How do you go from this...
...to this
Context is king in art history. Pretty much everything since the mid-1800s has been a direct answer to whatever came 10 years before.
There has been plenty of art in every genre in the 20th century, so it doesn't need to be an X vs Y thing.
![turner_sunrise_with_sea_monsters_1845_tate[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/i8rseqi.jpg "turner_sunrise_with_sea_monsters_1845_tate[1].jpg")
How do you go from this...
![138047-8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5eKwqb7.jpg "138047-8[1].jpg")
>>291748
...to this
>>291757
but that's shit mate
>>291694
Because we went from this...
>>291777
...to this
>>291770
it's realistic shit
Because contemporary art has taken originality to be its raison d'etre. I think Kubrick said something along those lines.
Whats wrong with making something elegant or beautiful?
Are there any prominent artists that still makes paintings like these?
>>292311
not deep enough 4you
>>291694
>>291697
Otto Dix is amazing
Basically it was the world war one that fucked up everyone's artistic perceptions of the world, no point in painting idyllic boring paysages when there so much trauma and horror around you
>>292498
There are some realistic looking paintings done of WW1
>>292529
>that
>realistic
>>292498
This. I really loved studying German Expressionism in high school, pretty cool stuff.
>>292346
I suggest Karl Kopinski, but a lot of his best known work is firmly in fantasy and sci fi, so be aware that not all of it is historical.
>>293200
What do you mean 'artistic standards'? Do you mean the idea that a painting is only worth how difficult is to produce?
I admire a lot of the art that the producer of the video respects, but I like modern art even more for what it does differently. Perhaps it's different for you, but when I look at the picture in the OP I have practically no reaction. It's pretty, and I like the use of color, but I've seen countless pretty winter paintings done just like it, and it comes off as boring despite its skill.
A lot of people who dismiss modern art as a whole come into it with the mindset that it's supposed to be equal to what came before it, when it's not. They get caught up with the fact that some abstract painting is worth a few million dollars without ever just looking at it and seeing how it makes them feel. Take pic related, for example. It seems to be nonsense by itself, but isn't it neat to look at? Aren't the patterns pleasing to the eye? One of the better aspects about abstract works like these are that you can interpret them however you please.
If this stands out to you in any way, just keep looking. There's a lot to like about what you dismiss, just give it a try.
>>293369
well put
>>293369
good post
>>292498
>Otto Dix is amazing
Fucking seconded. His work, the stuff focused on ww1 and its after effects anyway, is some powerful shit.
>>293200
As frustrating as modern art can be, all of artistic is ultimately subjective. Whether something is good or bad has always been a matter of taste and always will be. People have different experiences and preferences that shape how they feel about a given work of art. One person may scoff at 'Piss Christ' while another person might consider it a brilliant statement about religion and society.
>>293628
*all of artistic expression
>>293628
Yes, but at the end of the day, the Ghent Altarpiece is still greater work than piss Christ.
It takes a lot more devotion to do that than it does to stick a tiny plastic crucifix into a jar of piss.
While the messages may be subjective, the actual craft is completely objective.
>>293798
>muh manhours
here you go, one of the greatest pieces of art, because it took literally 1000 hours to make :^)
>>291792
So? If art's primary merit is realism take a fucking photo.
>>292498
I've always prefered classical art, but I like him. The wounded soldier one is very moving.
:^)
>>293369
I want to add that technically there's a lot of really cool shit going on in this Kandinsky. The usage of color is fantastic, most every color is paired and balanced with a complement. The background is not uniform and tends to subtly shift towards complimentary colors which more solid masses float upon. The linework is equally interesting, there is a juxtaposition of depth, the suggestion of a vanishing point by the lines around the bulk of the composition in the center right, and extreme flatness, i.e. the flat swathes of color and the painting's abstract nature. There is also a juxtaposition of energy and dynamism contrasted with the stable nature of the basic geometric shapes.
>>293628
Maybe in art, but that's complete shit to say that "good and bad" are merely subjective.
>>294957
Why do I find descriptions of works of the art even more pleasing than the art which they describe?
>>291697
dam nigga does titties!
>>295067
Yeah, it's a kitsch
>>292346
For some reason sticking your officers in front of the ranks seems like a bad idea when they open fire
>>295202
>le kitsch point
I want this meme to die
>>295220
>academism
>after the XVIIIth century
>good
pick two and only two
>>295228
It's called neo-classicism reeeeeeeeeee
But alright, take this mural from over 2000 years ago
>>294990
Because you're a verbal, rather than visual thinker.
>>291770
The point is that autists here almost universally see realism as some higher objective form of beauty and that art has degenerated from the romantic period into monolithically abstract contemporary art.
why do artists strap dicks and vaginas on literally everything they do
>>297772
Because Freud was right.
>>291757
>mfw I get that this is a modern icon. Literally.
>>291757
Cersei?
>>295067
No, if it was a fantasy novel cover there would be at least one sword, probably more.
>>293935
hi, karl
>>291697
This is amazing.
>>291757
Love it.
Except the second piece is so much more powerful than the first.
When you paint to emulate beauty or an imagined image you are setting limitations on the potential of your work.
The second work invokes raw emotion, it stirs, and creates awe. It is more powerful, and with it we gain a sympathy and a very personal touch from the artist.
The second piece is absolutely breathtaking
>>291757
This is the most beautiful thing. Its mother mary right? I might be misinterpreting it. But if it is holy shit.
>>291697
Bolshevism: not even once
Hourly reminder that Dali was the last respectable painter
>>297912
kek
>>299238
>meme painter
>good
how do you go from this...
>>300482
to this?
>>299238
He was the ultimate meme.
Jackson Pollock was a CIA shill.
Because of postmodernism. All you formalists and muh aesthetics plebians are literally too dumb to understand contemporary art history. Youre all culturally illiterate at this high level of inquiry. Start with Dada then Pop art then Performance art then now we're at an age of Post Irony and Net Art.
>inb4 everyone complaining about 'modern' art posts realist war pictures
>>293369
No it's not pleasing, it's shit that elitist retards enjoy to make themselves feel superior. It doesn't work evoke any feelings because no real feelings were put into it, it's just random crap.
It's shit, short and simple, and there are kids painting shit that is on par with this modern art of yours. It takes no planning, effort or talent, it is literally a waste.
>>294894
this
>>295215
Yes, but it was also the best choice since immediate tactical changes and assessments could be made. It also bolstered the resolve of your men far more than just being at the back and giggling like a schoolgirl while you watched ants fall down
>>303029
damn that shirt screams A E S T H E T I C S
>>303079
>I don't like it, so everyone that does must surely be pretending!
literal autism
>>303133
Image searched it to find out if I could buy it. I'm getting one.
>>293798
Who is this animu girl?
>>303029
is this vaporwave
>>305937
Vaporwave is an aesthetic movement which is subcategorized under the broad artistic movement Net Art. That piece is not particulary Vapowave
>>291697
I do not prefer the second image, but it is arguably a much better painting.
>>291694
WWI
>>291757
that's beautiful. now this is art that actually says something, that actually has a message that doesn't have to be explained to you by the artist or some asshole who spent 10 years and 100k for an art degree.
>>293369
Wasn't there a study where some art made by mediocre artists were given to a group of people being described as art made by some famous artist, and the group had to pick which pieces were better compared to the art from the actual relevant artist that was described as mediocre? Turned out that the shitty art told to be good art was picked over the actual "good" art from the popular artist.
Just goes to show "how it makes you feel" is bullshit as you can throw any interpretations that are meaningful to you onto some vague bullshit where that interpretation SEEMS to fit.
>>306717
net art is something that I feel I should have more knowledge of, being from the generation that I am and a browser of 4chan from when the userbase seemed to be a bit more confident in its own identity
kinda feel I've missed out
>>293522
This belongs in a museum. I feel that this piece shows the artist's anger or apthy towards modern conceptions of art and beauty, a longing for the return of classics and real effort.
>>293415
>>293441
>>293369
>>293628
Samefag
And this thread fucking sucks. Some asshole saying "why don't you take a photograph???" Because you can't fucking go back to Ancient Rome and take a goddamned photograph! You can't capture a moment of triumph in the Colosseum with a fucking iPhone! It's people like Samefag and the fucking hemorrhoid that suggested photography that give the fucking farce that is Modern Art the bullshit legitimacy that it had.
You assholes aren't even aware that Modern Art was a CIA psyop, are you? That it was a fucking joke. That it was propaganda. You, along with every dipshit limpwrist pantywaist that buys into this shit, have been fooled for DECADES. Now, while you digest this, tell me how groundbreaking it is to spray menstrual blood and shit onto a canvas with a coat hanger glued to it, and the "feelings" that first-grade level of Grand Expressionism changed the way you look at a Woman's Right To Choose.
You fucking mongoloids.
http://www.stuffyoushouldknow.com/blog/jackson-pollock-more-than-just-a-tool-a-cia-tool/
>>310367
>S-s-samefag
pathetic
