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You travel back in time to 1850 America. You're allowed to bring up to three books with you, including textbooks. What do you bring, and what do you do with it?
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>>298321
1984 by George Orwell.

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

Das Kapital by Karl Marx.
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>>298326
what do you do with it?
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>>298394
I warn them about the evils of the future.
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>History of horse racing
>History of dog racing
>A guide to 1850's America
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>>298431
Nice try, Biff.
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My medical school textbook from 3rd year to teach these fuckers whats good

space and astronomy textbook to advance knowledge of the outside world

TiHKAL to introduce psychedelics just for lulz
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>>298447
i like where this anon's head is at.

>pic unrelated, but wondering where the white women at nonetheless
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>>298321
the bible
the book of mormon
the quran
nuff said
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>>298321
Book about California Gold Rush.
Book about survival guide
Book about natural disaster sites in 19th century.

Invest in prime real estate where gold is to be found, establish a gold industry.
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>>298321
>I'm black
>1850 America

Not sure about this, chief.
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>>298593
Why don't you just read these before you leave?
If we had time before we left I would write the plans and instructions to a fuck ton of modern day machines and procedures in three different notebooks and use this information to make money in the past.
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>>301408
guide on the construction of firearms

run to the north

suck people off for 10 years until you can afford to be a blacksmith or some shit

make gun

declare jihad on shit

Also bring the recipe to making hydrogen bombs as well because why the fuck not
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3 Playboy magazines and I'll be worshiped as the god of hellfire!
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2000 Times magazine
2005 Ebony magazine
2015 Rolling Stone magazine

Pretty much they will be scared to death
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>>298321
>Book of modern medicine and other essential sciences
>book showing the construction of the atom bomb as well as other schematics for military advance
>book of world demographics
Tbh the super xenophobic americans of that period would probably preemptively nuke india, china, africa and the middle east. And the ensueing future would be absolutely hilarious.
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>>302652
>China

Pretty sure the founding fathers spoke highly of Confucius senpai
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>>298321
English to Klingon.
Introduce Klingon.
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1. Rise and Fall of the Confederate Government, Jefferson Davis
2. From Manassas to Appomatox, Memoirs of James Longstreet
3. Grant's Memoirs

Give them to the Confederate government in 1860. Tell Jeff Davis to NOT make the mistakes outlined in his own book. Tell him to get the fuck over it and put Johnston in charge of all forces in the West. Give Longstreet's book to Lee. Tell him to fight defensively and cause Looneytoone casualties on the Union so they give up while the CSA can conserve vital manpower. Give him Grant's memoirs as a last insurance in case history repeats itself.

Bam, South is now a free and independent country. US never gets involved in WWI, WWII doesn't happen because no treaty of Versailles, Cold War never happens, etc. There are no longer civil rights issues in North America because the South will either segregate blacks or send them to a colony after slavery inevitably dies out. South America undergoes a golden age under Confederate control, they never have to experience the political upheaval of our timeline. Communism dies out after Stalin attacks his neighbors and looses to a Germany not at conflict with anyone else.

I just fixed the world with three books.
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>>304792
>de-centralized government

>strong

You do know what a 'confederacy' is right?
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>>298321

Easy.. become the mulatto concubine of a New Orleans planter...
There was value and exoticness attributed to my looks back then, not so much now. It's all about the asians now.
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>>305139
Oh yeah. Dunno what I want to bring tbqh. I like history. Maybe slavery should never be abolished though/and spurn the industralization

There, no flappers. No WWI
not as simple? wlel then
i am drunkard
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>>304792
>US never gets involved in WWI, WWII doesn't happen because no treaty of Versailles
versailles was a minor footnote compared to the effect of the great depression in the rise of the nazi regime and its ambitions
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>>304792
>US never gets involved in WWI

Near impossible. The question on people's minds was which side to join, not if they should get involved.
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>>305155
That's just not true, the Americans were oscillating between neutrality and allied support/enmity towards Germany.
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>>298321
What 3 books do I need to get high speed internet?
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>>305161
The Americans were going to support Germany, but since the trans-Atlantic cables passed through London, Americans only got the British version of whats happening, and that was a fuck ton of propaganda.
Public opinion shifted from pro-Germany to anti-Germany, and the only person who ever thought about neutrality was the president himself, against all opposition.
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>>304792
>South America undergoes a golden age under Confederate control
the fuck kind of retarded assumption is that?
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>>298321
[spoiler]I'm pretty fucked. A straight woman in her early 20s unmarried? So would probably disguise myself as a man for the time being and make my way to the old continent[/spoiler]

Probably do my own shit and try to not to interfere with History too much so the timelines are twisted. Secure a steady source of income and write a diary as a means of not forgetting where I hail from or petty things of the 2000s. Try to keep the diary secure and find a way that it may reach my family, so they could be aware that I did live a happy fulfilling life and that my dissapearance was not something overtly bad.

1. My 4th year medical textbook
2. Brideshead Revisited
3. Physics textbook, because the possibility of bringing the Doppler Effect to fuck up with someone's head seems hilarious
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>>298321
>So you've travelled to 1850: Everything the modern man needs to know to make the mid 19th century his bitch
>Universal foreign language to English dictionary
>1001 jokes to brighten up a rainy day

I use the first book to make the world my bitch

I use the second book to talk with people that don't speak American (savages and the French)

I use the third book for sensible chuckles
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>>298415
First of all, see pic related

Second

>the future
>communist manifesto was published in 1848
>it is a manifesto describing the already existing phenomena of communism

Your post is embarrassing as fuck in general, this is something a middle schooler would think of.
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>>301408
>>302597
This

+find John Brown and arm him and his fighters with said superior weaponry
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>>304792
>Put Johnston in charge of all forces out west
The Eggleton? Twojays no-heart Johnston?

It's like you want us to lose. Albert Sidney'd do a much better job if he could just prevent Fort Donelson and Zollicoffer fiascos. If A.S "the good johnston" Johnston kicks it again, give the command to Richard Taylor. Hell, give it to Forrest. Even Beauregard might do alright if you don't fire him after his first spa visit. (Dude's french, you have to make concessions.)
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>>304792
CSA faggot PLEQSE gtfo
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>>305175
That's... bewilderingly incorrect. Like, the entire post. From public opinion, which was mostly either uncaring or anti-German, to the only one supporting neutrality being the president. For example, you know what sizeable minority largely advocated for neutrality? Not for entry into the war on anyone's side, but staying out of it. German Americans.

See Kennedy's Will to Believe or May's World War and American Isolation or virtually any other book dealing at least remotely with American entry into the war.
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>>305246
>already existing phenomena of communism
Communism is the made up delusions of a rambling unemployed "german". It has no basis in reality.
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>>305262
>For example, you know what sizeable minority largely advocated for neutrality? Not for entry into the war on anyone's side, but staying out of it. German Americans.

Go to your local library and ask for german language newspapers from the period.
There is nothing neutral there.
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>>305263
I'm talking about how the Manifesto is literally addressing the EXISTING spread of communist thought in Europe at that time. Leftism, socialism, communism, they come from the French Revolution directly and were already happening by 1850.

But you're a massive /pol/ faggot and somehow assumed I must be communist just because I was pointing out how fucking poor your understanding of history is

Just go back to your muh whiteness manchild hugbox, you're not wanted here.
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>>305270
You are conflating supporting Germany and advocating entry into the war.
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>>305281
>I'm talking about how the Manifesto is literally addressing the EXISTING spread of communist thought in Europe at that time.
What spread? It was very much a fringe ideology in the 1850s.

>But you're a massive /pol/ faggot and somehow assumed I must be communist just because I was pointing out how fucking poor your understanding of history is
And he ousts himself as a butthurt leftist redditor... I'm not the guy you originally replied to you humongous faggot. I'm just pointing out your imbecility.

>Just go back to your muh whiteness manchild hugbox, you're not wanted here.
>IT'S 2015!
yeah fuck off to reddit or whatever shithole you crawled out from.
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>>305285
He's right man, go back to your hugbox if you're so incapable of engaging new ideas.
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>>305291
> you're so incapable of engaging new ideas.
>says the guy rabidly defending marxism
It's 150 years old and has NEVER worked. Just give it up already.
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>>305285

Oh boy, the back peddling after you get called out on your lack of knowledge. I am a centrist if you need to know to not get triggered

>it's 2015

Nice putting words in my mouth kiddo, I know it's easy to argue with le reddit strawman but that's not what's happening

>fringe ideology

Sure, but it had become popular enough that every fringe ideology and political opponent was accused of being communist.
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>>305282
You havent gone to your local library to read the newspapers and see how "neutral" they were.
German language newspapers and the english language Fatherland paper all supported joining on the side of Germany, as well as sending donations like coffee or clothes, buying war bounds, etc.
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>>305305
You are right, I haven't inspected every single German paper of the time (have you?) - but I have studied enough authors who have to realize the bigger picture was that of German Americans by and large did not support American entry into the war. One reason why was the backlash they experienced from the other prominent train of thought alongside neutrality in American society at the time - which was anti-German sentiment. Advocacy for American entry into the war on the side of the Central Powers was minimal and nowhere near your previous claim that public opinion - not just German American, but "public" - shifted from being "pro-Germany to anti-Germany". As a result of London controlled trans-Atlantic cable controlled propaganda, no less.
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>>305305
>>305320
If you want to read more about it, Luebke's Bonds of Loyalty explores this very same topic. Heck even the wikipedia article cites it and is well enough sourced - see the lead or the Public opinion sections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_entry_into_World_War_I
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>>305295
>says the guy rabidly defending marxism
My only other post in this thread was aboss ass plan of me taking over the mid 19th century and making 1001 jokes for the fine fine victorian ladies.
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>>305413
That was best post t.b.q.h my family
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>>305420
Gotta try to please that victorian puss and bitches love jokes.
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Some H-manga
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>>298321
1. Complete works of Albert Einstein.
2. Complete works of John Nash.
3. Complete works of Richard Dawkins.
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>>304792
>implying north america wouldn't be mired in constant conflict, assuming it doesn't become further Balkanized with more secessions
>Europeans are allowed use the Americas as another front in their geopolitical conflicts, including ww1
>Jim crow x 10 makes the south a global pariah, and That's even if the slave trade isn't revived (irl it continued illiegally until the confederacy died)
>the confederacy, an agrarian based nation, becomes another shit tier south american nation
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>>305172
>Handbook of semiconductor manufacturing technology

>Small Hydroelectric Engineering Practice

>The C programming language
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>>304792
>Dixielards actually want this
Just stop
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