Worst president? I'm leaning on this crazy fuck or Woodrow "the CUck" Wilson
>>249038
Words cannot state how vile Woodrow "Squishin' that sedition and takin' the klan out of the can" Wilson was.
Anyone who says Nixon is an idiot and should go back to reddit
James Buchanan and Franklin Pierce are several orders of magnitude worse than everyone else, with James "naked women make me puke" Buchanan being the worst
>>249105
Nixon was anything but stupid
but he was a bad president
>>249607
Nixon was a terrible human being but a decent-good president.
Obama
>>249123
This. But they're not as famous and hateable as some of the other retards so they don't get that recognition.
>>249080
In terms of morality with foreign policy and pursuing war he was a pretty average 20th century president, with a bit of an added bonus of actually trying to prevent the US from getting into one. But he also had some achievements in progressive domestic reform, so he's a loooong shot from being anywhere near the worst, he's just the one that pisses you off the most.
I realise most of you will like him just because he's hated by leftist faggots, but let's stop being edgy for a second and remember that this guy turned America from a respected hyperpower at the apex of power and prosperity into a joke, and incidentally put the Middle East into endless war and the hands of the Islamic Caliphate for no good reason whatsoever.
He's outside the bounds of this board though, so better to say "worse president before 1990".
>>249661
>http://www.truth-out.org/buzzflash/commentary/white-supremacists-have-always-baptized-their-perverted-cause-in-christianity/19443-white-supremacists-have-always-baptized-their-perverted-cause-in-christianity
>http://www.bu.edu/professorvoices/2013/03/04/the-long-forgotten-racial-attitudes-and-policies-of-woodrow-wilson/
>http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_events_segregation.html
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition_Act_of_1918
Tell me how this man was not a disaster?
>>249674
He nationalized major industries including railroads. Since when has racism and cracking down on dissent been a problem for you socialist types who support people like Lenin, Che, Marx, etc?
>no one mentions Grant
Top kek.
>>249674
Yeah, yeah. I'm well aware he was a racist that encouraged the pro-war mob rule in WWI. He still ushered the most productive domestic reform before FDR. Passing numerous progressive labour, banking, and tariff laws. His foreign policy and handling of WWI is a bit more mixed though.
>>249701
ITP: A liberal admits that he doesn't actually give a shit about people's rights or minorities.
>>249712
Why are you acting like this is news to anyone not from /leftypol/?
>>249718
Because I'm actively being a dick.
>>249038
Terrible guy, but he did get us on speaking terms with China. Which, frankly, may not have been the best thing for our industry, but hey, if it wasn't China producing half our bullshit it'd be some other shit country. He defused Asian USSR for the most part, that's pretty big.
>>249695
Butt hurt nigger detected desu senpai baka
He started the chain of events in the US that would fuck us all.
But it all started with the French Revolution
>>249666
Objectively, he can't be called a bad president, mediocre maybe, I guess the right way to call it is decent.
The bubble and Katrina weren't his fault, simply because that's the domain of states and congress, not the President. He couldn't have done jackshit about it, the can just kept being kicked upstairs in both cases, until there wasn't anyone but him to take the fall.
As for the Middle East excursions. He had to go in Afghanistan. Dubya was probably the perfect president for his first term, in that he was able to galvanize the nation when it needed it. There is also some respect due for waging two wars without imposing war taxes.
As for America being a joke - without the threat of the Soviet union, it's only natural for the world to view the dominating hegamon less and less favorably.
Had he stepped down after his first term, he'd have been a good president, but the second was a blight on his resume and puts him in the "decent" status. "Worst" is off by several magnitudes.
>>249666
achmed pls go
>>251495
I fucking love that gif. He dodges that shit like a pro.
>>251607
Dubya could be pretty based when he wanted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3p9y_OEAdc
>>251642
B A S E D
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>>250446
Wait, so do you like Wilson or hate him? Because I'm getting very mixed signals here.
>>251459
He was responsible for believing you can go on a "war on terrorism" nd in retrospect that did a whole lot of damage. Still does to this day. And not enough people have realized that things just don't work that way.
Andrew Johnson, hands down.
>>251727
Anytime America declares war an idea or thing, you know it won't end well for the vast majority of people. And it will never end in victory. War on Terror, War on Poverty, War on Drugs, etc. All of those things are even worse now than when war was declared on them.
>>249038
Woodrow had a lot of good going for his legacy.
>>251634
I fucking love lyndon b johnsons private quotes.
>>251632
>he put sadams men out of jobs and they formed isis!
>>251459
>War on Terror
>Invasion of Iraq
>Tax cuts, spending, and the bubble that nearly sent us into a depression
>Piss poor handling of Katrina
>The eloquence of a retard
>Doing nothing to prevent 9/11
>Signing the Patriot Act
No seriously he was a horrid president.
Has there been a single good president since the 1930s?
>>251899
Kennedy had potential.
>>251899
Ike
>>251495
>so what if the guy threw his shoe at me?
Based bush
>>251945
forgot to reply to the quotes
>caring about propaganda
>caring about the 800th sandnigger fatwa declaring war on your country that osama signed
>hurr everybody detained by the patriot act was a fucking angel
>>251639
I heard Coolidge was an autist, was this true?
>>251973
Didn't stop him from being a good president
>>251973
No. He suffered from massive depression after the death of his son, though.
>>252102
Coolridge had the easiest ride out of all 20th century presidents
The best
>>252168
>help of pirates
source?
>>251899
Ike
As a president:
Best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUl0GNY1EQ8
Worst: Buchanan
As a person:
Best: Carter
Worst: LBJ
LBJ was and is the best president
>>251971
>The War on terror is propaganda and not a money pit in the middle east that we are are tied to forever
>We told you Osama was trying to stage an attack on America using planes and he actually did it the absolute madman!
>Hurr the patriot act isn't the single great insult to the Constitution
Fuck off
Every President since Woodrow Wilson has been horrible. Expcept Kennedy, Carter, Ford, Nixon, and Bush Sr.
The especially bad are Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Reagan, Clinton, Bush jr, Obama, and Truman.
>>251715
I dispise him for spawning American Internationalism (world policing) and basically destroying the final essence of the American Republic.
I don't give a damn if he was "waycis"
>>252439
don't forget the IRS and Federal Reserve.
>>252317
>Every President since Woodrow Wilson has been horrible. Except Kennedy, Carter, Ford, Nixon, and Bush Sr.
I hate Sr. Gun control faggot and killed Kennedy. Basically formed the final coup detat of the USFG
>The especially bad are Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Reagan, Clinton, Bush jr, Obama, and Truman.
Agree.
>>249038
did you guys seriously elect bill murray?
>>249038
LBJ the man was kind of a prick, but LBJ the president was a tragic figure. He was sincerely interested in improving the social safety net and civil rights, and he made a lot of progress toward those ends, but he was also obsessed with winning an unwinnable war. If not for Vietnam, LBJ would probably be remembered as one of the greatest, regardless of his generally poor quality of character.
>>249613
Basically this. He wasn't so bad, he just got caught doing what the craftier Kennedy's were better at hiding. He started out poor, became president. Not even mad.
>>251495
Swerve
>>252182
Jean Laffite, Laffite also spelled Lafitte (born 1780?, France—died 1825?), privateer and smuggler who interrupted his illicit adventures to fight heroically for the United States in defense of New Orleans in the War of 1812.
>>249682
>leftist/rightist dichtomy
>"socialist types"
fuck off faggot
>>249038
Worst: FDR
Best: Eisenhower
>>249607
>prevented the soviets from glassing China
>a bad president
pick one
>>249666
He's not a good president by any means but no worse than Obama.
>>249038
Probably James Buchanan, but my conservative inclinations want to say Jimmy "give of the Panama Canal and allow our Greatest Ally in the Middle East to Fall" Carter is the worst president of the 20th century.
>>251639
>truman
>chaotic evil just for doing what any other president who has just been told there's a new weapon that would end the war immediately would do
what the fuck is this
>>254150
This is /pol/ with dates anon.
Wilsonian retarded politics destroyed two great empires laid the groundwork for the biggest war in the history of mankind. I can't really say if he was incompetent or deliberately evil, but he was pretty much the worst.
>>254217
the great empires destroyed themselves.
>>254205
It's probably also for the Truman Doctrine and all the satellite wars that spawned as well
>>254232
All I see is a president making his nation strong
>>252500
>He was sincerely interested in improving the social safety net and civil rights
We are talking about Lyndon "I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years" Johnson? That guy?
And matter of fact the civil rights laws didn't materialize in anything tangible other than, you know, blacks voting Democrats. Economically a black guy is worse off right now than he was in the 1950s.
>>254221
You mean by starting the war? Sure they are fully responsible for losing, but it was the Entente who decided to dismember them and redraw their borders into a gazillion irrelevant nation states that fell prey to communism and nazism later on.
>>254237
I mean it worked out in the end, leading to the implosion of the SU and tons of scientific/military development but that kind of doctrine also lead to tons of fucked up shit all over the world, propping up dictators and other clandestine operations
>>254244
Well if he didn't do that, there would still be bloody dictators, just Soviet-aligned.
>>254252
Don't mean to derail the thread, but it's arguable how much the US aggravated the SU into those kinds of actions
>>254259
>Soviet interventionism wouldn't happen if it wasn't for the US
You can't be fucking serious. They started to fund foreing guerillas like 5 minutes after the revolution.
>no Hoover
>no Coolidge
How?
>>254284
Hoover and Carter are proof that technocracy is a load of bullshit.
>the only engineers that managed to become presidents
>their presidency was a historical disaster
>>254238
>And matter of fact the civil rights laws didn't materialize in anything tangible other than, you know, blacks voting Democrats. Economically a black guy is worse off right now than he was in the 1950s.
>>254290
It's true. Black unemployment is lower than it used to be back then, higher drug abuse rates, higher number of single mothers, more violence, more abortions, etc.
>>251495
>that slight smile after the first shoe
Every US president after Coolidge was utter shit that did irreversible damage on the America people and the constitution with the exception of Ike and Jimmy Carter.
>>254238
Yeah man, red-lining, no Fair Housing Act, no Equal Opportunity, the KKK murders your famuly and you cant do anyyhing about it and no one cares....black people in the 50s had it way better than black people of today
>>251634
from literally any side, this is just bad choice of alignments
>>254313
I can smell the emotion and the butthurt from this post.
Go back to reddit kiddo.
>>254259
No.
>>254332
Your argument is looking a little thin, bro. It was legal to discriminate against black people in the 1950s for being black ( they were also a lot easier to kill if they were too successful), now it is not, yet you claim that black people had it better off in the 50s than they do now. You are an idiot.
>>254313
>no Equal Opportunity
Black unemployemnt rate climbed up at a HIGHER rate than white unemployment after Great Society shit was announced.
>no Fair Housing Act
Didn't solve shit. A racist still won't rent his property to blacks, he just won't be able to mention the reason why.
>KKK murders
KKK was a domestic terrorist organization, it's not like them murdering people was exactly legal before Johnson.
Also the housing policies in the 60s and 70s led to further ghettoization of black people so the exact opposite of integrating them into society.
>>254313
None of what you say is wrong. However this doesn't negate any of the damage that the culture of dependency has inflicted upon the black community. By any measure, their internal metrics are worse than they've been in decades. In that sense, LBJ was just finishing the work of that fine old democrat party institution known as the Klu Klux Klan.
>>254347
First off that guy you're replying to isn't me. Second, I specifically said they're worse off ECONOMICALLY. Enacting anti-racist laws and having preachy media tirades in the media won't exactly help them if they're poor as fuck, and money is more important than your feefees.
![Dwight_D._Eisenhower,_official_photo_portrait,_May_29,_1959[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eve5wqi.jpg "Dwight_D._Eisenhower,_official_photo_portrait,_May_29,_1959[1].jpg")
>Takes over from a democrat who handled just well
>Instantly fucks shit up
>Changes doctrines to the complete opposite his predecessor took years to build
>Foreign politics become a mess and stable governments are overthrown after questionable interventions
>Wants to roll back enemy ideologies by declaring them enemies of the free world as he wills
>Declares mission accomplished when in fact the job still isn't done
>Leaves office with the US being a shitheap
Dubya sure was a faggot.
>Pic unrelated
>>249123
So what did Buchanan do that has him hated on so much?
He seems like a moderate and reasonable man who did what he could to keep the war from taking place. Isn't he just taking the fall for the fact that the South seceded on his watch?
>>254399
Nice parallel, but honestly people hailing Clinton as the cool guy while simultaneously condeming Dubya as a warmonger are utter retards. American public is completely forgetting shit like bombing Serbia to dust over Kosovo because there wasn't a liberal outcry over it.
>>254413
People like Clinton because he fixed the economy and left the US with a Surplus while Bush Jr ruined it. The American Public cares more about domestic issues than stuff abroad, unless they're affected.
>>254413
While I see your point, bombing Iraq, a sworn enemy of Al-Qaida was about the most retarded, counter-productive and idiotic war they could have started. A thinly-veiled attempt at getting the fourth richest country in terms of natural resources. A cash grab.
Serbia is lightyears away from that.
>>254366
I had an effort post all typed up but fuck it, you're an idiot too. You think legal protections are for people's feelings? Holy shit, fuck you.
>>254430
He didn't fix shit to be honest, he only rode on the tech boom. When Bush took office the dotcom bubble has already burst.
>>254448
>more unemployed blacks
>more black single mothers
>more black drug addicts
>more black abortions
>more black people living in poverty
>higher black crime rate
>and thus more black people in prison
Oh boy Johnson sure helped the blacks, but at least they won't be called nigger by their landlords now, because that's obviously more important.
>>254452
The American public doesn't care how he does it, as long as the method gets them what they want.
>>254545
>he does it
He didn't do it, that's the thing. It's not like he created the tech boom.
>>254404
He didn't want to be the guy who started a civil war. So he just let shit ride and so the nascent CSA was allowed to run around and be assholes to everyone in a consequence free environment.
>>252692
>zero reading comprehension
His post wasn't a response, but just stating an opinion based on the thread topic. Are you sure that it isn't you with the reading issues?
>post is just one sentence, yet has a mistake in it
So the post is missing a period. This is the chans, not English class you fucking grammar nazi. Also, couldn't help but notice you are missing not one, but TWO periods in your post. And no proper capitalization either, tsk tsk. The adage "every time you point a finger at someone, there are three pointing back at you" comes to mind.
>tells people to "go to reddit"
Pic related.
>consider suicide
Do us all a favor and take your own advice.
>wilson, nixon, reagan, all horrible
Again, pic related.
>>254399
B-but MUH BEWARE THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
>>251639
why was eisenhower so based
>>252148
>having to clean house after the disastrous Harding administration
>the easiest ride out of all 20th century presidents
He just generally didn't make things harder for himself by royally fucking up like the rest tended to do.
>>251832
They're shit at just about everything desu senpai
>>255712
He was right, though. Lincoln shouldn't have wanted to be the guy who started a civil war, either.
>tfw no wayward sisters going in peace
>>254171
That would be China itself though. Its no as if China-U.S relationships were a one way street. China deterred Soviets from war during Cultural Revolution by
> Turning mass populace against Soviet style socialism
> Assassinating Lin Biao (who prolly tried to start a civil war w USSR backing)
> Building Nukes
> Having an army strong enough to make invasion a very, very costly affair
> Achieving international recognition in 1972 that made a legimate invasion impossible
> U.S alliance on top of that
Tldr cause and effect
>>254302
Thats the same for Whites too
Buchanan or Harding. Honorary mention to William Henry Harrison for basically achieving nothing, even if it wasn't really his fault.
>>251639
>literally came closer than any other president to wiping out civilization as we know it
>lawful good
Lets get real here
>Iran Contra
>Destruction of the middle class
>Trickle down economics meme
>Mobilized a base based simply on belief in God rather than what he was actually doing about them sleeping in tin cans
>Destroyed the mental health system by raising the standards by which someone could be considered ill
>Intensified the war on drugs leading to figures like Pablo Escobar
Can we stop the Reagan meme?
>>255981
He was the last president with the balls to stand up to the military industrial complex.
He was from an age where being a politician meant actually serving the people he represented and making choices for the betterment of everybody, not just the ones with the money to buy his ear.
Ike was the last mohican.
>>256705
>Trickle down economics meme
The term trickle down was literally invented by a socialist in order to make fun of capitalists. And it was in the fucking 1950s.
>>256715
The only president after him who tried to do anthing about it was assassinated by the CIA
>>256199
Not at all. Check the rates at which all of those things escalated for both races.
>>256727
I believe anon was talking about Reagan's "supply side economics" which is the same thing.
>>256760
Not even close. It's essentially about speeding up the V in macroeconomic calculations. ie: How many times a unit of currency changes hands on average. The V effect is huge. It multiplies GDP.
It does this by not taking people's money so that they have more to spend. Or, in other words, a larger supply of money.
>>256774
Which didn't work and crippled the middle class.
>>256795
Demographics and an addiction to credit crippled the middle class, not your vague dumb shit memes.
>>256705
>Destroyed the mental health system by raising the standards by which someone could be considered ill
"Rosenhan experiment"
>>256801
Not that guy but Reagan is a literal meme. He's an ebul boogeyman for the liberals and a demigod for the conservatives, both attributing shit he barely any impact on to him ("smashing communism", "destroying the middle class" etc).
>>256801
Reagan's economic tax recovery act was total bunk and he had to undo a third of it before he saw any sort of improvement.
Which was largely thanks to the drop of inflation and lower interest rates brought by Volker.
Supply side economics doesn't work. It never has.
>>256795
The golden age of capitalism is directly attributable to WWII. America, Canada and Australia were the only nations that were able to come through with an intact industrial base. As such, it became impossible to overproduce. There was infinite demand for American goods and wages rose accordingly. In the late seventies, the rest of the world was finally getting it's shit fully back together and we could no longer rely on export markets. The changeover to a service economy was going to happen anyway and the middle class did phenomenally under Reagan. The black middle class in particular exploded under his administration according to that right wing, koch brothers funded think tank called the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
>>256843
Okay Krugman, now connect your claims together to form a coherent position and then connect that to "destroying the middle class".
>>254195
>give of the Panama Canal
Given freighting trends the canal was due to become unprofitable in ten years, He gave it away early to make it look good.
>>252168
Libertardians are fucking sociopaths.
>>256856
What fucking Australian industrial base? It was all post-war construction. BHP and a few welding shops doesn't count.
>>256931
Andrew Jackson wasn't a libertarian and its shitlords like you that obfuscate the word's actual meaning by associating it with people that do not adhere to libertarian principles.
>>256975
libertarianism is a mental disorder. kill yourself back to kikechan
>>256985
Stop raping me.
>>249038
LBJ is the fucking best President. End yourself now.
>>254495
You do realise that the state of blacks today doesn't wholly rest on the work of Johnson, right?
>>251899
Clinton
>>255941
>So the post is missing a period. This is the chans, not English class you fucking grammar nazi.
wasn't even the mistake I mentioned, are you some kind of special retard?
>le reddit boogeyman xD
cut your own dick off with a dull, rusty fish knive
>Laughed at by Stalin
>Fucked up soviet relations
>Used the bomb to show everyone he had a big dick - few cared
>Literally described by his mother as a girl in a boys body
>The incarnation of the american who doesn't understand anything and thinks throwing their toys out of the pram will get them what they want.
>>256705
Agreed. Reagan ruined this fucking country, got us involved in the middle east, and Dubya just made it worse.
Other contenders include
Coolidge, Harding, and Hoover.
Any Gilded Age president aside from Garfield.
James Buchanan
Harry S. Truman
fite me
>>256831
Agreed. People tend to overblow Reagan's importance when in reality he was afflicted with Alzheimer's before he even entered his second term.
>>259177
He was diagnosed in 1994. Stop repeating bullshit because it flatters your ideological preconceptions.
>>259448
How about you sit down when adults are talking neocon. I've spoken to several people who either worked on his campaign or were staffers at his white house, and he was out of it all the fucking time, and went to bed at 9 P.M. every night no matter what international crisis was actually occurring at the time.
One person I met in college was an adviser on nuclear policy to several presidents, from LBJ up to Reagan, and he said Reagan's behavior constantly baffled him like none of his predecessors. Parrot the official party line all you want, but the evidence is clear.
>>260154
kek
as a rule I never believe anything on 4chin but I hope to hell this is true
>>257139
(You)
>>249666
Satanic trips of truth. How appropriate for Bush.
I'm a conservative, and intelligent, educated conservatives hate GWB for how he has derailed the economy, left the military overstretched and exhausted and told every lie in the book to get his wars in the Middle East to line the pockets of their oil industry friends. The obscenely rich got richer, the poor were ignored and the middle class had the blood sucked out of them. The entire world hates America now, and we deserve it.
I fucking hate GWB and the new Republican leaders. They're all facile, ignorant scumbags with no genuine conservative values at all. None. They just want to gang rape the environment, ignore the Constitution, subvert democracy, promote fear and superstition, deny people affordable education and exploit the working class and to turn the middle class into the working class.
I can only look back to the "good old days" of Nixon. That's how shitty American conservatism is these days. We went from Buckley to Palin. God help us.
>>249038
>Worst
zerobama
/thread
by fucking far, regan. how anyone took that man seriously is beyond me, his facial expressions alone when he made speeches was unnerving and extremely disturbing. how can an actor be that bad at acting like a president? it all started to go to shit after regan took office.
anyone who says nixon is a moron, he was an asshole but a pretty damn good president.
>>251607
>He dodges that shit like a pro.
He had plenty experience from the draft.
>>260548
Pat Buchanan still publishes his thoughts. Paleoconsevartives are the only conservatives with any credibility left at this point.
>>254185
Obama's hands are tied by a do-nothing congress. Its almost impossible for him to actually enact policy because of it.
Even when he did have both houses, the democrats were trying push through special interests rather than make good policy (Obamacare)
Bush simply allowed his cronies to run rampant and let Cheney run the gov't instead of actually trying to do anything.
Any president in the years leading up to the civil war. Was there an outbreak of retardation in those years?
>>262942
Actually, congress is more productive than its been in four years. It only changed when the senate changed hands.
>>249038
Was definitely Woodrow Wilson. He is 100% the reason the U.S. is owned by International Finance (i.e. you know who)
>>263125
I love how everyone hates Wilson. It's the one thing that can unite normal people and nutty /pol/ people.
>>249683
Grant's only crime was being the worst judge of character ever to be president
>>249038
are you idiotic? he's one of the fucking GOAT presidents
>>260548
++++++
LBJ, Lincoln, Wilson, Dubya, and Obama are my least favorites. If I were to try and be impartial, though, it would be Lincoln, Dubya, LBJ, or Buchanan.
>>254238
Because getting the black vote was worth losing 1/3rd the country that supported your party on economic lines? Yeah that seems legit
>>260548
This. But don't forget the Bush administration prototype...
I'm not saying Ronald Raegan was worse than Bush but he was
A) A fucking hypocrite.
B) A warmongerer.
C) A liar and bad at it
D) Downright crazy in his later years.
Just listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQxzWpy7PKg
What the fuck?
>>249123
Enlighten me on Pierce. What the actual fuck did he even do?
>>251642
>nails the pitch for the U S A
https://youtu.be/bxR1tZ08FcI?t=213
Jesse Jackson
>>249038
Morgan Freeman
>>251871
>fire half a million former baathist soldiers and government workers
>they wouldn't be salty about being unemployed in a impoverished, occupied country
>>252459
>elect
>>258022
not liking teddy wtf
>>267591
Why Lincoln?
>MFW all of these hippy dicksucks use their last ounce of testoserone to decry Reagan and his ilk when their guys did shit WAY worse than he did.
>>269878
>hippy dicksucks
>when their guys
Wow you sound so impartial.
Take your opinion and throw it in the trash. Reagan was a fucking awful president and I can say that as a conservative.
>>269888
>Reagan was a fucking awful president
He's overrated.
>conservative.
Somehow I doubt that. He still has nothing on the sins of FDR, Wilson, Carter...
>>269914
>Somehow I doubt that
Look up paleoconservatism.
>>269959
Oh. Okay. You don't matter and you will never like anyone who's actually in a position to do anything. Forget I said anything, you don't matter.
>>269871
I bet you anything its some kind of badhistory meme like "no Lincoln was MORE racist than the South" or "It was a war of Northern Aggression. The South wanted to abolish slavery but the North wanted to destroy it economically."
>>251958
I think he just let him go.
Carter
>>249105
A liar and a demagogue, but not necessarily a bad leader.
The run of presidents between Polk and Lincoln was pretty bad.
>>271552
Bush specifically asked for leniency on 1st amendment grounds.
>>249038
Agreed on Wilson, if only because he was a pacifist shit-for-brains who made us weak internationally. And he let the French bugger Germany dry, since anyone with even a tenth of a brain knows the terms of the Versailles treaty were ridiculous and barely sustainable. And fuck you too Lloyd George for going along with that French shit.
Another term under Roosevelt would have been so much better for everyone involved.
>>269888
He had one thing going for him:
He was not James Earl Carter.
>>273442
Poor Carter.
Great person, terrible leader.
>>273442
Well, you make a fair point...
>>273435
desu I'd say the French's desire to split Germany up into different states was probably the only way to stop Germany
>>249666
Way to poke the hernets nest...W is bad sure and certainly the worst in the last 50 years but all time? Hayes and Wilson were worse for sure
>>249038
Did you know there are oogaboogas who want to remove all Woodrow Wilson tributes because he was "a racist?"
>>254443
All of our middle east "Allies" had been begging us to remove Iraq for years. Iraq was a fuckup, but the end result was inevitable even without US intervention.
Andrew Johnson
James Buchanan
John Tyler
If your answer doesn't include one of these three presidents you are woefully ignorant of American history.
>>275830
As ignorant as I am, what was up with Tyler? I know he was only president by accident since lel Harrison, but what exactly did he do to drive the country into the ground?
>>275873
He was the only president to be publicly disowned by his own political party while he was still in the whitehouse.
He had no political grace, alienated and embarrassed his own party with his ridiculous 'Virginia Slaveholding Aristocracy' persona and spent more time trying to court the democratic party to nominate him for his re-election bid than anything else. His only half-achievement was the annexation of Texas, but Polk, the democratic nominee, had already made that a part of his own platform so Texas was going to be admitted with or without Tyler.
It's unimaginable for a president today to fuck up so badly that his own party says "HES NOT WITH US ANYMORE".
>>275906
Okay wow, that's pretty bad. Apparently so bad you never hear about him anymore bad.
Calvin Coolidge was pretty bad.
