Did Hitler accidentally into Keynesian economics at a time when Germany's neighbors were cutting spending?
>>345656
Hitler killed any credibility the far right have had left
fascist and nazi are used as slurs now
>>345656
Hitler did nothing wrong
>>345665
>Hitler
>far right
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>>345718
Hitler was about as far right as you can get. You can't just say that something isn't so for no reason.
Sure, nationalism may have been leftist at the time, in a world where right wing politics were supporters of monarchy, but it's no longer the case.
In any case, Hitler's main ideology was fascism, which is the extreme right side of conservatism.
Stop trying to distance yourself from Hitler just because you're a conservative.
Epin /pol/ tier picture though, that was filled with about as little fact and as much vitriol as I've come to expect from your kind.
>>345741
>WORDS CHANGE MEANINGS LMAO
In this case they don't. Being right wing still means being a conservative/reactionary which the nazis were not.
>>345718
>fascism is far right
>nuh-uh
>>345753
The Nazis were at the very least economically conservative.
They were proponents of Fascism.
Their hatred for outsiders and "undesirables" also reeks of social conservatism.
>>345759
Hitler wasn't a fascist, he was a national socialist.
>>345753
>being right wing means being conservative
Take polysci 101 before you act like you know what you're talking about
>>345769
National socialism = fascism
It's about as far as you can get from socialism.
This garbage thread should serve as a reminder to us all that trying to cram ideological positions onto a single dimension is fucking retarded
>>345768
>conservative
>corporatist / fascist economical structure is somehow conservative
>nation states (a heritage of the revolution and Napoleon) are somehow conservative
>bringing about a "new man" and "new society" is somehow conservative
>singing about Kameraden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen is conservative
>being a self-declared socialist is conservative
>>345793
You clearly have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Why don't you fuck off back to /pol/ where no one will challenge your ideas in the echo chamber?
>>345802
Nah, he's kinda right. Hitler wasn't super conservative overall; he was super right wing tho
>>345802
>bring up legit points
>no counter-argument
>go back to /pol/
>oblivious to the fact most of /pol/ are Hitler fanboys to begin with
>>345817
>completely missing the point
Fascism is third way, you fucking retards.
>>345817
It's not worth arguing against idiots
>>345835
>ad hominem
>>345849
Not really, as I wasn't making an argument.
I was calling you an idiot.
Which you keep proving to me with intelligent comments like that one
>>345852
You're not contributing to the debate in any way so kindly fuck off.
>>345774
Anon, socialism is far left
>>345866
And national socialism isnt
>>345774
>National socialism = fascism
"No."
>>345718
Culture is an outgrowth of race. It is a reflection of a population group's biology.
Reactionary fag pls go.
>>345718
>H-Hitler was left-wing!
>muh Ayn Rand-esque meme ideology did nothing wrong!
>>345793
The left-right dichotomy is based on egalitarianism vs. hierarchy. The fascists & national socialists believed in an inherent hierarchy. They were conservative.
>>345665
So are commie and socialist.
The corporate centrist brankers have won. The populists have lost.
>>345917
>Ayn Rand
>conservative
This thread is getting more hilarious by the minute.
>>345923
>hierarchy
>utterly opposed to the idea of traditional aristocratic values
>elevating a bunch of plebs into a some kinda collective racial aristocracy based on their blood alone instead
>democratically elected, basing their policies on "will of the people"
Marxist pls go.
>>345928
>socialist
Whole world isn't 'Murrica, lad
>>345718
>>345665
Right/left means nothing anymore
>2015
>unironicaly believing that the right-left political spectrum is relevant.
why can't people learn that using the left-right spectrum is retarded and outdated? it was designed for the french revolution.
>>345928
>populism
>good
>ever
>>345956
So what dichotomy is there now?
>>345966
Progress v. Reaction
>>345956
>implying marxism, egalitarianism, socialism, nationalism, progressivism and fascism aren't all products of the revolution
>implying right-wing conservatism doesn't want to revive the status quo ante from before the revolution
That division is still relevant indeed.
>>345971
Thats a bullshut leftist spectrum if ive ever seen one
Hitler was pure political mutation.
Left/Right was just tools to gather his support. Social programs reeled in the left, militarism, nationalistic message and the wholesale destruction of German communism brought in the right.
>>345966
authoritarian vs. libertarian
>>345755
>the measures by lautenbach and schacht could be called demand side policies.
>there were also privatizations, but it's still contingent with overall "keynesian" attitude against mainstream (luther/brüning).
Thanks for the only real answer. I don't understand your answer! But thanks.
>>345933
>utterly opposed to the idea of traditional aristocratic values
The aristocracy is not the only form of hierarchy.
>>elevating a bunch of plebs into a some kinda collective racial aristocracy based on their blood alone instead
Blood makes the man.
>>democratically elected, basing their policies on "will of the people"
The Nazis only used democracy to get into power, they abolished it when they had the power.
>>345985
Libertarianism will die when ran paul doesnt make the primaries
>>346000
A shit-covered German peasant isn't equal to a German noble simply by the virtue of being German, sorry to burst your egalitarian bubble.
>>345981
That doesn't seem completely relevant.
ITT I learned that North Korea is a democracy because Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
Acording to the political compass Hitler's on the right but pretty close to the left. What do you guys make of this? Is it accurate?
>>346032
It is a democracy, or more like democracy's logical conclusion. The endgame got every single democracy is tyranny.
>>346013
This is a stupid strawman. According to fascism, there is a natural hierarchy of lower and upper classes. And according to national socialism (among other varieties of fascism), there is a natural hierarchy of races.
>>346040
>Ghandhi
>closer to libertarian/anarchist than to authoritarian
Shit compass
>>346050
Incorrect. The ultimate democracy is one that has the illusion of choice, where parties only disagree on inconsequential issues.
>>346052
Fascism allows for social mobility though as fascism is ultimately rooted in meritocratic ideas.
Reaction doesn't adhere to that horseshit.
>>345988
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Lautenbach
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht
they already had prepared some alternative plans for economic recovery but all previous governments kept a lid on it for mostly ideological reasons. hitler was simply the guy who made it happen.
about the privatizations:
www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf
>Against the mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930s Germany by Germa Bell
>>346078
>Germa Bel
Very unbiased source kek
>>346001
Self-proclaimed libertarians are pretty irrelevant, but most people are centre-libertarian (even if they don't use the word) so I wouldn't call it irrelevant.
>>345775
Under rated post
>>346094
???
>>345656
Nope, state regulation of economics was a common fashion that time (New Deal, Soviet planning) and until 1970s.
>>345769
Pretty sure Hitler took over the National Socialist party from within and converted its ideology to fascism.
>>346176
I figure Soviets had their own crazy model of economics and the New Deal was pretty Keynesian as I understand it, the American war economy even more so. I just figured that Hitler's preparations for war entailed a similar Keynesian flood of government money into the economy.
>>345802
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool /pol/ hater and mainline American conservative. Save the /pol/ linking for the actual stormfags.
Oh, and the Nazis? A syndicalist heresy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program
Why did this thread immediately go into an argument about right vs left?
>>346319
How's your first day on 4chan going?
