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There is the only one empire.
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There is the only one empire.
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Have they stopped shitting on the streets yet?
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>China
>one consecutive empire
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>>274022
>>>/int/
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>>274011
>China is a single nation
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>>274011
The concept of the Mandate of Heaven really helps in mantaining the long term stability of a nation.
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>>274011
That's not really fair is it? If the wild massacres between dynasty changes don't count as the end of the Chinese empire, the British empire should be way older than that. Ottomanfags may also try to consolidate the Ottomans, Byzantines and Romans into one empire by that definition.
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>>274631
Divine Mandate existed as a concept in Europe and elsewhere also.
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>>274680
elsewhere meaning literally the entire world.
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>>274011
>keeping the chinese empire after the rovlutions and dynasty changes
>screwing up the roman and russian empires because 'muh consective dynasties' :^)
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>>274687
Yeah, pretty much
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>>274011
>t. Chink diaspora
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>>274680
>>274694
What's the big deal with 'theocracies' then?

I mean were the Franks a theocracy? Caesar Augustus was a god's son, and many other Roman emperors were gods, were they a theocracy?

What's our deal with theocracies nowadays?
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>>274711
Divine Mandate has a king, politician or nobleman ruling the nation with god's express permission.

Theocracies involve a priest or holy man ruling the nation, usually as an interpreter of god's will.

This difference is also reflected in the composition of the bureaucracy, and the prevalence of priests among the ruling class.
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>>274739
Was Byzantium a theocracy then.

I mean Justinian did a lot of those things.

I'm pretty sure Chinese rulers also interpreted Heaven's will too.
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the Kingdom of Egypt lasted over 3,000 years.

Egyptian Civilization had its inception, rise, climax, fall, and dissolution before Western Civilization was even a thing.
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>>274750
The church is subordinate in eastern christianity
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>>274750
No. Justinian was a political man with strong views on religion, but he was not a priest.

The machinery of Chinese statecraft was relatively secular when compared to full theocracies like Caliphates.

The Emperor was considered the Son of Heaven, but this was for the most part a ceremonial title. Only for the most part, and this does change during some dynasties.

There's a lot of overlap between divine mandate and theocracy, and the distinction comes down in large part to whether the bureaucrats are secular or clergy.
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>>274768
True, but lets not forget that it was pretty isolated to certain parts of north-Africa and the Middle-East.

Unlike the Greeks and Roman Civilizations which spread across the entire world, and which we owe a far greater debt to today.
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>>274011
>Rome and the Byzantines for some reason separated
>Empire of Rome for some reason starts at 0 when it clearly had an empire before if those other nations did (if we go by any definition that leaves the republic out, the non-roman based empires on the graph including china must go too)
>shit marathas and ajuran (literally who) but not actual significant indian empires apart from Mauryas, no persians and no egyptians or mesopotamians
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>Rome starting at 0
>Byzantium being separate from Rome
>But no, China is one consecutive state with minor breaks from 200 BC
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>>274791
>which spread across the entire world
>entire world
Uhhh wot?
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>Brazilian Empire
>2 emperors ruling a huge swath of empty jungle for like 65 years
>Empire
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