Hitler hated slavs more than he hated jews
>>269781
He said so several times so yes, I think it's safe to assume that he did.
Well, let me backtrack. He wanted to kill a large number of them and enslave the rest.
>>269781
Which is why he lost the war.
Hitler wanted to wage war against every "race". That's sort of Hitler and Nazism's whole thing.
He was heavily influenced by people like Hans F.K. Gunther and thought that races were people who had a common geist/spirit/soul. The "East Baltic" race was believed to be corrupted by the Mongol/Jewish spirit, so it wasn't really Aryan/European.
It's pretty fucking stupid, and his master race got literally raped the fuck up by the Slavs so it should be a good lesson in going to war because you believe some retarded quasi-religious nonsense.
>>269835
>I believe /pol/
>>269781
He wanted people to do it for him, namely agents of the German state and other NSDAP controlled state formations. In general, though, Europeans were more enthusiastic about killing people perceived to be Jewish than Slavs, even though more Slavs died than Jewish people.
The better question is who doesn't want to exterminate all slavs?
I mean spare Djokovic but the rest can honestly fuck right off.
>>269872
>killing off all those Czech and Ukraine qt3.14s
Literally gay tho
>>269843
>not a single thing about Slavs in the Nuremberg laws (only about Jews and Gypsies) since they were considered artverwandten Blut by the Ahnenpass and could be classified as Aryans
>allied with Slovakia from day 1 of the war
>allied with Croatia and Bulgaria soon after that
>all the Slavic Axis members treated just like another ally
>numerous high ranked Germans with Slavic ethnic origins (Globocnik, von Manstein, Skorzeny, Kaminski, von Schirach), never encountered a single problem
>2 (TWO) Waffen SS divisions populated specifically with Slavs, numerous other Slavs
>"Der Untermensch" pamhlet that often gets mentioned explicitly mentions Croatians and Bulgarians as an example of Aryan folk
>GP Ost which was supposed to "exterminate Slavs" according to Allies completely sparing the Slavic Croatian, Bulgarian and Slovak populations
All you got is that one Hitler's quote ("Slavs are born slaves") from the Table Talk which was probably doctored by Martin Borrmann anyway. There's simply no evidence for this shit, but it was needed as a justification propaganda to keep the Slavic countries under Soviet yoke after WW2.
>>269893
>allied with Slovakia from day 1 of the war
puppet state
>allied with Croatia and Bulgaria
puppet state(cro) and "not real slavs, just adopted slavic language"
>"Der Untermensch" pamhlet that often gets mentioned explicitly mentions Croatians and Bulgarians as an example of Aryan folk
>GP Ost which was supposed to "exterminate Slavs" according to Allies completely sparing the Slavic Croatian, Bulgarian and Slovak populations
see above
>but it was needed as a justification propaganda to keep the Slavic countries under Soviet yoke after WW2.
Mhm, the 12 million strong armed force wasn't what kept them under the Soviet yoke, it was "propaganda"
>>269902
Soviets never pushed for the nationalistic agenda, not early on anyway.
>cleanse russians
>cleanse Serbs
>cleanse montenegrins
>cleanse bosniaks
>cleanse polaks
>cleanse Czechs
B-but Hitler loved the slavs guiz!!!!
>>269893
Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944: Secret Conversations H. R. Trevor-Roper,Gerhard L. Weinberg
I'll get you more
>>269902
>puppet state
How does that disprove anything I said? Vichy France or Quisling's Norway were puppet states as well.
>>269911
>The Germans are not human beings. From now on the word German means to use the most terrible oath. From now on the word German strikes us to the quick. We shall not speak any more. We shall not get excited. We shall kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have wasted that day ... If you cannot kill your German with a bullet, kill him with your bayonet. If there is calm on your part of the front, or if you are waiting for the fighting, kill a German in the meantime. If you leave a German alive, the German will hang a Russian and rape a Russian woman. If you kill one German, kill another -- there is nothing more amusing for us than a heap of German corpses. Do not count days, do not count kilometers. Count only the number of Germans killed by you. Kill the German -- that is your grandmother's request. Kill the German -- that is your child's prayer. Kill the German -- that is your motherland's loud request. Do not miss. Do not let through. Kill."
t. Ilya Ehrenburg, Soviet propagandist. Published in 1944.
>>269917
>>269922
Hitler's Table Talk was explicitly mentioned in my previous post, it was composed by Borrmann who was notoriously anti-Slavic and wasn't published until Hitler was long dead.
>>269932
Oh, so that is why Stalin killed all the ethnic Germans in Eastern Europe in 45 and then destroyed Vienna and replaced the native population of East Germany with good slavs right? Get rekt.
>How does that disprove anything I said? Vichy France or Quisling's Norway were puppet states as well.
Were slavs aryan, or at the very least latin? No? Then they were fucked.
>>269932
>How does that disprove anything I said?
They did not consider them Slavs.
>Hitler's Table Talk was explicitly mentioned in my previous post, it was composed by Borrmann who was notoriously anti-Slavic and wasn't published until Hitler was long dead.
hitler dindu nuffin t'was all bormann and two other persons who forged hitlers words...?
He didn't want to exterminate every single Slav. Part of the population would be assimilated, part would be enslaved and part would be murdered. The Germans stole Slavic children to raise them as Germans and many never came back and never knew they weren't actually born Germans.
Hitler apologists can go fuck themselves. The Germans started deporting people from my country (Slovenia) to Serbia, initially just teachers and priests and later others as well. The deportations had to stop though, due to partisan actions. Their plan was to depopulate Carniola and Lower Styria and settle Germans there. Of the remaining Slovenes, part would be resettled to the north and assimilated and the rest would become a minority in their land.
And just to remember, we were supposed to be better off than most Slavs.
>>269951
>Were slavs aryan
According to official German documents, they indeed were. Ahnenpass SPECIFICALLY mentions Czechs and Poles as an example of Aryans.
>"wherever they might live in the world" Aryans were "e.g. an Englishman or a Swede, a Frenchman or a Czech, a Pole or an Italian".
>>269962
I don't know why I'm even debating you. You have your own warped fucked up retarded mindset and nothing short of a full frontal lobotomy will change it. Fuck off.
>>269969
>stop mentioning evidence I disagree with REEEEEEEEEE YOU ARE STOOPID
Get fucked.
>>269962
>According to official German documents, they indeed were. Ahnenpass SPECIFICALLY mentions Czechs and Poles as an example of Aryans.
Uh, no, it means that Czech citizens could be Aryans, not that Czechs as a ethnolinguistic group are Aryans.
>>269951
>replaced the native population of East Germany with good slavs right?
Do you even know what happened to Königsberg, Narva, Posen, Danzig, etc? How can you willingly be this ignorant? How many Germans do you think live in East Prussia nowadays?
>>269984
>not that Czechs as a ethnolinguistic group
Well it says Czech and not "German living in Bohemia".
>>269995
weren't those places within the newly established borders of poland, meaning they have nothing to do with the fate of germans in eastern germany
>>270000
Shit get.
>>270000
Yes, it says Czechs because Czechs could be Aryans - if and only if they had "German blood". Which, again, does not make the entirety of the largely Slavic people Aryan...
>>269972
>fabrications of nazi apologists
>evidence
/pol/, not even once
>>270016
(also there were some three millions of Czechs as in Czechoslovak citizens who were in fact ethnic German)
>>270016
Especially not those unclean vermin at Lidice and Lezaky,
>>269890
okay
Kill off all the men
Save women and use them as our slaves
better?
>>270007
"Eastern Germany" used to stretch all the way to Memel and Königsberg, those areas did indeed undergo a mass replacement of native populations.
>>270009
The US. How is this relevant, did you hope to strike me with ad hominem?
>>270024
Lidice was a war crime for sure, but it wasn't "an ethnic cleansing of the Slavs." It was a revenge for assassinating the Reichsprotektor, similar thing happen in Kalavryta in Greece.
>>270022
No, there weren't, the Sudetenland were incorporated into the 3rd Reich in 1938.
Didn't stop Germany from taking over the rest of Czech lands (so-called protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia) which had something like 5% German population.
>>270034
>not wooing and then marrying a qt Slav girl
Why was the NSDAP so scummy /his/?
polish people arent even slavic.
>>270022
Those people wouldn't be referred to as "Czechs" in German documents, dumb fuck.
>>269781
This is what Hitler wanted to do with Slavs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost
>>270036
>ad hominem
Oh, no. I would have bet it was the US, most of you Angry Chaplin fanboys hail from there. Anyway, suck a dick, whatever. You shame your grandparents memory, if they fought in the war
>>270055
>no Croats
>no Slovaks
>no Bulgarians
>>270044
slav girls are literally trash tier
qt on the outside, money grabbing whores on the inside, like all western women
>>270048
>>269893
>slavs
>aryans
Only since 1943, when all went to shit and Germans needed all possible help - they tried to make more people join ROA.
>>270059
First, I'm not even a nazi. Second, I'm not calling you a "Stalin fanboy" or something just because you happen to disagree with me.
>>270062
I know this is supposed to be the autism site, where fat neckbearded virgins gather and hate wymyn but GOD DAMNED, I'd bet not even crack whores would suck you off for food coupons if they haven't eaten in 3 days.
>>270061
Those nations had only insignificant territory compared to what would be colonised by Germany
They were faithful puppets until 1944
>>270068
>NSDAP apologist
>not a Nazi
What? How does that even work?
>>270070
Then what the fuck are you doing here?
Fuck off back to reddit or wherever you came from
>>270075
>>269932
>published in 1944
Ha-ha. Actually it was published in 1942.
>>270066
They were indeed Aryans from the start.
The nazis didn't use the term Aryan as a synonym of "German" like it's commonly believed, but as a term for non-Jewish native European peoples. Which includes Slavs or Italians.
>>270062
>qt on the outside, money grabbing whores on the inside, like all women
Fixed.
>>270059
>t. pure 1/88 German mustardrace
>>270086
In 1943 all slavs but poles were considered aryans. Then why would germans kill so many civilians and think of an Ost- plan?
>>270074
>correcting misconceptions resulting from 70 years of propaganda makes me a nazi
You really contribute a lot of valuable input to this thread.
>>270062
>I will marry this girl from a poor country just because of her looks because I am ugly boring twat wwo cannot get a woman to fuck him without paying her
>W-why didn't she love me for who I am? A pure Germanic woman would have never left me!
>>270061
>Generalplan Ost
>Ost
croatia, bulgaria are to the south
>>270086
You are just digging yourself deeper and deeper aren't you? Post again only when you struck oil or dinosaur bones.
>>270101
>spouting unfounded revisionist bullshit
>correcting misconceptions
>>270109
NOT A NUH-TZY
>>270098
The GP Ost also mentions Estonians and Lithuanians who aren't Slavic in any way yet spares countries that are demonstrably Slavic, so calling it a "genocide of the Slavs" is quite a bit of stretch. Not to mention the supposed documents were reconstructed from scratch by Allied lawyers and relied on the grand total of one testimony. There was a lot of similar horseshit at the Nuremberg Trials, Soviets trying to pin the Katyn massacre on the Germans, for one.
But all in all, we can observe that the common denominator of the populations Germans committed atrocities against was just one: they were the enemy.
>>269781
who wouldn't?
>>270126
>they were the enemy
Every place they conquered was considered the enemy. So... kill everyone, I guess?
>>270126
How were Estonians, Lithuanians or Ukrainians the enemy?
Hitler applied the most brutal colonial policies against other Europeans
>>270098
Nuremberg laws were passed in 1935 and they said nothing about the Slavs.
>>270131
>So... kill everyone, I guess?
Considering how badly the Germans goofed by mistreating populations that were original happy to be freed from Stalin that statement might be truer than you might think.
>>270135
You may say he was gonna King Leopold the entire planet.
>>270135
>How were Estonians, Lithuanians or Ukrainians the enemy?
>Ukrainians
Ukrainians were completely fine when Germans arrived and the atrocities in Ukraine only started after massive Soviet partisan operations in the area. So yeah, enemy.
>>270098
>all slavs but poles were considered aryans
>the slavs furthest from subhuman central Asia are somehow the least Aryan
Russian ultranationalist detected
>>270055
>wanting to almost completely wipe out the poles
>letting half of the russian population alive
for what purpose? what have the poles ever did to him?
they're good at fighting and very brave people
>>270119
>>>/leftypol/
>>270150
That document is an Allied forgery.
>>270150
There were plans for complete colonisation of the whole Poland. Russia is just too big
>>270150
You just answered your own question.
>>270150
Probably payback for stealing Prussian clay.
>>270146
>Ukrainians were completely fine when Germans arrived
Nice meme, just because some western Ukrainians welcomed the Germans at first it does not mean they were "completely fine" with it.
> the atrocities in Ukraine only started after massive Soviet partisan operations
Other way around, soviet (composed of Ukrainians) partisan operations were a result of German atrocities.
>>270150
As pointed out: >>270156
The general idea for Russia was to run it Indian-style, where a majority Russian/Slav population would be ruled over by a German elite and killing was mostly the subjugate and reduce the population to a controllable size.
Poland on the other hand was sitting on Rightful German Clay™ and they wanted to be 100% Germany.
>>270151
>hating the NSDAP = I MUST BE A LEFTY
Not everything is black and white fag. Except your mom's sex life.
>>270155
>Generalplan Ost is a forgery!
>Protocols of the Elders of Sion are genuine
It would be interesting to study what's happening in the head of a /pol/ack
>>270137
Name a single Soviet population that was "mistreated" before partisan operation commenced. Belarus was hit the hardest and not coincidentally, the highest amount of partisan activity happened in Belarus.
We did the same in Vietnam where entire civilian villages got wiped the fuck out because they were suspected of aiding the enemy insurgency. It's unfortunate and it is indeed a war crime, but it doesn't mean we were out there to "exterminate the Vietnamese race."
>>270183
Americans weren't planning to colonise Vietnam though
>>270177
>Protocols of the Elders of Sion are genuine
Holy strawman Batman.
>>270043
>No, there weren't, the Sudetenland were incorporated into the 3rd Reich in 1938.
The A-pass was issues for years before the annexation of Sudetenland.
>>269835
It's literally in Mein Kampf. He said he wanted to use British India as a model for a German Russia.
>>270172
>Nice meme, just because some western Ukrainians welcomed the Germans at first it does not mean they were "completely fine" with it.
Read the German accounts of how people treated them in Ukraine.
Oh wait no I forgot, German accounts must be 100% propaganda while Soviet accounts are the only credible source.
>soviet (composed of Ukrainians) partisan operations were a result of German atrocities
Well memed.
>>270063
poles are majority nordic dna. culturally slavic, but around only 40% slavic dna.
>>270202
>kill a large number of them and enslave the rest
>implying this happened in British India
>>270216
And culturally?
>>270187
So what gives? You're saying Germans wanted to depopulate an area because the locals stood in the way of colonization and not because they were Slavs.
How come Hitler's Slavic allies were completely unharmed?
>>270218
>implying this happened in British India
>implying it didn't
>>270224
can you read?
>>270229
>How come Hitler's Slavic allies were completely unharmed?
>allies
Kind of answered you own question there senpai. Keep in mind this is the same guy that preached Nordic racial superiority in one hand and allying with a bunch of 5'3 Asiatics on the other.
>>270231
Brits were actually the ones who banned Slavery in India.
>>270238
Well
>all Slavs are subhumans who need to be enslaved or exterminated because of their race
>if you ally with me, you're completely fine
Those two statements do not compute.
>>270241
It wasn't a happy, peaceful place either though. Crushing rebellions and rebel states could get quite brutal.
>>270213
>Read the German accounts of how people treated them in Ukraine.
Talk about meme's, read >>270172 again you dumb retard.
Germans treated the local populations worse than Stalin, this is why you had upwards of 100 thousand partisans operating in Ukraine by 1943
Pic related, you meme loving fuck
A History of Ukraine: The Land and Its Peoples
>Did Hitler really want to exterminate the Slavs?
All Slavs? No.
Lots of Slavs? Yes.
Exterminate most of them? No.
Use as slave labor? Yes.
>>270246
>crushing rebellions
Like what they were supposed to do, pull down their pants and take it without resisting? You're honestly equating defense with racial exterminations and enslavement.
>>270245
This might be baseless speculation on my part, but I always got the impression that Hitler wasn't as obsessed with hating Slavs the same way he hated Judes and Gypies, he just considered them "in the way" of Germany expansion and wanted to justify why Germans should step over them.
>>270258
Like I said, it all comes down to "being an enemy" rather than some racial nonsense.
Hitler bitched about the Czechs in Mein Kampf because he witnessed them cheer for Russia during WW1 even though they were Austro-Hungarian citizens.
On the other hand he was completely alright with the Slovaks and dished out lots of praise for them since they were 100% aligned with German interests.
This is completely different from his attitude towards Jews which was nothing but virulent, obsessive hatred. So a post like this >>269786
is obvious bullshit.
>>270245
It's more like
>slavs are subhumans who need to be ebslaved or exterminated because of their race
>if you ally with me, we'll come up with a theory on how you're not REALLY a slav but rather a germanic/turkoman/wendisch/etc.
>>270284
>slavs are subhumans who need to be ebslaved or exterminated because of their race
Considering this was never an official policy and is mostly derived from some Table Talk horseshit, I think my statement is more accurate.
>>270287
>sources which I dislike are horse shit
>ignore the millions of slavic slave labourers in Germany pls
>>270287
>Table Talk
>horseshit
>>270281
>On the other hand he was completely alright with the Slovaks and dished out lots of praise for them since they were 100% aligned with German interests
He didn't say anything at all abot Slovaks, because with the population of 2 million and mountainous territory with a lack of resources they were completely insignificant
t. Slovak
>>270294
>not one public statement condemning the Slavs or any official racial policy on the matter
>the chief racial scientists of Germany (Gunther and Rosenberg) never racially condeming Slavs
>numerous Slavic allies and Germans of Slavic extraction in the high nazi brass
>BUT NO, LOOK! HERE'S A QUOTE FROM THIS BOOK COMPOSED OF WHAT HITLER SAID AT SUPER SECRET MEETINGS TALKING TO THREE GUYS, THIS IS WAY MORE CREDIBLE. HE WAS ALSO A MUSLIMBOO, A PAGAN AND A HOMOSEXUAL BTW
>People may be heard speaking of a 'Germanic,' a 'Latin,' and a 'Slav' race; but it is at onceseen that in those lands where Germanic, Romance, or Slav tongues are spoken there isthe same bewildering variety in the outward appearance of their peoples, and never anysuch uniformity as suggests a
race.
>We see, therefore, that the human groups in question -- the 'Germans,' the 'Latins,' and the'Slavs' -- form a linguistical, not a racial combination.
This is a straight quote from the book of Hans F. K. Günther, if you even know who he was.
>>270345
No one cares faggot. You completely disregard everything anybody else says, while continuing to make your own points, then get butthurt that what you say is ignored. Fuck off.
>>270367
>faggot, butthurt, fuck off
You're the master debater I see.
>>270345
>numerous Slavic allies and Germans of Slavic extraction in the high nazi brass
Already provided sources on how they were not REAL Slavs according to the nazis.
>>270379
Yeah well according to Günther, there isn't even such a thing as a Slav race.
So much stormnigger butthurt in this thread.
>>270461
>Abba
Money, money, money...
>>270322
>Zo Slovenska nechcem ani piaď zeme. Tu sa musia Slováci uplatňovať a rozvíjať po svojom: národne, kultúrne a hospodársky. Ručím za plnú samostatnosť a garantujem hranice Slovenska. Historické hranice Slovenska sú a zostanú navždy nezmeniteľné. Nad Slovenskom držím ochrannú ruku a nikto na svete nesmie kradmou rukou siahnuť na územie Slovenska, na Slovenský štát, kde Slováci budú žiť plným svojským životom.
>Slobodu a nezávislosť Slovenska ochraňuje sila 200 nemeckých divízií. Naším jediným cieľom je vidieť túto krajinu (Slovensko) a jej národ zdravý a silný a dať mu nezávislosť, autonómiu a štátnu suverenitu.
I don't speak Slovak but google gave me these quotes and translated it sounds like nothing but positive things.
>>270248
From which book is this?
>>270248
This book doesn't give any credibility without proper citation
>>270062
more like: qt on the outside, emotionally unstable nut on the inside
>>269893
Hitler wasn't even racist, you see, there were a bunch of black people who he put to die in battle for Germany, so he clearly accepted them.
>>270256
>invade a country
>place yourself as leader
>the people want their country back
>they start an uprising
>you brutally murder them
"defense"
>>271169
>Hitler wasn' racist
>>271227
>not knowing the right of conquest
Go young fortenbross of Norway and take the polaks lands
>>271301
>Might makes right
>except when ubermenschen are targeted
>than aggressors are savages
>>271248
>Literally had the most racially diverse army of WWII
Less racist than the American's with their token black cannon fodder brigades.
>>271314
He made that army out of desperation, not for some noble cause
>>271313
When did I say such thing?
>>271325
Even when he took different ethnicities in his army, he always made sure to put some pseudoscientific reason to prove that they were semy aryan or some shit.
I mean you have to be retard to even discuss this
>>271339
>he always made sure to put some pseudoscientific reason to prove that they were semy aryan or some shit.
Aryanism is a meme, and proofs?
170,000 half jews and jews were in the army
>>271427
That's not true, firstly the number is inflated and secondly nearly all Jews were removed from the army.
>>269835
>What is Generalplan Ost?
>>271427
There was 5-6 million men who would serve in the German Wehrmacht. 170,000 could not even be considered statistically significant to any degree.
And the shit source you are quoting from is half and quarter jews.
>>271339
The Slavs were Aryan according to Nuremberg laws. A German could freely marry a Slav and not be subject to any penalties. The debate should end right at this point. There was no need for some half-assed pseudoscientific justification if they were considered Aryan at the first place.
I actually think it was the other way around, Russians were labeled "Asiatic savages" because they were enemies. Gunther wrote entire books about how the Slavic Russians were originally of Nordic stock but got eventually overwhelmed by Mongoloid and Fennic blood, similar with the Poles and the supposed intermingling with the Jews (Poland used to be a safe haven for Jews for centuries and housed the biggest Jewish population in Europe).
so tldr
Your position - Slavs were considered subhuman, and allied ones made into non-Slavs by propaganda
Correct version - Slavs were considered Aryan, and the non-allied ones made into Asiatic by propaganda
>>271503
>I didn't read the thread
>>271227
>Implying the British didn't act as a stable 3rd party between the bazillion Rajs
Reminder that there were 100k Brits for 300 million Indians. Not exactly the kind of manpower that allows you to conduct mass genocide and violent repression.
>>271557
Thats why they had allied tribes and mercenaries with them, busting out the pith helms only when necessary.
>>271468
>that's not true
Yes it is.
http://www.jewishmag.com/158mag/hitler_jewish_soldiers/hitler_jewish_soldiers.htm
>>271572
B-b-but the evil Brits! What do you mean it was Indians killing Indians???
>>271227
>a country
Which country? Sovereign India wasn't even a concept until the 20th century.
In fact they colonized a ten gajillion microcountries and somehow kept them from genociding each other like they've been doing for centuries.
>>269781
They are like "villeros" in Argentina.
>>271169
>Hitler wasn't even racist
>>271314
>Literally had the most racially diverse army of WWII
the Red and the British armies would like a word with you
Some would be exterminated, some would be relocated, some enslaved.
Of course it would depend on post-war conditions. Situation forced Nazis to use some Slavs (though Croats and Bulgarians were seen as more non-Slavic), and later as war went bad that only grew.
But I laugh how /pol/ retards want to use this as a proof that Nazis didn't want that.
Bro, more Slavs died from Nazis than Jews. Germans were agressors many times in past too.
Outside of some loonies and fringe groups, to an average Slav Nazis are literally pure evil.
Who the fuck are you trying to convince? Do you think we're retarded?
>>274690
>to an average Slav Nazis are literally pure evil
Depends on the nation.
>>269829
No, he did not go to war with every race, he actually explicitly said that especially in regards to the Japanese and the Anglo-Saxons.
>>275006
That's Jesse Owens you philistine.
>>270241
>brits banned slavery in India
>literally allowed slavery to continue
>actually started indentured labor when it became tenable.
fuck off anglo shit
>>271604
>t. churchill
also all famines in british India are a lie and everything was alright in the raj.
>>271339
Any quotes on this matter? I'm curious how he could justify africans in his army.
