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Has there ever been a crazier modern leader?
>>306042
technically, blacks are still kings in Africa. You've got Lesotho and Swaziland, plus the Zulu king is still a king to his people.
>>306004
I don't know who your guy is but pic related was pretty wacky
>>306503
The guy in the OP is King of Scotland who declared the war on US and later the same day claimed himself the victor tier wacky.
>>306021
didnt this guy use some crazy amount of aid money from other countries to finance his inauguration ceremony
>>306503
Nixon was a powertripping asshole (LBJ, too) and we're the worse for having elected him, but no way was he even in the same league as Amin, a genuine sociopath.
mussolini had some wacky things going
>>306601
Yep. A bit of context here for the craziness, because Bokassa, despite the theatrics was one of the more effective post-colonial dictators.
This whole thing is patterned on Napoleon's inauguration. The French were Bokassa's primary backer. The French also killed Bokassa's father when he was a child.
The whole thing is a slightly self-aware Freudian exercise in "Look at me, I'm FRANCE!"
>>306625
That wasnt crazy. He understood to make a fascist dictatorship work he needed theatrics. That's where all the macho gestures and over reactions came from.
What about Gaddafi?
Weren't Gaddafi and Amin also best friends?
>>306702
Didn't he have some schoolchildren killed because they wouldn't wear uniforms his wife had made for them?
>>306721
Gaddafi was the friend of anybody that was against the west
>>306004
How come Pol Pot hasn't been mentioned yet?
>>306736
Yeah. IIRC the contentions were over something about the uniforms praising Bokassa.
But that was typical for rule, and part of his horrid 'theatrics'. "Yes, I will kill a bunch of schoolchilren who fuck with me."
BUT because Bokassa offered balls to the wall craziness, he didn't rely on large scale ethnic violence and reprisals like say, Amin, which would have been super easy in the arbitrary shitshow that is the Central African Republic: a nation created because it's not good for anything.
And in fact, that's what's going on in the CAR right now.
>>306721
I find it hilarious that Gaddafi was one of the biggest supporters of the African Union. He's so random.
>>306827
Wait, looked up the details. Apparently the kids were annoyed that they had to pay for costly new school uniforms. Supposedly, the uniforms came from a factory owned by his wife.
The students vented their frustrations by throwing rocks at Bokassa's car.
This did not end well.
>>306625
>Italy
>YES
>>306829
African Union is your friendly neighborhood dictator club in the first place.
>>306809
Bloodthirsty and ruthless, yes.
Crazy... well, crazier than other people mentioned? Debatable.
>>306895
He made wearing glasses a capital offense, because people who wore glasses probably read and that was too intellectual and dishonest for his new perfect regime.
He was completely fucking nuts.
>>307103
I believe Pol Pot's list of whacky offenses were:
>Receiving any kind of education
>Wearing glasses
>Being able to read a foreign language (Other than Cambodian)
>Being able to speak a foreign language (Other than Cambodian)
>Traveling outside of the country
Pol Pot received a university education in France which is what introduced him to Marxism. While in university he met several close friends with whom he would remain lifelong pen pals communicating with them in French, which he was fluent in. He was noted for his incredibly poor eye sight, which necessitated him wearing large glasses when he read French books of which he was an avid reader.
>>306829
he wanted to unite africa, guess that didn't work out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Mac%C3%ADas_Nguema
>banned the word "intellectual"
>banned boats
>banned western medicine
>gave himself the titles "Unique Miracle" and "Grand Master of Education, Science, and Culture"
>changed the national motto to "There is no other God than Macías Nguema"
>After killing the governor of the Central Bank, he carried everything that remained in the national treasury to his house in a rural village.[2]
>During Christmas 1975 he ordered about 150 of his opponents killed. Soldiers dressed up in Santa Claus costumes murdered them by shooting at the football stadium in Malabo, while amplifiers were playing Mary Hopkin's "Those Were the Days".[9]
>>307211
>>gave himself the titles "Unique Miracle" and "Grand Master of Education, Science, and Culture"
>>changed the national motto to "There is no other God than Macías Nguema"
That's pretty HC but i still thin that Idi Amin had WAYcooler titles. Not many men has balls to declare themselves as things like "Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas"
>>307211
Came to post based Nguema
This guy also did a bunch of hallucinogenics, and now his nephew runs the country
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Kim Dynasty, North Korea
Kim il Sung
Kim Jong il
Kim Jong Un
>>307787
they literally look the same
>>307794
>arr rook same
That is done on purpose. Sung was the genuinely popular one. So Jong il and Jong Un have carefully crafted their appearance to resemble Sung as much as possible. Jong Un was supposedly thin and in shape before picked to be the successor.
Ruled Haiti from 1957 to 1971 and took vodou waay too seriously
>modelled his public image on a vodou spirit
>named his paramilitary/secret police after the Haitian bogeyman
>Declared himself an “immaterial being” as well as “the Haitian flag”
>In 1964, he published a catechism in which the Lord’s Prayer was reworded to pay tribute to Duvalier instead of God
>Duvalier also held in his closet the head of former opponent Blucher Philogenes, who tried to overthrow him in 1963
>He believed another political enemy was able to change into a black dog at will and had the militia begin killing black dogs on sight in the capital
>>307142
Basically, he hated himself.
>>307838
Also promised to baptize every baby brought before him and he actually did it, the absolute madman.
>>306004
>>308212
No, but he hated the global empires that he took part in. Ho Chi Minh was a Marxist and used his exposure to the West as a tool to liberate and modernize the Vietnamese, whereas Pot used the momentum and imagery of communism in SE Asia to establish himself and create a primitive ethno-nationalist agrarian state outside of the influence of the global empire. Despite this, Pot took US aid in exchange for killing Cambodian communists and fighting Vietnam. Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge is one of the most bizarre episodes in world history.
>>308592
>Khmer Rouge is one of the most bizarre episodes in world history
I don't know man, Taiping rebellion was still pretty dope.
>>306625
Ah, the Italian Department of Yes.
>>308654
>Banished all the short people in Best Korea.
The things that people are actually willing to believe as long as you say "le Nort Goreans did it" is really phenomenal.
>>308592
>Despite this, Pot took US aid in exchange for killing Cambodian communists and fighting Vietnam.
The Cold War sounds like a Saturday morning cartoon in hindsight
>>306470
The joke is that they take pride in the idea that their "civilizations" had "kings" when in reality these were the same people who sold them into slavery and held back their development.
Why is there no video game where you play as a crazy african dictator? It would be a hell of a lot of fun.
>>309230
Tropico lets you play a crazy latin american dictator. Surely that's close enough.
>>309241
I like tropico, but no, it is not enough. Not until I can give myself bullshit titles and pass batshit insane laws.
>>309230
Might be too depressing.
>You've successfully initiated ethnic cleansing on an enemy tribe.
>Your UN shipment of food has been stolen by pirates, 10,000 die of starvation.
>Civil wars breaks out! Eat the hearts of children to grant immunity to bullets? (Y/N)
>>306761
Like the king of Spain and the italian republic.
>>309254
I'd enjoy that. I've played plenty of city building games where I make my people happy, it would make a change of pace to go all the way to the other end of the spectrum.
>>309261
Just play a city building game and make everyone miserable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtB2ZfVuLhY
>>306004
I wasn't aware Forest Whitaker is a modern leader.
>>306829
Attempting to unite shit was basically all he did.
>>309230
Dwarf Fortress.
>>306809
cambodian bernie is worth a mention
>>307142
not to mention his overall plan to turn cambodia into a medieval agrarian country
>>307780
He was an iboga addict, look it up.
His nephew also lucked out because the country now has oil wealth.
>>306829
He was butthurt that arab leaders left him so he went towards africa instead.
>>306004
What exactly did Amin do wrong? I can't really find anything other than "boohoo he killed 600,000 political opponents." The only thing that i see as objectively bad is that he kicked the Asians out of the country which destroyed the economy.
>>310554
Also, if anyone knows of any books on the man i would enjoy knowing the names.
>>310554
It's not about people who did everything wrong, it's about all around crazy dudes in power.
>>310554
I like how the guy in the back looks like he's trying to lean out of the back blast.
>>309218
>Refers to Zulu, Lesotho and Swazi kingdoms
>Sold their people off into slavery
Wat
>>308684
you're right, "banished" sounds way more ludicrous than "shot in public"
>>310554
killing thousands of people who disagree with you politically or have the misfortune of belonging to a different tribe is generally regarded as a bad thing.
>>307211
>During Christmas 1975 he ordered about 150 of his opponents killed. Soldiers dressed up in Santa Claus costumes murdered them by shooting at the football stadium in Malabo, while amplifiers were playing Mary Hopkin's "Those Were the Days".
That's pretty Scorsese
>>306625
>ISIS
Fooking terrorist.
>>309307
i came here to post this
>>306619
>and we're the worse for having elected him
In what ways?
Nixon isn't nearly as bad as people make him out to be, it's all propaganda to divert attention from the fact
A. Nixon signed in landmark legislation such as the EPA
B. Nixon effectively ended LBJ's war- Vietnam successfully, normalized relations with China
His legacy should overshadow LBJ's, Carter's, and others so naturally the left has to character assassinate him. This is especially necessary when the left was attempting to portray the Republicans as war mongers during the Bush Era while attempting to sweep away LBJ's and JFK's.
>>310554
>600k political opponents
>Nothign wrong.
Don't mind me, just rebuilding the Mongolian Empire over here.
>>311386
LBJ gets too much blame for Vietnam when it was really JFK's baby.
>>306014
>>306021
That ceremony was hilarious. Centrafrica is a dirt poor country and was practically ruined by it, even with Gadaffi's financial help.
Like, there were around 60 000 bottles of Champagne and French Burgundy wine, 240 tons of food (of which a quintal of caviar) prepared by French cooks, 5 000 attendees, 60 Mercedes had been imported for the transport of the most important guests, his crown was made of gold with a total of 7 000 carats in diamants on it, the dessert was a green, seven layered cake above which were released 6 doves, etc...
After the ceremony (of which the only foreign head of state attending was the Maurician PM), he paraded through the street of the capitol Bangui but not in car. Instead as the biggest Napoleonboo ever he chose a horse drawn coach gilded with gold and bronze.
The horses had been imported from France specifically for the occasion from a prestigious stud farm in Normandy but they weren't used to the local climate. And so hot was the temperature that day that two of them quickly died, enraging Bokassa and forcing him to use his limousine.
Must have been fun.
>>306853
Italia, SI! :^)
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>>307787
Man to think this loser of a son was gonna be heir until he got fucked by trying to sneak into disneyland tokyo.
>>306503
What? Nixon was actually a great president, I hate when people think he was awful just because he was impeached.
>HE LIED TO US
Every fucking politician and president ever is lying to you, Nixon was harmless
>>307787
why all of them are so fuckin fat? did they even lift?
>>310861
I think he's referring to what Afrocentrists usually refer to as their KAANGZ i.e. west African kingdoms.
>>312018
They are worshipped as living gods. I don't think they even lift the forks to their mouths themselves.
>>310922
>>311390
So far this board is proving to be "my subjective opinion is right lol. Morality trumps everything else." If you guys are going to comment give me a legitimate argument. Like when people talk about the Pinoychit helicopter rides the proper anti to people pro-helicopter is "well, were they actually socialist? Were they actually a threat to the state?"
Shouldn't this board be about being scholarly and not "i know one negative fact about something therefore it's fucking trash"?
I can't believe Saparmurat Niyazov hasn't been mentioned. This magnificent motherfucker
>renamed months and comets after himself and family members
>wrote an autobiographical book that everyone had to memorize if they wanted to get a fucking driver's license even. The book is a total piece of shit, of course.
>banished dogs from the capital city because "they smelled bad"
>banned makeup on tv anchors, because he said he couldn't distinguish males from females
>built a $12 million monument to himself, ostensibly, topped with a golden statue that rotated in the direction of the sun. He also built a statue of his goddamn book, which opens every day at 8 PM and plays a recording of a passage
Not much mass murder, though, so, that's good I guess.
>>312465
I agree with the dog part.
>>312465
Turkmenbashi is like your weird uncle in comparison to African warlords.
Also Turkmenistan is pretty rich with gas and oil and stuff.
>>310861
But the people who post this dumb shit on Twitter and what not have no idea what those words mean except for Zulu.
But let's be honest they Zulu weren't exactly a great civilization.
>>312390
Learn some fucking grammar and punctuation skills before you criticize us about not being "scholarly".
Sometimes you're moral relativist bullshit doesn't work in practice and we might want to hold a genociding dictator to our moral standards.
>>312465
>A 30-year-old engineer reported that "all [his son] learns is passages from the Ruhnama, and he has started telling me off because he has memorised more of the book than me"
>>309230
Have I got the game for you:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/57690/
>>309254
Reminds of this one time I played Tropico and did the following:
>cut everyone's salaries to $1/month (except for the heads of the military/police)
>raised rent to the maximum possible, forcing everyone to live in shantytowns
>did the same with all forms of entertainment
>switched all farm activity to tobacco production so that everyone would start starving to death
Despite all of this, I still had enough support to fight off the ensuing rebellion against my rule until retirement. Good times.
>>312390
Moral relativism, kids.
Not even once.
>>313696
I remember I had a rebel attack and I thought the people would be pacified enough for me to deport some of the crime bosses.
I then learned that uprisings and rebel attacks are two different things, and that if you let people have the right to bear arms, uprisings are a serious thing.
I managed to fight off both with my overwhelming number of guard towers, but out of the 800 people on my island, about 250 died in between the two back-to-back wars, triggering a massive depression.
>>311441
He must have been an aspie or something. His fascination with napoleon bordered on autistic.
>>312864
>Africa has no civilisations
>yes they do, *gives examples*
>t-they weren't great!!
I'm not even liberal and I find this goal post moving highly annoying.
>Forces almost all of the citizens of his country out of urban cities to pick rice in fields
>Calls it the Year Zero project to try to "turn back" Cambodian advancement to the dawn of man
>Kills like 1/3rd of his population in the process
>>314886
What the fuck are you talking about?
I never denied that Africa had civilizations, it's that dumbass Afro-centrists who don't actually know anything other than what Twitter tells them think that Egypt was totally all black people, their ancestors being kings means anything, and that they have to compensate for their lack of grandiose history.
The subsaharan civilizations, interesting as you and I may find them, were pretty shitty compared to any Asian or European civilization in pretty much all fields.
I literally never said anything contrary to you.
>>311782
how bad is it when your father is a dictator and you can not even get a good fake passport?
>>309218
In the same way Europeans made slaves out of each other, from Greece and Rome to WWII POWs? I don't see what's your point.
>>306625
The Italian Daniel Bryan
>>315284
Europeans don't blame slavery for all their failures and claim the world was in harmony before the black devil.
>>311383
Built a computer to post this
>>311782
what a dildo
>>315284
No, not in that way at all actually.
>>307211
>Born as Mez-m Ngueme, Macías Nguema was the son of a witch doctor who allegedly killed his younger brother.
Off to a good start.
>>315301
The last time blacks enslaved whites was in the 15th century (if we consider the Moors blacks), while the African slave trade only ended in the 19th century.
>>315251
Even better when NK is the #1 forger of US money.
>>315318
Why "it's not in that way"?
Africans enslaved other Africans in the same way Europeans enslaved other Europeans, period.
>>315344
>The last time blacks enslaved whites was in the 15th century
Actually the Barbary pirates were enslaving the whites as late as early 19th century.
Yeah they weren't "fully black" but there certainly was a black element in there, especially in those pirate/marauder crews.
>>315362
Chattel slavery is pretty different from regular slavery
>>315362
Because every one of their ancestors were slaves, it's the only reason they're here. They brag their ancestors were kangs and shiet when actually every one of their ancestors were sold into slavery by their kangs and shiet. It's pretty funny.
And the Romans enslaving millions, while a major part of European history, has left no visible effect on us, as an American of (as far as I know) Germanic/northern European descent, I can assume many of my ancestors went through slavery among other hardships but it doesn't have any bearing on me. It's also impossible for my ancestors not to have been kangs because there were so fucking many of them, it's not even special if you find out you descended from major royalty.
Also my surname is a knightly nobility title, it's pretty cool.
>He demanded that his, nearly illiterate, wife be made part of the New York Academy of Sciences and the Royal Institute of Chemistry.
>He built a palace so huge that today’s Romanian Parliament can only use 30% of it.
Whats wrong with communist dictators being such austists?
>>315567
The stairs in his palace are notorious for being difficult to walk up and down in because they were cut to fit Nicolae's tiny feet.
>>315254
Kim Il Sung wasn't a fat bastard when he was young,
>>315490
Actually the Britain and Portugal dominated and pretty much owned the slave trade past the early stage.
Why go through the native middle man when you can do it yourself and get all the profits as well as cutting the population on in that area down so it's easier to deal with later on.
>>306021
I wonder what's going through those guards minds.
>Just don't laugh and I won't be killed
>I hope there isn't a coup
>>306713
wow okay then
>>315567
>Whats wrong with communist dictators being such austists?
Because communists can't understand how the World works much like autists?
>>315605
Didn't do anything wrong desu
>>306503
It's Forest Whitaker
The craziest nigga to walk this earth
>>315837
>liberals literally think profit magically appears and isn't created through labor exploitation
>liberals necessarily create poverty and hunger for the sole purpose of decreasing wages as production increases and profits soar and then talk about "freedom" until their assholes bleed
>accusing anyone of not understanding how the world works
>>306004
Not to detract from the thread but that's from the movie, not actually Amin.
>>307211
shit my brother is training soldiers in this country rofl
>>315567
kek Trujillo tried to get his also nearly illiterate wife awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature.
>>315857
why are you so insecure in your 'superior' world view that you have to greentext even when people agree with you?
