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How did a nation and military that was deeply rooted in honor
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How did a nation and military that was deeply rooted in honor commit so much despicable atrocities? Japanese WW2 army is such a contradiction
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>>408674
Find a middle ground between Chinese storytales of nip rape, pillage and genocide and Japanese stories of brave soldiers who dindu nuffin. Other than unit 731 the japanese weren't that much ahead of other armies in terms of war crimes.
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>>408674
>Find a middle ground between Chinese storytales of nip rape, pillage and genocide

there's no middle ground. they actually did shit like mass rapes, beheading and literally marching people to death.
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>>408674
>How did a nation and military that was deeply rooted in honor commit so much despicable atrocities?
Bushido as a cultural norm was a meme used to promote nationalism among the plebs in Showa era Japan. It acted as a recruiting tool for the Army.

The reality was that if you weren't nobility or Samurai, you were entirely vulnerable to being treated like shit and taken advantage of.

And that was if you were Japanese, towards non-Japanese they held little to no regard for honor or respect.

Massacring Korean villages was practically a pastime for Japanese pirates.

>>408685
Compared to the other Axis powers you could make a cas. A lot of their unprovoked acts were still utterly despicable.
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>>408674
I don't see the contradiction
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>>408674
>How did a nation and military that was deeply rooted in honor commit so much despicable atrocities?
Honor among the Nobility, not for the peasants.

Even then, the idea that Japanese culture valued honor more than other Asian cultures doesn't really hold up when you consider all the horrible shit they would do to their enemies if they were captured.
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>>408705
>Japanese pirates

Just like the Yakuza nowadays, a significant portion of those pirates were of Korean descent
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>>408674
>How did a nation and military that was deeply rooted in honor commit so much despicable atrocities?
Japanese "honor" was (and is) a bit like knightly chivalry, where it applies to certain people but conveniently leaves out anyone you want it to at a given time.
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>>408769
And William the Conqueror was descended from Heathen pirates.

He still spoke French and followed French customs, same with "Korean descendant" Japanese pirates who still were observed speaking Japanese.
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>>408674
Different cultures have different definitions of "honor".

Surrender, as an example, was almost an unspeakable offense to the Japanese, so when they'd see allied troops surrendering, they just couldn't understand why anyone would willingly surrender when they still had the capacity to fight.
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>>408795
Why did Americans rape so many Japanese girls when rape is considered a dispicable act in America?
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>>408821
Sexually frustrated young men who most likely knew someone who was killed in the war.

Even then, marriage between GIs and native Japanese was much more common than rape incidents were. It's still a problem now because standards haven't changed in terms of how the men are expected to behave overseas.
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The second Sino-Japanese war is the Vietnam War of Japan on a large scale, and that abnormal development of the war combined with China's frequent slaughtering Japanese expats/immigrants in cruel ways (amputation, dissection etc), represented by Tungchow Massacre, which was stirred up by Yellow Journalism in Japan, made the Japanese mad. Once the war turned chaos and took on an ethnic conflict, people became insensitive to humanity, regarding them subhuman. It's not so unusual thing in history though.
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>>408674
During the Sengoku it was completely normal for samurais and the ashigaru to burn and massacre peasants in enemy territory
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Lmao at this thread

They didnt have the same western morals as we did, it wasnt that the peasants didnt follow their moral traditions like bushido its that it isnt what you thought it was
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A lot of the brutalization of Japanese soldiers actually happened relatively recently (late 20s-early 30s) due to the rise of more extremist views among the officers, before that they had treated their POWs fairly decently in the Russo-Japanese War and WW1.
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Shonen Jump probably still has that madate that heroic characters MUST be at least part Japanese. Thay should tell you something.
Muh Honor cultures dont extend any of that to outsiders - look at the Vikings
Besides, Muh Honor is something used to curb overly savage societies.
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>implying chinese and korean was human and not log
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>>408674
bushido as a system of ethics does not go far beyond loyalty to your superiors, charity only applied to Japanese civilians who had behaved honorably
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