Who was the greatest female ruler?
1. Victoria
2. Elizabeth II
3. Catherine the Great
Wait, I meant Elizabeth I. Number II hasn't really done anything of significance.
what about Matilde of Tuscany?
Louise XIV of France
Undoubtedly Catherine the Great, turned Russia from a backwater second rate power on the edges of Europe into a westernised state and one of the dominant powers of Europe for the first time
Victoria didn't do much directly, power was already in the hands of parliament by her time, even if she had more influence than royals now.
>>26326
What was good about Catherine the Great. She murdered her crazy husband then coonquered some land. And whose life got improved by that? Her and her lovers only. The country remained a shithole only a bit bigger shithole.
>>26907
wasn't it Peter the great who turned Russian into a major european power?
>>26992
Both weren't that great to be quite honest. Peter was in love with the west and as a result some of his reformes were hilariously bad. Also I have mixed feelings about his military "successes".
Empress Theodora
>>26992
Peter was important, but Russia wasn't formally recognised as one of the 'great' powers until Catherine.
Margrethe the 1 was pretty cool.
>>26257
she wasn't a leader or anything close, but Laskarina Bouboulina was a badass motherfucker with a cool name
>born in a turkish prison
>took over husbands shipping business, warship, and fortune when he died
>turks hassling her boats, so gets russian protection, convinces fucking turks to lay off
>smuggled arms and spent her fortune for the greek independence struggle
>made a female admiral in russian navy after she dies
Queen Berenguela:
>Daughter of Alfonso VIII of Castile and Leonor of England.
>Recognized as heir when a kid.
>Married Alfonso IX of Leon, one of her fathers rivals, becoming a beloved queen consort.
>Forced to left her husband by the Pope returns to her fathers House.
>Still recognized as queen works to keep her son in a good position to suceed his father, and sends him to learn the royal business from the Leonese king.
>After his parents dead, Alfonso VIII and Leonor, is recognized as guardian and regent of Henry, her brother.
>As the elder royal woman, plays a key role in the royal funerals.
>Maneuvered agaisnt the powerful Lara family during the minority of her younger brother.
>When forced to reliquish the tutorship of the young king, she maganes to kept her influence in the key business of the realm.
>Reclaims her son back from Alfonso IX to her when hears about Henry I demise.
>She forces the kingdom to recognize her as the queen and owner of her father and brother realm.
>And associates her son, Ferdinand III, to her rule to avoid any discussion about her gender.
>She remains in charge, pacifying the land
>Finally, obtains the formal Papal recognition of her offspring from Alfonso IX as legitimate.
>Blockades the attemps of Alfonso IX of looking for new potential heirs for his kingdom
>When Alfonso IX dies, she enters into Leon with her son, through the cities that she had received as dowry.
>Thanks to her influence most of the recognize Ferdinand III as king.
>Negotiates with Theresa of Portugal to secure that Alfonsos daughter from Theresa would not try to claim anything from their half-brother.
>With the Castilian-Leonese realm deifintively united she keeps developping the realm.
>The Reconquista continues, Castile and Leon definitely becames the leading Iberian power.
>She also got great marriages for her offspring.
>She remained in charge of the kingdom to her death being perceived as the true ruler by her contemporaries.
And now, she is forgotten.
Does Joan of Arc count as a "ruler"? She was undeniably the most based woman in history.
Just kidding she's retarded
>female ruler
>good
Nice meme you kek!
>>>/r/eddit
>>28065
Are you afraid of women?
Again?
>>28065
He didn't even say 'good', he said 'the best', you ebin shitposter.
>>27942
She never ruled anything and she's also more myth than historical reality.
>>28319
No, you kill yourself.
t. /gsg/ oldfig
>>28319
Yes, I know, you weakling crybaby.
Run and hide before a woman appears to beat your shit.
>>28452
quality post.
>>28357
>>28390
Your tiny brains are amusing
>>28739
And vice versa, lad.
>>28739
Well, you will have to learn to deal with your fear to women.
>>26992
Russia might not have been a European power at that time, but the battle of Poltava marked its embarkation on that path. I personally think that Peter was the far greater ruler.
>>26992
it was. Catherine conquered new clay but didn't do much to fix situation in Russia, on the contrary.
Cleopatra. She kekolded the two most powerful men in the world at the time.
Elizabeth I was better than Victoria, the monarchy was essentially toothless by the time Victoria came to power
>>28319
>literally
>shitscum
>you newfags
>>>/tumblr/
>>29696
How is newfag a tumblr insult, you fucking retarded newfaggot?
Literally kill yourself.
>>26257
Catherine de Médicis for France, she was actually quite good considering how shitty the situation was.
Special mention to Louise de Savoie, Blanche de Castille and Yolande d'Aragon
>>28234
Myth really isn't the right way to describe it
It's more like she had the best case of schizophrenia ever
Does based Theodora count? Justinian was basically her puppet.
My cheekfu
>Removed kebab
>Started inquisition
>Founded an empire
>>26257
>>26326
>english monarch
>relevant
She could have had down syndrome nothing would have changed. The country has been run by its parliament, backed by mercantile interests before it was cool.
Catherine was an utterly awful ruler, her popularity is people magazine tier nonsense, the meat of a ruler is his capacity to understand and adapt to administrative, economical and diplomatic challenges, which she failed utterly at.
>>31398
>Justinian was basically her puppet.
She encouraged him at key moments, being his wife and all that. She did not run the day to day country for him.
>>31398
>This triggers Procopius
Reminder that she would strip naked and allow geese to peck at her.
>>30845
Worst example you could come up with. Hated the kingdom with a passion, unable to compromise, escalated the situation to full scale civil war.
Bore and educated her son to be retarded, clinically retarded.
The very reason Protestants started to be painted as victims.
>>32537
>Lost the Portuguese claim
Yeah real good Queen you got there.
>>28024
We don't even know if she existed.
>>27942
PR stunt of the crown of France. She was assigned generals who really controlled the armies instead of her.
She was here to pose mostly and increase the legitimacy of the french crown, who understood the effect a Mary like figure would have on the commoners.
Not trying to shitpost here, but did Queen Victoria really do anything?
Yeah I get she was reigning during Britain's golden age and has the period named after her, but did she have any real contribution to this?
>>26257
Hitler's wife.
>>34151
She did a lot of work in regards to the politics between the European Monarchies and kept their shit together.
She was an exceptionally good figure head and could play the public well, the prestige of the British Empire might not have been what it was without her reign.
>fucked rome's shit up
Isabella of Castille was the greatest.
Elizabeth I was not that good, other than having a good secret service that was able to more or less keep England more or less at peace. She mostly had great PR.
Victoria didn't have a lot of power and she was mostly a thorn in the side of Gladstone, that was likely the best leader Britain has ever had.
>>34110
>We don't even know if she existed.
I think Tacitus is a credible source that she existed.
>>34163
She was only his wife for 40 hours. At that time Berlin was being raided Slav hordes.
Wu Zetian of China
>Established an imperial bureaucracy and broke the backs of the landed aristocracy
>Successful military conquests in Central Asia, bringing Tang Dynasty to its greatest size
>System of soldier-farmer colonies to hold onto these conquests
>Patron of literature and the arts, massive works of sculpture
If not the best, then she's certainly up there.
>>26831
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>26831
She was such a cutie.
>>33870
>Catherine was an utterly awful ruler, her popularity is people magazine tier nonsense, the meat of a ruler is his capacity to understand and adapt to administrative, economical and diplomatic challenges, which she failed utterly at.
Her popularity actually came in her later years, once she start becaming the grandma of the Empire.
Actually, when she windowed, she recluded herself, thus ignoring her royal duties, and ask her to advicate in her son was a real option.
>>34084
In exchange of the Castilian and Aragonese Crowns?
Sounds like a great deal.
>>34502
>In exchange of the Castilian and Aragonese Crowns?
And her great grandkid eventually got the Portuguese throne, anyway.
tBh
Too many moors in here, this thread needs even more Isabel.
>63 posts
>still no mention of Eleanor of Aquitaine
Shame on you, lads.
>>26257
Maria Theresa was a good ruler, from Austria-Hungary. But not greatest obviously.
>>34840
This thread is about greatest female ruler, not "Medieval Kim Kardashian"
Elizabeth I
Saint Clotilde, Clovis' wife.
>make her local warlord husband convert to christianism and create western civilization
>>33920
>you will never see this
Why live
>>33978
Did she ate children too?
>unable to compromise
That's utterly false.
She encouraged Protestant leaders to discuss with the Catholics in order to avoid conflict, she even gave them one of her daughters to marry.
>escalated the situation to full scale civil war
And it was precisely what she tried to avoid with a war with Spain/England.
>her son
Which one?
The Protestants are painted as victims because they were unable to take the power and then chose to depict themselves as oppressed.
>>26257
>Who was the best Special Olympics athlete
Come on man.
>>34934
>was instrumental in keeping Aquitaine a Plantagenet dominion
>excellent diplomat who helped avoid war with France and a few internal rebellions
>had fucktons of children and legitimately tried to do what was best for all of them
>a fucking Kardashian
>>26257
>>26257
No, because she had actual little influence on politics
All bow before our glorious leader!!
Her or Catherine the great.
>>36678
>>/pol/
A first lady we can all look up to.
Thatcher
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>>26339
>What are the Falklands?
Ok, a lot people seem to get this wrong. I have it on good authority, that Adolf Hitler was born a woman. He had like a personal army of doctors, constantly giving him shots. Apparently they were giving him Methamphetamine shots, but I am not buying it. I think he was actually taking hormones, he/she was transitioning. He was extremely proud to finally being able to grow facial her - hence always spotting that ludicrous stache. Hitler being a woman explains a lot of the poor decisions he made.
>>26967
She brought the enlightenment to Russia and basically secured Russia's position in Eastern Europe. She also completely fucking smashed the Turks.
