Does proselytising work on 4chan? Has anybody here ever changed their religious beliefs due to this site?
yeah man some neckbeard here showed me the light and now I'm gonna suicide bomb myself right in my asshole thanks mates
>>307416
I used to be a commie living in a fantasy world, but I gradually became a nationalist with some libertarian views.
>>307436
sounds hot
>>307416
I used to be an atheist.
Now I'm an atheist with a fedora.
>>307416
I used to be a Classical Liberal
Now I'm a Democratic Socialist
>>307416
Yes, I became so scared of le hat meme that now I pray to skydaddy every day.
>>307416
Yes, I abandoned my blind faith in racial equality.
>>307416
>dat pic
>>307499
This desu
What if people make fun of me for having uncool opinion? ;_;
I must convert to Orthodox Christianity because that's so redpilled and stuff
>>307416
I began as center-right and moved slightly further to the right after lurking /pol/ for a while. Then I realized they're a bunch of delusional retards and moved back to my prior position.
It made me hate Jews a lot more than before.
t. jew
>>307534
In my case, it made me proud that my people are behind every move of every major political player in the world
Truly, G-d's chosen people
>>307416
Most of those threads are not really created to convert. Its a feelgood thread for christians and they can mock/insult others without worrying about the sinful repercussions, since they are "defending the faith"
Absolutely. The fact that a fat guy wears a hat must mean that the world was created by an omnipotent entity that cares about you cutting off parts of your dick
>>307416
Pol has a few good conversion stories
>>308174
If studying leads you to spirituality then you're many standard deviations below average intelligence.
I guess that's kind of an accomplishment.
>>308174
/pol/ converted me to Christianity as embarrassing as it is to admit.
Funny, because /pol/ also turned me into solid conservative. The only thing it failed in was turning me into a racist. They almost succeeded though, but then it backfired. Almost made me into an anti-racist.
>>308174
anime Christian girl is top autismo
>>308260
Can you go into a bit more detail about how it did so?
>>308331
>Christianity
I was already kind of anti-degeneracy due me feeling a bit disgusted with how much emphasis was being put on having sex and flaunting wealth on the media. Although I didn't care about God or religion, I wasn't an atheist. I decided to give some religions a try in order to cope better with the hedonistic world which was draining me spiritually. Coincidentally, Christian threads were starting to pop-up on /pol/. After reading some good theology and hearing some good arguments on how Christianity is apposed to the things I saw as moral degradation, I realized that Christianity was what I was looking for. I guess you can say I was a cultural Christian for a while because I only saw Christ as a great teacher, not divine. But overtime, I acknowledged His divinity.
>>308462
But what makes Christianity the true faith and not something like Islam or Buddhism which have thier own anti degeneracy aspects?
>>308462
So basically, you're a weak pussy who jumped on the first bandwagon you found
I expect you to be a buddhist next year
>>308481
That's the story on how I converted to Christianity. I can't really convince you that Christianity is the true religion on posts alone since I am a shit apologetic.
>>308498
I only looked into Islam, Buddhism, local paganism, and non-religious moral philosophy. Although I did like some teachings better than others they all felt incomplete.
>>308524
I've heard good things about stoicism. But from what I've understood, it's all about keeping your emotions in check. Is it really that simple?
>>308524
>At least you're not like this guy
Someone with a spine? Someone who isn't persuaded by groupthink and covers it up with 'le redpill'?
Yeah, thank god you and him aren't that guy. Post le hat maymay, then no one will notice how you're basically everything you pretend to be against
>>307416
Being confronted by opposing views has only strengthened my convictions. Everyone who tries to convince me otherwise usually just descends into hysterical appeals to emotion.
>>307416
This board is supposed to be historically accurate.
>>308535
In what way is Islam and Buddhism incomplete?
>>308535
Stoism is more than just about emotions. It's also about how to view things outside yourself.
Stoism leans towards determinism and does not focus heavily on labeling people as good or evil. People will act the way they do because of the circumstances around them. If something is beyound your control you should not dwell on it. Rather than complaining or moralizing about how things 'should be' a Stoic should rationally figure out how to approach each situation the best.
A stoic would very much believe that they and everyone else deserve exactly they fate they get and nothing more or less. So you do not dwell on your fate, you accept the facts, figure out your options, and move from there. It's highly pragmatic and practical.
I've seen it happen on /pol/.
They push Christianity hard. It does have some good values, especially those around socialising with others (i.e. at the church), and the idea itself of living by a set of virtues.
It could be improved by swapping the sacrifice to an external god with dedication to ones' self-improvement.
>>308712
That's sort of how Renaissance theology worked. They really emphasized that man had a divine nature (think of the famous painting where God touches man). Since man was so close to God he didn't need to sacrifice and grovel as much, since he was already so close to God. There were some theological popping up that took it to the extreme, for example angels were just men that had improved themself so much that they ascended into a higher being.
>>308775
Interesting. Thanks anon, I'll investigate that.
I've been taking certain ideas from different philosophies, subjects and religions, and adding them to a personal philosophy I'd like to live my life by. It's a slow process that evolves piece by piece over a very long time, but I'm learning a lot from it.
The idea is that I can develop a personal way of life for myself (and maybe others) to maximise happiness and fulfilment.
>>308808
If you want a hint a huge emphasis on Reinnsance philosophy was Platoism, Humanism, and Hermatism.
Hermatism was a theology that could be applied to any religion, it emphasized a direct connection with God, humans were capable of the same type of great wisdom as the divine. This was accomplished through personal prayer and 'mental alchemy' which was basically meditation techniques.
Platonism emphasized idealism by saying everything is based on a divine 'form' which one strives to mimic.
Humanism allowed these thinkings to be possible. Basically the divine world and the human world stopped being unrelated and co-existed. The most extreme form would be Kabalism which said not only can we connect to the divine to understand him but God connects to us to understand himself. So a society that let itself decay and become corrupt would in-turn corrupt their own God.
>>307461
This. So very much this.
>>308558
>that Thompson
>those uniforms
>>308647
Damn, that sounds so old school. But it makes sense. No wonder it's still around after thousands of years.
>>309055
>Platonism emphasized idealism by saying everything is based on a divine 'form' which one strives to mimic.
It also leads to Gnosticism and the degrading of the material worlds value
I used to be radically left, now I'm moderately left. That's about it though.
>>309238
Exactly opposite here
When you see the /pol/ scum you can get radicalised
I used to have some liberal views and go towards the libertarian route.
I'm more a democrat socialist now.
>>309231
It also led toe Christianity which did the exact same thing...
As Nietzsche pointed out Plato made the mistake of separating the "real world" and "other world" This caused values to migragate away to the "other world".
In some interpretations of Gnostism and Christianity there is a tether that allows the two world to be bridged. A Christian theologian can emphasis the "essence of God which is in everything" or a Gnostic theologian can emphasis the "divine spark of God which is in us all" this allows the values to descend from the other world to the real world. So you can have more wholesome forms of the religion. You can also have terrible versions like Calvinism which says man is so corrupt that God doesn't even want to be on the earth at all or the early Gnostics that said people's own flesh was 'evil'. The mileage of a religion may vary.
The highest form of spiritualism is when the spirit world and the physical world are one in the same. Something like pantheism (everything is God) or really, old school religion where the Gods and spirits physically live on earth or where man himself is God (that's the religion of really, really old school rulers who were thought to be all sons and daughters of the divine)
Essential the divine is a vessel that has all meaning and value, the further away it is from the real world, the harder it is to approach, the harder it obtain those values. The "real world" separated from God is without meaning or value. Whatever you say is divine will have meaning, whatever you say isn't divine will be empty.
>>307416
I was indepdent when I started browsing 4chan and after having seen what /pol/ and tumblr are like, my convictions were strengthened. I've seen what taking hard-line stances on everything is like and I concluded that it isn't a desirable way to view the world. It clouds your judgement and makes you biased.
Impartially = GOAT
>>309296
My fucking nigga.
>>308462
>dislikes "flaunting wealth on the media."
>turns into a conservative
Explain that logic please.
I was a typical right-wing conservative from /pol/. Then i started my degree in economics (oh, the irony) in a heterodox college. I started reading Marx on the political economics class, i've got interested in sociology, philosophy and psychoanalysis. I've read a lot of Nietzsche, Deleuze, Adorno, Freud and others. Suddenly i've started to see all the bullshit from /pol/ from a different perspective and then i was becoming more and more leftist.
Basically, when i started to understand all the things i was criticizing, without memes or tendentious websites, but actually reading and studying them, i turned myself in what once i was criticizing. A degenerate, race traitor, JIDF, a socialist, atheist and so on.
>>309296
Impartiality is a ilusion.
>>307528
This was me but i went all dumblr first
Then i went hardcore "rational" racist and sexist due to /b/ and /pol/
Then i stopped caring about what those other Internet faggots thought
>>309282
I was about to post this, but you posted it more eloquently than I could, thanks!
I had the same impression with Plato, I think it was while reading the Crito, where he would dismiss the material world altogether, so I can understand that the Gnostics could claim him as a predecessor. Plato posited the eternal forms, but, as far as I know, he never dealt with how these are instantiated. That only became clear with the Incarnation. Plato raised the question, Christ is the solution, Christ came to perfect the philosophy of the pagans. The Word / Logos became flesh.
>>309329
I used to be fairly liberal in high school during the bush years, then went through a contrarian phase my first year in college (Obama was elected) becoming a neckbeard libertarian on /new/ and whining about SJWs and Feminists before hating SJWs was a meme. It was only until I had failed a class literally because "my professor was a marxist" and refused to do any of the readings then fucked my GPA that I realized I took advice from morons. Learning to think for yourself sounds deceptively simple but too many young (and old) people take it to mean "think the opposite of what you were told" when it means take "from what you will". When I see young people flocking to /pol/ or to SRS/tumblr for their daily confirmation bias only to turn around and call any slight dissent SJWs/Stormniggers I realize just how dumb we really are.
Christposting on /lit/ made me go from a fedora to a devout Christian
>>312084
Praise the LORD!
>>307416
Every "Christian" on this board and website as a whole fell for the /pol/ bantz and thought that they're special and a bastion of faith against the atheist and Muslim degeneracy, but in fact they're all like fedora's just with a cross that they got out of their mom's garage.
>>308524
>be a loner loser with no perspective, girlfriend and passion
Wait it's not me, it's the evil world that is degenerate and bad, they drag me down, I can't be in any way responsible for how I feel
People browsing 4chan are generally speaking social outcasts in some ways, I don't exclude myself, and human beings ad we all are, are constantly looking for approval, for a group, that we belong to, so every reddit9k fuck and /pol/ shit poster becomes Christian because it unites them in their hate for others and gives them a sense of belonging in anonymity.
Easy as that really
/christian/ on 4+4chan made me take my faith much more seriously, and i pretty much converted a catholic-but-only-on-paper anonfriend from /int/ to proper catholicism
Of coursh.
>>307416
I think /his/ made me realize that things are complex and filled with grey areas, I mean I knew this before but it's always good to see this on a website like this, where it's usually an echo chamber of 2 opinions on each board, reaffirming each other in extreme ways, here we get some actual discussion and facts and not just meaningless banter.
>>313878
This desu
>>307493
I went from conservative to libcap
Lets be honest, this board hasnt changed anything. Pol is for shitstorms and boredom, politics is for getting power and glory.
>>307416
/pol/ made me support Christianity, but not believe in it.
It has utility, but not truth.
>>308174
>I can't set my moral standards myself so I need to intentionally force myself to believe some magical bullshit
Wow. Just wow.
>>307461
false flag: the post
>>308558
Source??
>>307416
I used to be "muslim" then I became an atheist, then Muslim again and now I'm a fedorafag.
>>314149
Did they start deleting your threads?
You know a lot of people know about Mosley so you aren't really enlightening anybody, and probably turning them off from sympathy toward him by virtue of your autistic spamming?
>>309320
American Republicans are not real conservatives, they're just cunts worshipping the green. Pat Buchanan would be a better pick.
I used to be a hothead, but thanks to 4chan I'm now just a big guy.
>>307416
I used to enjoy video games, but then I went on /v/ for an hour. Now they fill me with hate and I insult anyone who likes new things.
Does that count?
