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What are the most famous real weapons, as in still existing today,
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What are the most famous real weapons, as in still existing today, in existence?
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>still existing today
Not /his/
>>>/k/
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>>279120
>as in still existing today, in existence?

Anon, I...
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Sword of saint peter, if real
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>>279131
How does surviving to present day make something non-historical?

>>279120
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven-Branched_Sword
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>>279131
They're famous because they have a lot of history and legend behind them. Can the Mona Lisa not be discussed on /his/ because it still exists?
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>>279120

Kusanagi no Tsurugi
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>>279157
>changing "Sword of the Gathering Clouds of Heaven" to "Grass Cutting Sword"
Who approved this?
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>>279183
I did.

For a joke.
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I could be wrong but I think this guy wielded the biggest 2-handed sword ever found.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pier_Gerlofs_Donia
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>>279356
They were battlefield weapons btw, used only in wars/battles, not 1 on 1 or by civilians.
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Braveheart's claymore sword is supposedly on display in a museum somewhere
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>>279389
That one is faker than Pamela andersons boobs though.
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others need not apply
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>>279151
Is it a pen?
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>>279356
>>279380
Grutte Pier was een kut Fries
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>>279157
T-totally. It's just too sacred to be shown.
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>>279429
mosin comes close though

damn those russians and their instruments of war
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>>279152
But it has 6 branches.
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>>279531
The tip counts as a branch too
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>>279380
Dueling weapons are usually bigger and heavier than battlefield weapons though. Fatigue is less of an issue if you're probably swinging it less than 5 times as opposed to having to have it out in an hours long struggle.
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>>279590
There's sources that state that he used it when boarding other ships.
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>>279152
> the sword was made of 100 times hardened steel

>teleports behind you
>unsheathes 7-branched sword
>cut you into seven pieces before you can react
heh
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>>279590
which is why that battlefield weapon being so big is amazing
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>>279627
>the sword was made of 100 times hardened steel
>mfw it's real
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Maybe the Ulfberht swords? They don't have any Arthurian legend behind them, but they're pretty cool.
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2400+ years old and still sharp as fuck, despite being found in an underwater tomb. The scabbard was almost completely airtight and kept the water out until its discovery.
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>>279731
noice
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>>279120

Claimed to be Charlemagne's sword Joyeuse, on display in the Louvre.
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What's the newest legendary weapon?

Is there a 9mm forged in the fires of Mordor capable of piercing heavens?
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>>279731
Sword not legendary.

It's wielder, King Goujian of Yue, or more particularly, King Goujian and his war with King Fuchai of Wu, was the famous one.
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>>279611
>>279631

I thought there was no mention of the giant weapons until the late 18th/early 19th centuries, and that they were likely fakes.
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>>279753

Sword of Godfrey of Bouillon, hanging in the Holy Sepulchre.
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Joyeuse probably.

Supposedly Charlemagne's sword, and the ceremonial sword of all French kings since the 10th century.
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>>279779

Henry V's sword, normally displayed above his tomb in Westminster Abbey, but here as part of the service for the 600th Anniversary of Agincourt.
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>>279775
pic from 1467 manual by Hans Talhoffer
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>>279809
Considering Pier Gerlofs Donia was born in 1480, I don't think that's him, or his sword.
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The "Spear of Destiny", the Lance of Longinus, Jesus was pierced by it, according to legend.
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>>279842
Oh you meant those particular 2. swords

In which case I started the original post >>279356 with "I could be wrong".

In general you should take non-sourced claims with a grain of salt, so could be either way. Source to the claims of them being fake?
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>>279859
I don't have a direct source, but Wikipedia states that two two images swords first surfaced in 1791, almost 275 years after the fact.

And given their resemblance to parade blades leaves me with more than a little skepticism.
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Is the Tonbokiri still around or is it a replica? Don't recall
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>>279904
That's a shame if they turn out to be fake, the idea of a giant soldier strong enough to bend coins just sounds cool.

.. and sounds fake, shit.
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>>279914
While we're at it, also the Nihongo.
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3500 years old
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>>279845
Wasn't that debunked. The weapon is to young if I remember correctly.
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Damn, when i see swords that are thousands of years old sitting in sterile glass display cases in a museum somewhere i just wanna take them and stab someone with them to let them taste blood again after all these years. Excuse me if that sounded super edgy.
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There's that sword stuck in a cliff that may or may not be Durandal
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>>279945
I'm not sure. It's still being kept in the Vienna Schatzkammer, though, and people have done a lot of shit to keep it safe, hide it, or get it.
It's a cool story, in any case.
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>>279120
I think some of El Cid's swords are on display, and he was certifiable bad ass. Don't know if any of them are the real Tizona, though.
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>>279953
Most swords you see in display cases/museums weren't actually ever used in battles; hence they survived thousands of years.
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>>279965
Yeah, i guess you are right.
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>>279945
>>279961
Nevermind, just reading through the German wikipedia and it mentions that the Lance was most likely created in the 8th century.
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>>279792
This. One of the British swords like Curtana might come close, but even if that Joyeuse is fake, it was used as a coronation sword for eight hundred years.

If Tizona was real, I'd probably give it the title, but I doubt the one on display's the real one.
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>>279845
There were several that claimed to be it. That is the last surviving one and it isn't real. (plus Roman spears didn't look anything like that)
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>>280722
Yeah, I know, see >>279983.
Shame about it, though, it'd be pretty cool.
My vote goes to Charlemagnes sword, in that case.
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>>280728
Ah. Is the Louvre Joyuese confirmed to be his actual one though? Because those pics don't look it.
Also I think Zulfikar (Ali's two pronged sword) might be from around the same time period. Pic related isn't the original one, but its kind of the same deal as Longinus' spear, lots of places claim to own the original.
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>>280833
I doubt it is confirmed, but it has been used to crown kings of France from Philipps III. to Napoleon, which is in itself quite a claim to legitimacy, I guess, but it seems to have been "assembled" in parts throughout the centuries, according to the Louvre.
>http://www.louvre.fr/en/oeuvre-notices/coronation-sword-and-scabbard-kings-france
Funnily enough, Joyeuse is said to have been made to contain the Spear of Longinus in it's pommel.
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>>280869
Not that surprising, the Spear of Longinus is like the post-Roman version of the Palladium
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>>279845
That's a fake. Rei Ayanami chucked the real one into lunar orbit after killing an Angel with it.
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>>280892
I know, but I find the idea of "mixing" relics amusing somehow.

>>280899
>implying it didn't come back to penetrate Usaka
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Isten Kardja, the Sword of Attila the Hun.

From Jordanes:

>"When a certain shepherd beheld one heifer of his flock limping and could find no cause for this wound, he anxiously followed the trail of blood and at length came to a sword it had unwittingly trampled while nibbling the grass. He dug it up and took it straight to Attila. He rejoiced at this gift and, being ambitious, thought he had been appointed ruler of the whole world, and that through the sword of Mars supremacy in all wars was assured to him."

>guys sheep cuts itself on sword
>THAT MEANS I MUST CONQUER THE WORLD
What the fuck Attila
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>>279131
Durrr

>>279120
Joyeuse
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>>279516
Well when they are built simple enough for conscripts, you know they'll be popular
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>>280969
this is a joke right?


....right?
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>>281153
Totally real.
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The real William Wallace sword. This sword is as tall as i am (I am fairly short. Scotsman's height)
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>>279963
La Colada is #8 One of the two swords said to have been owned by El Cid
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>>280969
>ambitious people are delusional

Is this really surprising?
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>>279963
>>280016
This is the La Tizona displayed on Museo de Burgos
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>>281266
Well no, but I feel like Attila’s overdoing it a little bit here.
"Burning cross in the sky leading me to victory" is okay with me.
"find old sword in the mud" is pushing it.
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>>279120
The false Joyeuse, despite there being no way it's Charlemagne's sword; it was part of the regalia of France since at least the 12th century.
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>>280899
I'm a Christian with an interest in arcane stuff like this but I had never heard of the Lance of Longinus until I watched that stupid anime.
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This bad boy is apparently in the National Archives.
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>>282128
story?
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This one is actually on display at the Ford's Theatre National Historic Site.
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>>282140
The rifle that was used to assassinate JFK.
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>>282148
>He believed the lies
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>>282155
I gotta say it was a good shot, hedshot from 100+ meters on a fast moving target
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>>282174
Also three hits on three shots in nine seconds at most.
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>>282186
Also innocent until proven quilty
>Unless you're Harry Lee Oswald
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There pistols used in the Aaron Burr vs. Alexander Hamilton duel were bought from Hamilton's descendenta by Chase Manhattan Bank in 1930 and are still maintained in JPMorgan Chase's archives.
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>>282205
>There
Meant 'The'
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This gun started WWI.

I'm not sure who owns it rn but it was rediscovered collecting dust in the possession of an Austrian Jesuit community in 2004 who was willed the gun by the Archduke's family some years earlier.
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>>281286
What about strange women lying in ponds distributing swords?
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>>282204
>Harry Lee Oswald
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>>282174
Wasn't the car at almost a dead stop when he was killed
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>>282240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q91RZko5Gw
No
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>>282246
I still wouldn't call that fast-moving
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My dick
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>>282219
It's in the Vienna war museum.
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>>282205
>were bought from Hamilton's descendenta by Chase Manhattan Bank in 1930 and are still maintained in JPMorgan Chase's archives
Why exactly?
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>>279753

>tfw you thought you saw the whole Louvre, including the Africa exhibit (empty) and missed the fucking armoury.
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>>281206

Doubt it. All popular Scottish history is a 19th century invention, made by nostalgics like Scott in an attempt to cope with mass emigration and atomised lives in a polluted, barren shithole for those that remained.
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>>282316
The Morgans liked collecting shit
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>>279356
pretty sure those are ceremonial
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>>279120
Well there's Charlemagne's sword.
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>>279983
I think it's more about the nail inside of the spear head, which is supposed to be a relic from Jesus' crucification
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>>282224
You can't expect to wield supreme power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
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>>282316
It's an investment. Same as how corporations buy up expensive artworks.
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>>283202
Yes, but that nail as well was proven to at least have never been used in crucifixion, because it was the wrong sort of nail, if I remember correctly.
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>>282350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHA1ufmLZQY
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Tizarona probably.
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>>279120

The Holy Lance, the weapon the pierced the holy flesh of the God-Emperor of Mankind as he was crucified by Horus Pilate on the hill of Golgotha.

DEUS VULT
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>>283593
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>>283593
>Horus not being Judas
C'mon.
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>>279945
The real one is supposedly kept by the Vatican.
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>>283593

DEUS VULT
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>>279965

Something about how blood corrodes shit super quick because acid and concentrated oxygen and iron
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>>279120
this one is pretty famous
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>>282174

Play JFK reloaded. It's ridiculous, bad physics, etc. but it simulated the shot, and how fast the car is going. It's an easy shot.

Oswald even missed once.

>>282174
>I gotta say it was a good shot,

He was a decent marksman in the army. This isn't his first time shooting.
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>>279120
Spear of Destiny comes to mind
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>>287866
>>279845
It doesn't take very long to atleast look at the images posted to see if someone already thought of the same thing you did.

Ctrl + f and "Spear of Destiny" would have been really fast, too.
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>>282106

probably because it's usually called the spear of destiny
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[spoiler] bind, Slicing Dragonfly! [/spoiler]
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How much of Fat Man and Little Boy survived the nuclear explosion? Are there shrap pieces collected somewhere?
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>>288270
>How much of Fat Man and Little Boy survived the nuclear explosion?
Are you kidding me? They're vapor, atomized, hell even a bunch of the component atoms underwent neutron activation and aren't the same no more.
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>>279483
Hah, did your ancestors get owned by him or something? I can feel your butthurt through the screen.
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Surely sword of Stalingrad has to count. The thing didn't cut down any men, but it's a symbol of a marvellous victory that turned the tide of a conflict and I've come to understand that it has been made with supreme craftmanship.
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>>282339
The Louvre is huge.
Took me 15 times to see it completely.
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>>279389
It is, but only in part. The hilt was far more recent, and the blade was forged using his sword(one handed sword the usual of its time) with other weapons to form what's on display
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The Sword of Simón Bolivar. Bolivar was the military commander who united the South American colonies against the Spanish in the 19th century and kicked them all out in the name of independence. Since his death, the sword has been in the hands of colorful personalities such as Pablo Escobar (the cocaine guy in Colombia) and Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez. Here in the pic, Chavez holds up the sword to the onlooking crowd to celebrate their independence day.

They also call their currency Bolivars in Venezuela. They really like that guy.

It may not be the most famous weapon in the world but EVERYONE in South America knows about it.
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>>279627
nothing personnel kiddo
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>>289616
fuck yu
that guy ruined my family
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>>289626

umad?

In fact, Chavez loved this sword SO MUCH, he had an exact replica made to give to Gaddafi as a gift for his great strides in pushing Libya towards Glorious Socialism Of the People.
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>>279356
>>279380
>>279925
This is not Grute Piers' sword. It is a bearing sword from approximately 1410-1430, of a type commonly carried at the front of parades through city streets throughout medieval europe on Saint's Days.
A pair of these, identical in form and side to the *two* (not one) which are attributed to Grute Piers are in the collection of the Royal Armouries, Leeds, and exhibited in the tower of London. They have been recorded in the collection since Henry V, in 1420. One of them is in the attached photograph here.

the two swords attributed to Grute Piers were found in the the attic of the City Hall of the city of Leeuwarden in the year 1791 - more than 250 years after his death.

the only connection to him is someone then said something like "that's big! it must have belonged to..."

That is the only connection.
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>>288463
>a bunch of the component atoms underwent neutron activation and aren't the same no more.

Explain?
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>>289530
>>281206
>>282350

Again, like the sword of Grute piers, this one's not got any connection to the historical figure.

as >>289530 says, the blade is 3 pieces, which have been forge-welded together. Several historians, most notably Dr David Caldwell, have noted that there "is a possibility" that one of the 3 pieces may in fact be contemporary with Wallace's lifetime.
the hilt and pommel, however, are clearly identifiable as lowland scots or germanic two-handed sword hilt parts from the early to mid 16th century, at least 300 years after Wallace's death.
More importantly, the sword only gained its attributation to Wallace in the early 19th C, when there was a mania for all things tartan and Scottish. Although there is a written record from the 16th C of "the wallas sword", it does not identify what sword is being referred to.

Even if the lowermost part of the blade is contemporary to Wallace, the odds of it actually being his are astronomically small.

Furthermore, there is a second Wallace sword, which has been in the private collection of the descendants of the De Morays (Andrew de Moray was the first Guardian of scotland, and was fatally injured in the Battle of Stirling Bridge) since the time of Wallace. Unfortunately, that one is also clearly a 16th C lowland two-hander...
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While Fat Man and Little Boy are completely vaporized, probably floating around in the atmosphere to every corner of the world, the planes that delivered them are probably sitting in a scrapyard or military museum, though I have no idea if people actually know they're the ones who did it.
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>>289626

That guy basically ruined the spanishphere. Southamerican independence was never a fight for liberty or something like that, just a fight for power and money while Napoleon was fucking spaniards as they were invaded.
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>>290005

And that explains why southamerican nations were always a failure. Countries made for rich people
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>>289977
>the planes that delivered them are probably sitting in a scrapyard or military museum, though I have no idea if people actually know they're the ones who did it
Both the Enola Gay(Hiroshima) and Bockscar(Nagasaki) are well-documented and are on display at the Smithsonian National Air and Space museum and the National Museum of the United States Air Force, respectively.
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>>279356
That's a big sword.
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>>287810
>Play JFK reloaded. It's ridiculous, bad physics, etc. but it simulated the shot, and how fast the car is going. It's an easy shot.
Will playing it put me on some kind of FBI watch list? Is it free?
Because it kinda sounds like that would put me on some kind of FBI watchlist
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>>289977
Just about every famous Aircraft is pretty well taken care of. A lot of Tanks too.


Unfortunately, the last of the Big Bertha's were sold for scrap in the 60s.
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8 out of 9 swords used by Muhammed are in Topkapi palace in Istanbul, with the ninth being in Cairo. The swords used by the first 4 caliphs are also in Topkapi, including Ali's badass scimitar.
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>>290036
>>291011
Well, I'm glad that mystery was solved.
I'll have to check them out some time.
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>>289694
That's how a nuclear explosion occurs. A small amount of matter is converted to pure energy.
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I saw the swords of David and Abraham in Topkapi.
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