Explain to me how giants can exist in every single ancient mythology?
Also explain how giants have the same origin, being a result of Heaven copulating with Earth?
well its obv bruh giants actually existed
now that u know what u gonna do with that noledge? the conssequences will never be the same
Titans aren't giants. Read Hesiod.
>>337179
>>337179
Same reason why most mythologies also feature huge reptiles, fish, birds, carnivorans etc.
Conceiving a bigger version of a regular creature is a simple way of making said creature scarier or more imposing in stories, so most cultures did it.
gigantism
>imfuckingplying the Nephilim were giants
During 20,000 bc there was up to 2-3 feet of variance in height among humans.
Today there are a people in Africa that average under 5 feet tall.
>humans
>but bigger
not exactly a difficult concept to come up with m8
What I'm more confused about is how every culture has both a flood story and a "the day the sun stood still" story. It's intriguing, and far less coincidental than larger versions of existing creatures.
>>337367
Never heard any day the sun stood still stories.
Everywhere has a big flood at some point. And if your entire world is nothing but a couple of days walk then yes the world can flood
>>337179
Denisovans
>>337367
were there flood stories in scandinavia?
>>337367
>flood story
civilization arose on riverbanks
>>337385
It varies from entire day to the long day depending on the area.
China has records of a Long Day, Aztec records depict the stun standing still for a whole day, and Egyptian wall carvings also show records of a long day occuring.
Whether this is just coincidental or not or some phenomenon that actually happened is the question. I don't believe the sun stood still for whole day by some supernatural greater being at any rate.
>>337179
At one time, there were at least two "giant" human species: Homo heidelbergensis in Africa (Southern Africa to be specific, getting over 7 feet tall), and Meganthropus, a subspecies of Homo erectus or possibly a very late surviving Australopithecus (more than likely the former)
>>337367
If you literally build civilization across costs and rivers, you will have floods.
At some point there will be a flash thawing of inland ice from winter, combined with rain, and you got a flood.
>>337179
>be huge dude becaude of genetic problems
>beat the shit out of people
>they are scared and amazed at me
>they think I'm some superhumam being that came from the heavens
>they spread the word
>>337367
Did you read that creationist children's book too?
>bones of large animals like elephants
>notable figures that were a bit taller than their peers (190cm was considered "gaint of a man" in a lot of cultures).
>typical assumption that gods probably were big enough to make men look like ants mostly due to natural disasters that would support that theory
>"larger people" is a pretty easy concept to wrap your head around
take your pick
>>337532
Also, a lot of the notions that "every culture has X story" are pretty wrong. Usually they involve shoehorning (like Titans), or just ignoring groups that don't have that kind of story. It's also worth noting that because of globalism and cultural contact, plenty of groups that didn't have these stories ended up picking them up. For example, a lot of Native American groups have flood stories that are kind of awkwardly inserted into their oral traditions and are obviously the result of missionary influence. The same is probably true of a lot of other cultures as well.
>>337637
>Usually they involve shoehorning
Yeah, that's a thing too. Many cultures' mythologies feature "dragons" simply because tons of completely unrelated creatures were lumped together under one broad term.
>>337179
Man is the most dangerous animal. The only thing dangerous is a really big, strong man with a giant cock who is better than you in every way.
>>337367
>"the day the sun stood still"
I get the feeling that some of these instances could referring to annual solstices. For tropical regions though it's a bit more of a mystery. What about eclipses?
Jotunn were human sized and gods fucked them (Loki for example had a giantess for a wife) frost giant is a mistranslation. Even norse mythology is fucking disappointing. Scandinavians truly are failures.
>>337179
Because a lot of people were molested as children.
No, srsly. That's where most gigantism and vore fetishes originate. Cuz when yer a toddler, every adult looks like a giant.
Plus... For you.
>>337367
>>337407
Well, that, and a lot of mythology is adopted copy-pasta, especially in and around the fertile crescent.
Compare Epic of Gilgamesh finale with story of Noah, and you know it's less describing the same event, and more copying the same outlandish story.
(Not that the Noah meets LotR movie wasn't boss as fuck.)
>>339857
Interesting to point out, and most here probably already know, but sometimes many giants literally were Big Guys, as in they were just people or a race of people attributed to be just bigger and taller than every else at the time. Think the Philistines/Goliath. Something, something extremely painful...
>>339850
so how is it supposed to be translated
>>339993
It meant devourer.
Big people are intimidating
REALLY big people are REALLY intimidating
this shit isn't complicated
>>339977
>If I hit you with my sling, would you die?
>It would be extremely painful
Children remember their ancestors who died when they were young as being larger than they really were. This happened and happens in every human society, and in places without standards for measurement.
Hunter-gatherers were a good few inches taller than their farming neighbors, at least before they were moved onto marginal land. This is a process that also happened everywhere in the world.
>>337179
>Explain to me how giants can exist in every single ancient mythology?
>>340206
The people that used to hunt rape and murder the original Romans were really damn big guys. Looking at the training equipment used by ancient Athenians you can tell they were bigger and stronger than anyone alive today.
The Aborigines that lived near the coast around Sydney were head and shoulders taller than the British that arrived. They could throw a rock from wayyyyy over there and hit you in whichever eye they preferred.
So clans of hillbillies that were under pressure to be big and ferocious would be called trolls or ogres by the huddled farmers in their fortified villages. The pressure to be social, on the other hand, creates stories and eventually sends a hero out to smack those fuckers down, especially when they wander into the village at night to snatch a child and eat it.
The social model persisted, the mighty fringe dwelling atrocities died out or were hunted to extinction.
>realise bigger = stronger
>want to come up with a story about really strong people
Not that hard
Neandertals were present across Europe and Asia. We conflicted a lot with them. Oral history tends to mythologies things over time: thus giants.
>>337367
There's a theory that the straight of Gibraltar was once a land bridge. At some point it broke and flooded the area that became the Mediterranean. Given the density of archaic civilization around the coast of this region and the great flood myth of Abrahamic religions, it's thought that this might be the source.
>>337179
Parental metaphors. Also the fact that "really big person" isn't really a difficult thing to imagine.
>>340704
Shouldn't it be fairly easy to date the Mediterranean with geological samples and such?
t. geological pleb
>>337179
They're dragons in almost every single ancient mythology. Does that mean dragons were real at some point?
>>337179
Remember that giants/titans/other-big-humanoid-entities are primordial. They shape mountains, landscapes, etc. It's an explanation.
>>340704
That theory's been debunked but a similar one for the Black Sea has support.
>>340109
Slings are genuinely lethal
>>340593
They were shorter.
>>337179
>Also explain how giants have the same origin, being a result of Heaven copulating with Earth?
Except that's fucking wrong, you idiot, and if you'd done two minutes of research into this you'd know that Ymir in Norse mythology is the original lifeform and the race of giants emerged from his armpits with no copulation involved and entirely prior to the origin of the Earth
>>340731
>Does that mean dragons were real at some point?
Yes and their remains are all over the world.
>>340060
what did they devour
>>342419
Yo momma's pussy
Was Jesus a big guy?
>>342458
For you.
>>337179
"Also explain how giants have the same origin, being a result of Heaven copulating with Earth?"
This does not hold true for the norse mythology.
Ymir, the first being, who was a giant was basically born out of the clashing of hot and cold. The second generation of giants grew from his armpits, in what I can only presume to be from some real kinky masturbation.
>>337179
Yeah theres no way that people had imaginations when mythology was being written.
>>343973
I remember one retard who shared his great discovery that greek mythology is all made up so this thread isn't anything out of the ordinary for /his/ standards. Of course the idiot was a /pol/tard how surprising.
>>337367
>ancient hebrew creation story
>man was created by God in a perfect garden paradise and was told to do whatever except to just not eat this one specific fruit or they would be casted out
>ancient aztec creation story
>man was created by the gods to live in the perfect garden of heaven with them. They were given free range to do whatever they wanted except to not pick this one specific flower or they would be casted out
>>337367
>every culture has a flood story
How the fuck can you possibly prove such a broad statement. Do you have any idea how many little cultures and ethnicities made up the world in prehistoric and ancient times?
>>343999
Both share dualism, morbid imagery and a central focus on sacrifice and its redemptive power.
Aztecs: sacrifice yourself for God
Christianity: God sacrifices himself for you
tho IIRC the initial Aztec reaction to Christianity was something along the lines of "What kind of pussy God would let himself get nailed to a cross?"
Its because people needed a solution for thing that cant be explained without science so they imagine a creature that is capable of doing the unexplained event.
>>344009
Unlikely considering they have a flayed God
>>343999
let's make a game where we explain these odd coincidences with secret organizations that fight each other and find hidden ayylmao technology
>>337179
Giants were people over 5 foot 9
>>344071
Xipe Totec, although he did it for renewing crops and not supernatural redemption. Yeah, I didn't really believe the story, I just thought it was funny.
>>344009
Aztecs was more gods sacrifices themself for you and now you must refund them.
>>343999
The aztecs had a race of giants in their mythology. Living before humans, they were stupid and ate acorns.
>>337179
>Also explain how giants have the same origin, being a result of Heaven copulating with Earth?
Oh please, that's not the origin in Norse mythology. Not even close.
>>337244
Why do you assume for some magical reasons humans 5000 years ago were retarded and you today by the miracle of modern world have a different brain?
>>337179
>in every single ancient mythology
what? kek not even close. Go back to school kid.
when humans adopted agriculture their height dropped dramatically. when they then migrated to more remote areas, they encountered peoples still living as hunter-gatherers and as so taller and more "savage" than themselves.
>>344204
Why would they be retarded for that? The same trick is still used today, just look at modern fantasy and science fiction: Most monsters and aliens look just like real animals or humans with some modifications, e. g. a larger size.
Imagining something that's fundamentally different from the things we know is actually pretty hard.
Ey naziboos Soviets won ww2 now stop crying and finding retard reasons
Humans exist.
X being bigger than Y is a basic concept.
QED
>>344204
...what? When did he say or even imply that? Did you reply to the wrong person?
>>337455
>Aztec records depict the stun standing still for a whole day
Then why don't contemporary European records also mention the sun staying still for an entire day? Fucking Oxford university is older than the Aztec empire, there would have been records.
>>337637
>Usually they involve shoehorning (like Titans)
Or Jötnar. It's very much unclear wether they were actually any bigger than regular people because size and scale isn't really mentioned much in Norse mythology but is implied in reference to a few creatures such as Jörmungandr and Fenrir, both of whom also technically were Jötnar.
Any validity to the theory of ghouls, undead, etc come from dogs partially digging up shallow graves loking like the decayed corpse was crawling out?
>>344101
the secret world is it, more or less
check it out, it seems real good (if you like mmorpgs)
>>344101
You're 20 years late on that one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate
>take a guy
>make him big
>big is up
>sky is up
pretty basic imo
Also the dualistic nature of cultural symbolic structures doesn't harm.
>>337179
You have a strong case of confirmation bias.
>>347655
As it is mentioned in the book of Joshua
Such an astrological event would have taken place at least 2500 years ago. A few years before Oxford.
Just because the Aztec has mythological records of it doesn't mean it occurred during their empire
They were not Giants like in Greek myth.
That is a simple over embellishment.
You have to Equate Giant with Hybrid. Because every Giant was a Demigod or a Half Divine and Half human child.
They called them Giants but they were essentially Nephilim.
But you have to understand that these Hybrids of Divine angels or heavenly beings is also a lie.
They are not Supernatural Angels from heaven and their Lord is not the all powerful creator God.
They were Aliens from Outer Space. The Angels are the Igigi of the Anunnaki.
All the old Sumerian stuff is the true source. The hebrew bible is based on it.
They chose one of these gods as their Lord.
These guys came down and they mated with human women to make these Giants.
The Igigi were the Military of the Anunna gods.
The same way Angels are the Military of the Elohim.
They came at the wedding of Marduk to Sarpanit and abducted human females and had children by them.
The Igigi were called the Malakim and they gave birth to the Anakim.
Anakim are the Giant Hybrids or Nephilims that were made from the sex with 'Angels' and humans.
This is what all the old myths tell us, there are many versions of this story. This is how the Fallen Fell.
These Giant hybrids were all wiped out by the deluge.
>>337179
Ancient baneposting. Giants are big guys [spoiler]for you[/spoiler]
