/his/ where is the urheimat of the Japanese?
Where the hell are Japanese and the Japanese language from?
All I know so far is the Jomon were an Ainu-like people who got pushed further and further north by the Yayoi
The Yayoi fought in Chinese style with mass spear infantry, and brought rice cultivation.
From googling, people have said the Yayoi were either Buyeo/Goguryeo Korean, a Vietic tribe who had contact with the Chinese, or a mix of both.
Yayoi are probably pro-chinese sailors from early on before china was established
>>264744
Bunch of gooks invaded and raped to death a bunch of white-skinned abos. The end result is grorious nippon.
Altaic was popular in the past but I don't much people support is these days
>>264761
>white skinned abbos
there's a reason japan is darker than korea and northern china you know
>>264744
they were a tribe of korean stock. an offshoot that bred with the neanderthalic ainu
>>264787
It makes most sense, considering their language. It's world apart from chinese. while it has a lot in common with altaic languages, at least grammar wise, i don't know if they have any vocabulary in common.
>>264787
If anything I thought it's gaining more steam?
>>264744
Jomon lived in Japan probably for tens of thousands of years.
Their ydna shows an ancient connection with tibetans but autosomally they are no longer related to any special degree.
Many like to assume Jomon are related to Abos based off their teeth having sudadonty but truth is most asians had this tooth structure before migrations of later asian groups like the yayoi.
Yayoi and other sinodanty groups are probably related based on similar ydna.
>>264794
>japan is darker than korea and northern china you know
[citation needed]
>>264744
From my knowledge, I think the most widely believed theory is that Chinese bronze-age technology was brought to Japan by those seeking refuge from the Qin unification's legalist practices, possibly through the Korean peninsula. Regardless, there is a definite contact with the Chinese in regard to language; though the ancient Japanese had their own language, the written script was Chinese until onnade was developed (I believe this was called man'yogana) . Onnade was considered woman's script until several important texts were written in it, namely Tale of Genji and the Tosa Diary.
>>264820
>i don't know if they have any vocabulary in common.
Well if it counts for anything...
Japanese "kokoro" - heart
Proto-Turkic "kögüŕ" (modern Turkish "göğüs") - chest
>>264761
The meme about the Ainu being white came from european armchair anthropologists misinterpreting the accounts of ill-informed sailors. The Ainu at the time were lighter skinned than the Japanese, but only because most Japanese, as sailors and farmers, were /very/ sun-tanned, and the Ainu lived further north in the forests of Hokkaido and Sakhalin/Karafuto.
Without environmental factors, the Ainu were quite a bit darker than the Japanese – and taking into account the fact that they aren't pure Jomon, but rather the contact culture between Jomon and Okhotsk (and to a degree, Yayoi, if their ancestry includes the migration of the Emishi), it can be assumed that the Jomon were even swarthier.
It is true that they had some "Caucasoid" features, but these were just retentions (non-epicanthic eyelids) and shared innovations (heavy body hair), kind of like how some Siberian populations independently developed brown hair.
>>264889
Hence why I said "abos"...
>>264820
From what I've read from linguists the similarities between Japanese and central asian languages are superficial at best. The Altaic hypothesis might have SOME merit if they'd just let go of including Japanese and Korean.
>>264889
If you read his post again I dont think he was assuming that they were Caucasian like some people do.
He was calling them like Aboriginals(australian ones a presume) with white skin.
>>264900
they didn't have white skin though.
>>264898
Korean and Japanese are almost 100 percent related, I can tell that by my own ears, even mongolian. They are probably very distantly related to turkic languages but genes wise I'd say the Japanese are different story then their language tells
>>264906
I was reiterating what he said for you to understand
>>264831
Well I saw a post on /r/linguistics a while ago saying that in the 90s it's main proponents stopped supporting it
>>264906
>>264910
this. korean honestly sounds like a more complex japanese with much heavier chinese lexicon.
there's almost no possibility the two aren't related.
>>264910
Again I'm not an expert in the subject at all but most linguists seem to regard Japanese as a language isolate and while it's similar to korean typologically they're genetically unrelated.
>>264867
"Kokoro" is a great example of onomatopoeia, being the sound of a heart pumping. Not exactly a member of the class of words you'd want to use in comparing languages. With this logic I could make an argument for Latin or Greek being Altaic, based on the example of "cor" and "kardíā" – if we didn't have related languages to compare against, as with Japanese, we could argue for any number of sound shifts to arrive at the desired etymon. We do have Ryukyuan to compare against, but it's too close to provide much real insight, giving only "kukuru" (which nevertheless complicates the matter, forcing proto-Altaic to yield ö and ü, then o/u and o/u, from the same root, which doesn't seem to mesh with the Altaic cornerstone of vowel harmony).
>>264910
Language families are determined by grammatical syntax and internal logic not phonology. Japanese has a high degree of phonological similarity to Germanic and Romance languages relative to other east Asian languages, but this is not a relevant coincidence as the grammar structures couldn't be farther apart.
Jomon Japanese were /fa/ as fuck.
>>264931
The isolate theory is growing more outdated as time goes by.
I think it's just a matter of time now. There are too many similarities in typology, grammar, etymology, and that's not even getting into the genetics and archaeological material.
>>264969
>The isolate theory is growing more outdated as time goes by.
proofs?
>>264969
What is a common sentence structure in the Korean Language? I'm willing to bet that most similarities can be accounted for by the Chinese influence on both Korean and Japaneses.
>>264987
the particle system and word order they both share have nothing to do with chinese influence.
>>264895
>>264900
I know, but it's a common enough myth that I wanted to address it before someone came along and started posting about it.
>>264919
This man is hardly representative of a "pure" Ainu phenotype. See pic related for somebody closer. The Ainu, as a distinct group, no longer exist. Almost every surviving member of the group has heavy Japanese or Russian ancestry, and so looks the part. A modern Ainu man basically just looks like a Japanese man with thick eyebrows and a fat nose – which isn't uncommon in the Japanese.
Curly hair, beards, bushy eyebrows, aquiline noses and "round" eyes are surprisingly common in Japan, and are indicative of the people's Jomon ancestry, which they share with the Ainu.
I've heard the Jomon/Ainu described variously as negrito, australoid, and proto-mongoloid, and honestly none of the terms quite fit. They appear to have been their own highly distinct ethnos, with their own particular phenotype.
>>265012
explain to me the particle system and word order of the Korean language please. I'm currently learning Japanese and would like a comparison.
>>264987
Not that guy, but I'd actually bet Chinese influence is actually where the two diverges. Both languages use a lot of loan words from Chinese but Korean pronunciation is generally much closer than Japanese IIRC.
>>265024
>particle system
exactly like japanese, korean uses markers attached to the end of a noun to denote what relationship it has to other nouns and the verb, like subject, object, preposition, etc.
>word order
also like japanese, korean uses SOV, intermixed with particles for relationship clarity.
i'm not an expert on korean nor a linguist, but here's an example.
>i love you
>JP: watashi ga kimi wo aishiteimasu
>watashi (I) ga (subject particle) kimi (you) wo (object particle) aishiteimasu (verb)
>KR: naneun noereul saranghaeyo
>na (I) neun (subject particle) neo (you) reul (object particle) saranghaeyo
>>265103
oh i also wanna add that they both have various levels of politeness speech depending on the speaker's relationship. korean doesn't have anything as extreme as a special dialect for addressing the emperor, but it's heavily present. confucianism i guess.
>>265024
SVO with particles 는 or 은 denoting subject, others denoting object/place/time/type of counted thing/state of being/etc. Very regular syllable stress with every word having stress exclusviely on rirst syllable. All verbs end with 다 as the suffix in root form. Formality in address denoted by pronoun and modified suffix on the end obejct word/verb.
Source- i teach english in korea, attempting to learn it.
>>264744
Probably the southern edge of Korea, considering Japanese-like toponyms there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaya_language
>>265132
Welp i mean sov
>>265132
who's your favorite kpop
>>265119
Actually it technicaly does, its just only now used for the pope. Theres also one just for heads of state, and one other that used to be philosophically brotherly used by poets that got connotations of authoritarianism due to dictators using it, so it isnt used now- although hipsters sometimes speak in it recently. Apart from that theres about 3/4 degrees of formality and a plain book form.
>>265103
I'm a real beginner with the language, but I believe it is
私は貴方に愛してています。
Watashi wa (actually ha) anata ni aishiteimasu
I to you bring love.
I don't really see how post-positions make it the same language. Does Korean also have Kanji?
>>265194
>Does Korean also have Kanji?
Different guy here. Hanja(Chinese characters).
>>265194
you can use ga as well actually. wa is the topic marker, technically, not just the subject.
i only used ga to match it exactly with the korean neun, so they would both be subject particles.
korean has been using its own alphabet since the 15th century, abstracted from kanji radicals and representations of the mouth, formed into syllabic word blocks. they still use kanji on rare occasions, but it's largely irrelevant and certainly not necessary.
>>265162
Maybe sai. Need to try it more.
Also as a general note, holy FUCK they hate the japs. They would go apeshit about any theory saying they were related.
>>265219
I get the impression that the Japanese, Korean and Chinese hate each other with passion.
>>265219
>mfw Korean horserider theory
>>265242
I think there's been a thaw between the Chinese and Japanese. There definitely is a lot of tension.
>>265242
Koreans don't hate the Chinese.
t. gook murkkan
>>265242
the best part is that the japanese have literally no reason whatsoever to be mad at koreans, since they have been the aggressor 100% of the time in the past millennium.
>>265242
Yeah. Living here, I really do get it. The japanse were murderinv rape monkeys. All the paalaces in seoul were burned by them, theyre literally all 1970s reproducitons. Appwrently in japan thheres also a giant mound thats still there but taken off maps called the mound of ears. Korean ears, taken as trophies. Its apparently fucking huge. Also now called the mound of noses despite definitely being ears because japan somehow thinks this is better.
>>265282
muh takeshima, muh rocks
>>265283
Sorry the spelling sucks, on phone and its 4am
>>265288
Oh yeah you say anthing other than dokkdo they lose their shit as well.
>>265282
That applies with them to China too unless you count the Mongol Yuan invasions which are a huge stretch.
>>265301
Its also noraebang not karaoke, and something i forget instead of sushi. Both of which KOREA INVENTED AND FILTHY JAPANESE STOLE.
>>265282
I remember in /int/ some ""Japanese"" guy used the example of the Korean contingent of the Mongol Invasions as proof of LE ANCIENT KOREAN AGGRESSION AGAINST JAPAN
Which is fucking nuts, its like hating a guy who is forced to do crime at gunpoint
>>265308
weebs are something else, man.
>>265301
They teach em that early
>>265308
Racially its quite a striking difference between korea and everywhere else as well. Im 6'1 and only a couple of inches above average for a guy. They waaaaaay taller than chinese and japs, except for the old people who are tiny due to malnutrition growing up
>>265308
/int/ """"""""Japanese""""""""" probably aren't even real. I remember one claiming Japan never ever lost a war, claiming the Mongols were absolutely destroyed by samurai folded 10000 times, the Imjin War was a Corean fabrication, and somehow completely forgetting they got nuked in WW2.
>>265326
Dude my second question from an 11yr old was 'do you think dokdo korea?'
Third was 'teacher increee hark. (Incredible hulk. I lift.)
>>265329
I hear Northern China's getting pretty similar to Korea in height actually.
>>265308
There's always that one "japanese" poster who talks nonstop about how great Korean women are.
>>265348
Huh. Id be inclined to think similar steppe people genetics but interesting.
Also fuck me the women are hot. Hot fucking prudes.
>>265357
Remember, sexuality is taboo as fuck there, so that means the kinkier they'll be in the actual bedroom.
I mean for fuck's sake, making and distributing porn is illegal and the citizens consider some kpop videos "porn".
>>264744
Is it possible that the Japanese language was developed by people ethnically similar to the Ainu, who were subjugated by Korean horsemen a la the Anglo-Saxon conquest but kept the language a la Normans?
I know that most Japanese people have Southern Chinese ancestry, so there were likely multiple periods of settlement.
Because they speak a Tunguscic language, is it possible that the modern Ainu language was a recent arrival from Siberia?
>>265391
The guys also all act like western virgins in their early 20s. They have no idea what to do around women, and they NEVER have female friends. Its freaking wierd. Ive met so many i thought were gay who legitimmately gay who arent, because they have oddly effeminate masculinity, eg guys troking each other while drunk, holding hands as friends, etc. They take out all their need for female contact on male friends. Though of course being gay iss FOREIGN DISEASE PROBABLY INVOLVING JAPANESE SOMEHOW.
>>265430
The thing is, gayness has almost no presence whatsoever in Korea, especially with the huge rise of Christianity in recent years, so they wouldn't even think twice that being touchy-feely with another guy is gay. It's like, "we're so not gay, that we can act blatantly gay, because the concept holds no meaning to us."
>>265512
Why did Christianity get so popular in Korea? Especially when compared to Japan, where it's dead in the water.
>>265518
I think the church did a lot to help out post-WW2, plus lots of opportunities to proselytize.
>>264761
>raped
Stop this meme. While sexual abuse accompanies most conquests in some quantity, intermarriage is much more likely. It's what happened in Anglo-Saxon Britain, it's what happened in South America, it's what happened in the newly Islamic Middle East, and it likely happened in Japan.
>>264794
Huh? From my experiences Korean and Japanese people are equally pale
I've only met one north Chinese person, and she was really pale, but I would think that thousands of years as one empire mixes up internal genetics a lot. I'm sure you can find Cantonese-looking people whose ancestors have lived in Jilin for centuries.
>>264910
wow what a fucking expert
>>264969
A language can be an isolate but still have much in common with its neighbors due to proximity and migration.
Saying "Korean and Japanese are genetically related" is actually a huge commitment. You must show that the two languages were once the exact same, but diverged over time.
>>265242
AFAIK relations are cordial between Koreans and the Chinese
I'm sure Europe was the same way in the 18th century
>>265308
That's fucking hilarious
>>265767
Some Japanese are related to Koreans, but those are probably the ones in the southwest near Korea. And even they have Jomon, Malayo-Polynesian, and possibly Han Chinese and a dash of Tungusic/Mongolic.
The northern Japanese are a mix of Emishi, Ainu, and probably Siberian tribes from long ago.
>>265982
Fuck this chart is the most retarded thing I've seen today
>>264744
Well those curvy characters are native to the islands, and those straight characters are Chinese imports.
>source
>a Jap qt I knew in college
>>266033
Why?
The genesis of the Ainu culture, dominant cultural influence listed first:
>Ainu = Satsumon + Okhotsk (Nivkh/Orok, neolithic Siberian maritime)
>Satsumon = Emishi + Zoku-Jōmon (late Hokkaido Jōmon)
>Emishi = Yayoi + Final Jōmon
The Emishi, rather than being a Jōmon hunter-gatherer relict population, were essentially a northern derivation of Yayoi culture. They were equestrian and agricultural, and within an archaeological context clearly descended from Yayoi, even though they constituted a separate ethnos from the Japanese.
In terms of material culture, the Ainu are arguably closer to the Yayoi than to the Jōmon, although they retained much more influence of the latter than the Japanese did. Contrary to popular belief, they were agrarian, though not on the mass-scale of the Japanese. Many aspects of their culture are identical to that of Japanese Matagi hunter villages, though the nature of the influence is not known.
"Yayoi" is often misconstrued to mean Yamato or Japanese, in a racial sense, when in reality the culture outpaced them demographically, spreading from Kyushu to the northern tip of Honshu before the Yamato people even existed as such. An easy parallel is that of neolithic Europe, where agriculture spread from the Near East faster than genetics, or at least in disproportion to genetic influence.
Yayoi itself is a composite culture – salient influences in material culture are the native Jōmon and peninsular Korean cultures like Mumun, in addition to a vague (though influential) population from the area of the Yangtze. Toponyms that appear to be Japonic have been identified in the southern tip of the Korean peninsula, indicating a shared linguistic heritage, but many hallmarks of Yayoi (and subsequent Yamato) culture seem to come from south of the Yangtze. Additionally, many aspects of non-agricultural life, as well as religion at large, appear to have been derived from the Jōmon. There clearly was no singular origin for the Yayoi.
>>266141
but are they white?
>>266114
>Nostratic faggotry
>Austral faggotry
>Boreal faggotry
>filled with obscure families/isolates in random places perhaps because the authors needed to put them somewhere and thought that nobody will notice
>>264867
Sometimes these are just coincidences.
Japanese "namae" - name
English "name" - name
Hiragana ゆ - "yu" sound
Cyrillic Ю - "yu" sound
>>264744
READ THIS:
http://aryanism.net/culture/aryan-race/aryan-diffusion-part-1/
THE YAYOI MIGRATED TO THE JAPANESE ISLANDS FROM CHINA, BEFORE THAT, THEY HAD COME FROM THE ARYAN URHEIMAT IN SOUTHERN CENTRAL ASIA.
>>266153
I know that this is a meme question, but I'm too autistic to not respond.
Had the Jōmon survived as a people into modern times, they would likely have been considered their own separate race – at the very least, they would have constituted a unique genetic cluster within East Asia.
They were sundadonts, which means that they were part of the larger Asian continuum before they were isolated. Sundadonty evolved into sinodonty in populations north of Indochina and Taiwan, so the Jōmon were cut off before that change occurred. If we assume they had Y haplogroup D, as some studies suggest, this would further the idea that they had been isolated for a very long time.
If the Ainu and Japanese inherited their many peculiarities of phenotype from the Jōmon, even "watered-down" by significant NE Asian (in the Japanese) and Siberian (in the Ainu) influences, then they would have been a very distinct people.
It's impossible to say whether or not their skin was fair, as there are too many factors obscuring it now. Even with the Ainu there appears to be a great deal of variation in natural skin tone, some very pale while others very swarthy, and with the modern reduction and mixing of their population it's likewise impossible to say how much of it is "native."
>>266210
Apparently "na mae" means quite literally "front name," in the sense of someone's given name (odd, as the surname goes first).
>名前 na mae
>名 = name
>前 = front
This is new to me. I always thought it was a Chinese loanword, but these are the native (kun'yomi) readings of the kanji, so it's pure Japanese.
>>266233
Take your meds
>>266172
Where would you have put those "obscure families/isolates"?
>>266392
Nowhere. They're called "isolates" for a reason.
Also lumping language families at all is wrong, because in most cases it's impossible to show a relation between any families.
>>266340
OP here.
So, the Vietic austronesian hypothesis was correct. I'm half Japanese and I tell apart Koreans and Japanese right away, we look way too different.
Japanese like Genki Sudo have this very obvious Southeast Asian admixture despite being 100% Japanese. It would also explain our height.
>>264744
Southern/Southwestern Korea prior to a unified Sam Han identity.
>>266860
The Jomon population became isolated after the split between East Eurasians/Melanesians but prior to the North/South East Eurasians split
Jomon ancestry peaks in the Ainu,it can also be found amongst the Ryukuans and Japanese but not outside the archipelago.
>>266808
Ok, so you think that Korean shouldn't be there because it's isolate?
>>265264
no tensions have been really bad the last 5 years or so.
they thawed a lot during the 80s and 90s and 2000s, with some misshaps here and there, but ever since the drunken fishing captain crashed into the JSDF ship shit been going down
China has like an 8% approval rating among the Japanese population
>>266141
> in addition to a vague (though influential) population from the area of the Yangtze
That would explain why early Japanese would claim to be descendants of Shaokang/Wu Taibo
Does this mean the Japanese are the least racially pure Asians? Would that seem hypocritical to nationalist Jap right-wingers?
I'm Chinese and I've always considered Japanese to be the descendants of Koreans, it makes sense linguistically and by, well, just looking at their faces.
>>266808
i just don't think the concept of "isolates" is tenable.
the only possible way for a language isolate to develop would be that the speakers, as a group, must have been completely cut off from every other group out there, and the isolation would have to have happened before human language even began.
if that's tenable at all, then it certainly wouldn't be among the japanese or koreans, both of which we have very clear evidence of their origins.
>>267469
"Racial purity" really doesn't exist. Nearly all populations are mixed, some are less obvious because neighboring populations happen to look similar.
AFAIK most Japanese right-wingers assert that Japan is a "unique mixture" of mainland and indigenous peoples. The popular thinking in Japan is that earlier Jomon people were conquered by a wave of Yayoi immigrants from China or Manchuria (BUT NOT KOREA!!!!!!!!!!), whereas the reality is a lot more complicated.
Much like Britain, Japan is an island which has been populated by various peoples who assimilated into one broad culture. The Yayoi, for instance, certainly don't represent the only Northeast Asian lineage of the modern Japanese people.
How similar is Japanese to Polynesian languages? To me Japanese has always seemed quite similar to languages such as Maori.
>>268050
In addition to the Yayoi and Jomon there was definitely a third group that settled on the southern islands at some point. It's why some Japanese can look almost Malaysian.
>>268086
>Maori
>DINDU NUFFIN
They aren't fucking similar in the slightest you shitcunt
The Japanese are sinodont mongoloids that speak an Altaic language and are similar to Koreans. Seeing that Koreans are more similar to the Chinese than central asian t*rks or mongols, there was probably are race of Altaic speaking northern Chinese people influence by mongols that went to korea and japan then diverted from there.
>>266860
The Austronesian hypothesis (as an explanation for the Japanese language) has very little actually backing it, although it is a pet favorite of certain linguists. The vague influence from the Yangtze, or just south of it, is just that – vague. We can identify certain cultural peculiarities from it, and from them assume that it had significant influence on the incipient Yayoi, but that's about it.
It would be premature to say that the culture was Austronesian, especially since archaeologically the link would be tentative at best (other archaeological cultures within the general area and period have been suggested as potentially proto-Austronesian). In terms of Chinese and Japanese historiography, there's nothing to suggest that particular identity over any other. In fact, traditional Japanese accounts of their ancestry suggests that this "vague influence" was actually Chinese in nature – claiming descent from King Taibo of Wu would place them right at the mouth of the Yangtze (and the emergence of Yayoi would roughly coincide with the collapse of Wu).
You could certainly take it as a possible route of Vietic influence, on a cultural scale, but you would have to find justification for it elsewhere, as on its own it does not evidence that.
>>268189
>speak an Altaic language
re fight me
>>265308
then there was also this
>>264987
chinese sentence structure is a lot like english, and japanese and korean in their most basic would be like:
<Hector is rice to eat do> while chinese is Hector eat rice.
>>265518
Christians helped a lot during the war, also the Koreans saw it as a way to say fuck you to Japan since Japan was anti-Christian.
>>269734
>chinese sentence structure is a lot like english
English without tenses that is.
>>267481
What? It's a very popular case when one family replaces the other and tgere is only one language left. Also you have to keep in mind that in pre-modern times, most of languages were grouped into little families, which could very easily be eradicated (take New Guinea or California for example)
>>269553
Raises a good point though, why are SKoreans so shitty despite working like fucking dogs.
>>270817
Because everything they do is just the epitome of slave labour, doing everything master tells you to do and never having an originel thought in your life.
Korea or Corea?
>>271160
KKKorea
>>264744
>From googling, people have said the Yayoi were either Buyeo/Goguryeo Korean
Um no obviously the Japanese were created by the Kami and have always existed, the Koreans are just mongrel offshoots who had to be brought up to civilization (and even then have still not taken to it) in the last century by the ethnically superior Japanese.
>>271174
pretty meh desu
>>269553
>implying there are actual Japanese on 4chan
Most Japanese can't speak English if their lives depended on it. And they wouldn't go to an English board because why would they? Japanese like to stick with their own kind.
>>271470
*tips rasengan*
>>271160
Reminder that Koreans think spelling it Korea is a Japanese conspiracy to make Japan appear above Korea on alphabetical country lists.
>>264889
They don't look much different from some native americans.
Based on Alexander Vovin, the foremost historical linguist of Northeast Asia of our time, has said that the language ancestral to Japanese originated from the central and southern part of the Korean peninsula (note: not KOREA) that was far different from modern Korean as well as the Koguryo, Puyo, Silla, and Paekche languages based on local toponyms found in the southern and central part of the peninsula
He also found some evidence linking that an extinct language spoken on Jeju, the small island southwest of Korea, with Japanese based on some cognates.
If you try to base it off the idea of Koguryo and Puyo horseriders, that comes from Beckwith in 2007, which you can ignore all together as his theories have been discredited
>>268189
>t*rks
Okay, what's the deal with this asterisk? I see it all the time.
here's all the info you'll need
>>273493
http://www.scribd.com/doc/217635534/Koguryo-Tamna-Vovin#scribd
Here's the paper if anyone's interested
>>273493
>horserider theory
>altaic turkic theory
I fucking hate retards who believe this
Have you ever seen a single Korean that looked like this?
>>273914
>wog
>western euro
>australian abbo
>arab shitskin
>>273857
Vovin is anti-Altaic, he proposes a sprachbund of languages in a common region that influenced each other for thousands of years, which I think makes the most sense.
Maybe Turkic and Mongolic are connected genetically, but not so much Tungusic along with Korean and Japanese. But, you know Mongolic was heavily influenced by Tungusic, but you can't prove a common ancestor. Tungusic also heavily influenced Korean, but they weren't exactly horseriders, but semi-pastoral hunters and fisherman with basic knowledge of agriculture.
It was only after being influenced by the para-Mongolic Xianbei and Khitan that they took up horseback riding. Those people weren't horseback riders from the beginning
>>264744
What about the people who live on Okinawa?
>>272122
Since when do Native Americans have facial hair?
>>273920
I don't know who that guy Egami is, but Beckwith discredited himself in a following book for some new theory. He also has some other pretty wacky ideas I can't remember from the top of my head, so he isn't very reliable
>>273976
>What about human trash
wwwwwwwwwww
>>273976
They have more Jomon blood than the Yamato
>>273994
self-hating ameriburger okiwan-kenobi halfie detected
>>269553
Wait, don't South Koreans have the smallest dicks in Asia? Who's he to call Japan small?
Anyway, that was hilarious.
>>274021
お前は何を言ってんだよ
>>274040
I have a feel Japanese is only a bit thicker because all those Jomongos must have thick aborigine penises
>>274069
Are Abos even big dicked? I feel like they're surprisingly average.
>>274127
>not thinking about reproductive organs every day
What's next, you aren't studying the clitoris right now?
>>273914
Holy shit, the second and the last one could seriously pass off as either Portuguese or Spaniard.
The emperor of China sent a clan of people to search for the elixir of life. They never returned, settling somewhere on the island of Japan.
>>274040
>Falling for internet memes that easily...
This is why propaganda works...
No. Koreans don't have the smallest dicks in Asia.
Korean-penis.blogspot dot com
But keep believing what you want if it makes you feel better about yourself.
>>274272
Found the Korean poster.
You should be studying.
>>274343
Yo dawg I heard you like memes...
Study? Pschh. I'd rather contemplate suicide because of my 23 hour school schedule and my botched plastic surgery. Gonna finish this refreshing glass of poo wine and roasted dog meat, then I'm gonna turn on the electric fan and go to sleep. Goodbye world.
LET ME DROP YOU SOME KNOWLEDGE BOMBS
Anyone in this thread ever had the thought that a lot of Japanese features (Hair, face) and colour when working hard under the sun reminds you of native americans?
And natives from pretty much any other country that shares similar geological features.
No?
Consider yourself knowledge bombed.
>>274460
duh
>>274238
Yeah I think the Yayoi were those 3000 Chinese that went to Japan in 210 B.C.
>>274460
not that native american. a part of the root goes from northeast asia, but the bulk of native american ancestry come from central siberia
it isn't knowledge unless you reference it unfortunately
CUZ WE WUZ QINGZ N SHIET
>>264925
There's no cognates among the native words, though, or there's a very small handful of words that might _possibly_ be cognates.
>>269803
Eh, they make up for it with aspect.
>>274503
>Homo erectus
>still alive 200,000 years ago in Africa
Weren't the last ones struggling in Asia?
