretty neat.
>>347717
You should read some of Aristophanes plays.
He literally trolls everyone of philosophical merit that live near to or during his time.
>>349832
Virgil is pleb tier mate. Everyone and his mum has read it. Have you even touched Querolus?
