If Hitler hadn't been a thing who would have been history's greatest villain to whom everyone else thereafter would be literally and figuratively compared?
Napoleon? Genghis Khan?
Bob.
Everyone fucking hates Bob.
>>339128
Probably Stalin, his rise to power was already inevitable before Hitler's was, and he was pretty brutal.
Maybe some other commie that came up after Stalin died or something though, who knows?
I don't even understand why Hitler got so villainized when Stalin and Mao were demonstratably worse. Is it just because he lost the war?
>>339186
muh 6 gorillion mostly
>>339186
Because the things he did are taught in schools.
>>339186
Yeah pretty much that
WW2 had amazing propaganda that just kept on going
>>339202
Then how did the "Stabbed in the back" thing for WW1 become so prevalent?
>it's another thinly veiled /pol/ thread
>>339215
>It's another blatant "I don't agree with it so it must be /pol/" post
>>339128
a Simple name not be associeted a big bad man, with hitler, mussolini, bla bla bla [..]
>>339227
>It's another, 'sorry that I challenged your opinions, silly leftists' post.
>>339246
Please don't post on this board if you cannot speak the language of our Lord Jesus Christ, amen.
>>339209
Because it's true?
>>339282
Adorable.
It's totally not like the Germans were outnumbered 3:1 at that point, with their supply lines falling apart, the Americans finally gaining some competence, and the blockade causing mass starvation.
No, no, it was the cowardly Jews who stabbed the Germans in the back which is why they lost.
Do you have someone to help you get dressed in the morning?
>>339303
>thinking hitler implied the Jews stabbed Germany in the back
Read a history book, The Stab in the Back myth became apparent because German industrialists pulled out expecting the army to collapse.
Judas Iscariot
>>339186
It is literally because Jews run the media. You're just being obtuse if you disagree.
>>339215
>muh /pol/ bogeyman
Hope you'll be around for a while. We could really use your brilliant contributions in all our threads.
>>339324
this is actually a very good response
>>339317
Not him but my understanding of dolschtosselegende was that it wsa the evil social democrats and liberals (who were jewish!) sabotaged the war effort from the very beginning.
Ludendorf et all dindu nuffin wrong dey wuz gud bois.
>>339186
mao and staling oppressed peasants in mud huts
that has happened since, you know. we still didn't give a shit.
>>339227
oh man you said nigger thats so edgy
>>339479
oh man you protected some negro feelings thats so brave
>>339503
shitposting doesn't become not shitposting because it might theoretically offend someone
why did you think it would
>>339560
my reply was just the other side of the same coin :^)
>>339612
there is a difference between telling someone to go fuck himself and expressing opinions that have the same effect
you posted in this thread and on this board, telling you that your post is shit is relevant to both. making posts that might upset someone who may or may not be browsing isn't. you want to offend someone, dont bring the god damn negros into it.
no one cares about niggers. no one cares about the fucking jews. we hate you, /pol/, because you keep fucking posting about things no one gives a shit about. no one has ever been offended. no one.
>>339327
>more sarcasm
Hope you'll be around for a while. We could really use your brilliant contributions in all our threads.
>>339789
>we
Calm down, libkek.
>>339186
Propaganda.
>>339186
It isn't the 6 million deaths in of itself. I mean it's a big number, but any nation can rack up a kill count that big if it REALLY wanted to.
It's that it was done so methodically in only a couple years.
>>339209
Because Hitler didn't know what the fuck he was talking about.
The fact is Germany was outnumbered, was fighting on multiple fronts, and despite what he thinks, many jews fought for Germany because no shit, it was their homeland.
>>340142
>done methodically
>>339324
Man he got a rough deal. Suffering in hell forever for something Jesus needed him to do.
Come on Jesus, what's the deal here?
>>340158
Compared to the Rwanda method of machetes, yes.
>>339186
Because Stalin and Mao did their shit to people that no one cared about. You hear about the things that they did and they're objectively horrifying but they happened in far off backwaters and for the most part, they kept that shit in their own yards.
Hitler took one of the most relevant cultural centers in Europe, lashed it together into one of the most fearsome war machines that history has ever seen and used it to start the most destructive war in history in the heart of western civilization.
>>339195
>>339326
>>339227
>>339258
Let me tell you how I spot a /pol/tard. I'm not trying to bash you, I'm honestly trying to explain how I spot someone from /pol/ with great ease and with a perfect record. This is not a joke or an attack on /pol/ or any of their frequent posters, it's brutal, genuine honesty. Maybe you can use it to reflect on yourself or your community.
>angry
/pol/ posters are seemingly always angry
>buzzwords
/pol/ posters love their buzzwords
>claiming someone has a certain political ideology on no merit
mainly marxism
>excessive personal insults
some /pol/lacks manage to keep an air of dignity and muster a coherent argument, sadly they are always accompanied by infographic spammers and 'ura kek lmao jidf detected' posters
And so on that note, >>>/pol/
>>340166
reddit: the post
>>340164
Doesn't make it methodical.
That's like saying I'm living super healthy compared to someone who's getting drunk four times a week while doing coke while I'm "only" eating three McDonalds meals a day.
>>340166
>Because Stalin and Mao did their shit to people that no one cared about
you literally proved them all right on the first sentence you typed
please go back to /lit/
>>340172
Thank you for making my point for me. It's not just reddit that hates you.
>>340178
Actually, if you want to be accurate, you should be telling me to go back to /k/
>>340161
Jesus never said God was fair
>>340183
i am being accurate, go to /lit/. /k/ did nothing to be cursed with your presence.
>>340198
>claiming someone has a certain political ideology on no merit
>>340166
>how I spot someone from /pol/ with great ease and perfect record
A. Holy fuck do you read what kind of garbage you type on the keyboard?
B. /pol/, /k/, /lit/, /a/ whatever the board my be. We're not all one person you see?
>>340179
>admitting to being from reddit
Your post is on par with /r/atheism.
>>340261
>admitting to being from reddit
Actually I'm also >>340183
>>340161
if there is a heaven, i'm certain Judas is chillin on the main cloud.
>>339128
>end the reign of terror
>have war declared by all european monarchies for commiting the crime of breaking the status quo
>most of this monarchs rule with an ironfist sending people to the gallows arbitrarily to stay in power
>millions killed
>the wars he never started get his name
>he's crowned the villan
>the monarchs are the good guys
c'mon guys...
but on topic: genghis khan was an absolute demon; if not him you could choose at random any arabian emperor/muslim caliph, if in europe, german always had a lot of scum rulling their forsaken lands.
Im guessing hitler was popular because he started a roast. Hitler took it a step beyond lining em up and shooting em. i havnt even seen Tojo mentioned yet. Most other camps were paradise compared to german camps
>>340161
Judas actually repented and asked for forgiveness. He didn't go to hell and basically you are an edgy atheist spouting bullshit about stuff you can't understand
>>340495
I'm just going by what Dante said
>>340276
>so mad you screencap a post that you disagree
Chill out, m8.
>>339186
>mfw people complain about the ridiculousness of the 6 gorillion argument against nazi Germany and than turn around and sperg out about muh 10000 gorillion as evidence that communists are literally satan
>>340172
M8, wtf, you're either too dumb to get it, or you're intentionally feeding his pompous faggotry.
>>342411
Timur for one was way worse.
>>340166
>Because Stalin and Mao did their shit to people that no one cared about
So literally muh 6 gorillion?
>>342483
Yes. More like 12 if you count political disidents, fags, gyppos, retards, slavs, dutch, etc.
And that is not counting the massacres in Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, The Baltic or wherever against the local populace. You see, Stalin, fucking evil as he was, didn't commit the heinous shit Hitler did in occupied Eastern Europe.
>>342483
what if I told you people in china and russia are literally being oppressed right now
>>339186
Hitler actually meant to do it and he had much less time
>>339420
Basically this. Ludendorf implied that a final victory in 1918 had been really close ( it wasn't of course due to the americans, but operation Michael made it a credible narrative for the germans), but those evil politicians and lefties back home didn't want a german victory
>>339186
Maybe because Stalin and Mao didn't murder six million innocent people?
![vlad-tepes2_thumb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uOT4HV7.jpg "vlad-tepes2_thumb[1].jpg")
>>342411
i wasn't even talking just about high score even if he had a pretty high one - but in terms of cruelty he was also way on top when compared to other absolute leaders before and after his era.
he just didn't care the slightest for human lives...
and i've just remember about vlad, the impaler who also did very neat inventive shit to human bodies
>>339388
Thanks. He was the go-to name for a traitor in Christian Europe for centuries.
>>342921
yeah, but those were kebabs.
Ironic, all things considered.
>>339128
Stalin already *is* history's greatest villain, with Mao close behind.
>>342921
>inventive
Nah mate, impaling was at least 100 years old in Wallachia and Moldavia. And he was just a sadist, his contemporaries and predecessors were almost as ruthless and violent as him.
>>342678
>murdering 6 million innocents is unacceptable
>murdering 60 million innocents is perfectly fine
>>343574
>le ebin strawman man
So if I kill 5 children John Wayne Gacy absolves me of my guilt or something because he had 30?
>>342678
>Stalin and Mao
>not mass murderers
What
>>343571
impaling is just one of uncle's vlad customs.
he ruled his domain like a house of horror and he did pretty wicked shit besides the "common" torture sceneries.
it's said (by the ruskies) that he once nailed a turbant to the heads of some turkish messengers because they refused to take off their turbant while in their presence...
some of those sources are shady and as most historical tales lack real evidence given the time and the lack of preserved information, but even if a third of them is true, the guy was an absolute madman and a completely insane sadic fuck.
(http://hubpages.com/education/25-Facts-about-Vlad-Tepes-the-Impaler)
>>343606
My folks come from Romania. I know quite a bit about him. He was an evil fuck to be sure, but the worst? By reputation mostly.
>>339128
Genghis Khan wasn't hated in Asia
His whole nation was. To the point that "Mongol" is a byword for Barbarism
>>343584
You're missing the point. The poster implied Hitler was a bad guy for murdering 6 million people while Stalin and Mao are not bad guys for also killing people, and more than Hitler.
Is there a limit at which you stop being a bad guy and mass murder becomes okay? Is anything between 1 murder and 25 million murders unacceptable, while 25,000,001 million murders and above is fine?
What makes Hitler's 6 million so evil while Stalin's 50~ million Mao's 78~ million is, to that poster, clearly acceptable? It's either because there's some special range, or because he's simply a retard and denying the deaths of 100+ million people because le ebin cumumsm can work guiz XD meme.
>>343631
>To the point that "Mongol" is a byword for Barbarism
>An Empire founded by non-Mongol Nomads names itself after Mongols
Ok.
>>343652
...you mean the Mughals dont you?
Who called itself the "Gurkani" or "Timurid" Dynasty?
Who thought of themselves as mighty Persiaboo Holy Warriors?
Mughal was a label attached by Hindus to the Turkic Dynasty that settled there. Since everyone on a horse with a bow = Mongs to them.
Babur hated the fucking mongols too
>"Were the Mongols a race of angels, they would still be an abomination. Where their name written in gold, it would still be foul."
-Babur.
>>339195
hello reddit
>>343651
name one noncommunist who thinks lenin and stalin arent bad
>>339317
read a book you kek
the Dolchstoßlegende specifically refers to socialists, communists and jews as the perpe traitors, because clearly Germany would not lose a war if it wasn't for them!
>>345248
Never understood what is the matter with lenin
>>342423
>>>/reddit/
>>339186
stalin & mao did shit that got people killed and didn't really care about how many people died, so long as the Plan worked.
hitler killed people because that was the Plan.
d'you see the difference?
>>345332
Everything that we hate Stalin for, Lenin did as well. He just did it on a smaller scale.
>>340166
spot on, sadly
don't forget memes, too
no one loves memes more than /pol/ does
>>345336
What about the civil war, the post-war crysis and the NEP? What else could have been done?
>>345348
You have no idea. When they get called on their bullshit on /k/ they start screaming about how we're all commies.
On /k/ of all places.
>pic related
>>345335
ths is probably the simplest answer to the question. The Nazis murdered women and kids because they happened to be born the wrong "race".
The great purges, the cultural revolution, the deportations, they were all horrible in their own way, but somehow they are not as absurdly evil. There is a sort of rationality behind the inhumanity.
Question to fellow Europeans; do you experience that because of European Integration the guilt of the Nazis kind of gets spread out, beyond Germany?
>>339128
>Napoleon
>Villain
This is a BAD meme.
>>345823
Sup methnigger
>>347586
I see you're still harbouring all that white guilt like a good spineless faggot
>>339128
Genghis Khan is still history's greatest villain in my book, followed by Muhammed. Ultimately, Hitler lead to the end of colonialism, albeit unintentionally, so there are at least some redeeming qualities to his actions, while there was none for the other two.
>>347955
Hitlers intentions were never to lay end to colonialism, that was simply what happened as a butterfly effect of WW2. If I kill X people, and it in the end ends up being beneficial does that make it okay?
>>347981
>Hitlers intentions were never to lay end to colonialism, that was simply what happened as a butterfly effect of WW2
That's literally what I said.
>If I kill X people, and it in the end ends up being beneficial does that make it okay?
From a historical point of view, yes.
>>347907
Not really. How are you doing tonight?
