What does /his/ think of modern art?
>>22136
I like the vvelvet underground desu
This is modern "art". It's garbage.
>>22136
Literally.
"It's what you think it is."
I feel like we've reached a point where subjectivity is everything.
>>22136
garbage. Imitative art can never encapsulate the true nature of ultimate reality and is thus doomed to remain a pale imitation of actual beauty
>>22136
Funded by the CIA as a cultural weapon. As usual, America is responsible for carrying degeneracy into the world.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html
>>22136
Modern art is more about context and interpretation; it may never surpass classical art in terms of technique or detail, but modern art has almost never been about those.
Artists like Duchamp or Warhol were challenging what people think of as "aesthetically pleasing" by placing the mundane in a elevated status. It might seem like nothing in retrospect, but that is because our conception of art has changed.
I do agree, however, a lot of modern artists fail to bring any new ideas to the table and just rehash old ideas with their uninventive twists.
Modern art pre-WWII is GOAT. Most art that came afterwards is shit
One day after class, I went to my library and just started flipping through modern art books.
90% of it was garbage.
The 18th century french art books were so much better.
>>22136
Low effort and little appeal to the average person. Much like reddit.
Art movements have really gone downhill since photography.
>>23909
Low effort is the entire modern art movement.
I like hyperrealism
>>22354
This, combined with a heavy dose of elite status signalling.
It's not the level of skill that goes into the art it counts, it's how you can spin the interpretation of its meaning so that you - and other initiates - can bask in how much better you are than the common plebs who can't understand the deep meaning of Rothko paintings
>>23773
Dali was the last truly great painter. Everything since has been rubbish.
One of the greatest draughtsman of all time. He could paint absolutely anything. Picasso is the commercial giant; Dali is the artist's artist.
"modern" isn't a movement or a genre
people use the term "modern" art for pretty much anything they don't like from the 20th century
>>24244
thank you for that information, /lit/
>>22177
haha this is great i love it
>>24103
I have the utmost respect for Dali
>>24282
here's another hint: next time you want to be "with it" don't bash "modern art", since that will out you as an ignoramus, say "abstract expressionism" instead
that's the movement with all the squares and lines and the Jackson Pollock paint sprayed on a canvas
André Masson drew so many minotaurs I think he was a legit furry.
>>24353
but abstract art can be GOAT
>>22136
Define modern art.
>>24594
Yeah, but it's almost always pop art tier.
it's klimt o'clock lads
>>22136
Indepently of its subjective value it works mostly as a tax evasion scheme for the ultrarich.
>>24353
alright /lit/ i'll try be to above it all like you
>>24649
don't mind me, just schieling the show ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Foundation_Burn_a_Million_Quid
>>24628
That's the later stuff, early stuff like Kandinsky and Malevich is great. Albert Gleizes, Fernand Leger, Juan Gris, Bracques, all them dudes.
Idk, I just like the way the colours interact and fit together. Like even Josef Albers' colour pieces are comfy and nice to look at for me, or Robert Delaunay's circles and cubes, and the similar things Hilma af Klint did.
The art I really object to is most post-1980s 'conceptual' art. Like Duchamp was funny and fresh but nowadays it's mostly garbage, unless it's witty or funny or interesting just for the surface-level thrill of it, like Claes Oldenburg's 'Big Versions of Shit In Parks', and doesn't try to be profound.
It's really just lack of originality and effort that I hate.
>>24730
>implying that's not extremely good banter
flatfoot pls go
Please use the term "contemporary" art or anything associated with it instead of "modern".
It's completely different.
t. a Modern art specialist working in a major auction house and who is envious of contemporary art department's pay
Modern art died together with Bob Ross.
>>22136
A money laundering scam mixed with critical theory in an attempt to water-down and destroy the cultural base of a society.
>>22136
Somewhere a long the way art became just pure emotion, zero technique or skill required.
The problem with that point of view, is everything and anything is art, because ultimately everything is based of emotion, even a lot of logic.
There's nothing special about pure emotion, there is something however truly special about emotion and creativity mixed with technique
>>22136
desu
>>25352
>t. uninformed opinion-haver
>>25416
You sure showed him.
>>22136
Just wait a few hundred years, and like with past art, all the trash will be forgotten.
There are some modern artists I enjoy, but not because they're modern.
Yves Klein (pic related) would be interesting even if he'd been born in an earlier era. His treatment of surface and movement was informed by his understanding of bodily movement he learned from actual contact sport, being a professional judo instructor. If some circlejerking dweeb had tried to pull off something like his Anthropometries, they would've been shallow and trite.
Modern and contemporary art works when done by people who have influences from outside the art world. That's why data art, for instance, is interesting. Most contemporary art is too incestuous to have outside influence and modern university education makes it very difficult to have the kind of multidisciplinary knowledge to pull it off. Most interesting media art comes from outside the art establishment, like the demoscene and self-published comics.
The Bauhaus movement was wonderful, attempting to once again bring science, art and industry together to improve the quality of life for everyone. Too bad it got either subsumed into Marxist ethos or co-opted by the bourgeois desire for premium goods. Today "designer goods" mean expensive collector's items, almost perfectly opposed to what good design set out to do.
I'm a big fan of Gerd Arntz. Less about his fine art and more about his contribution to visual storytelling and diagrams.
Maybe that's the problem with modern and contemporary art. A guy does something useful and he's no longer considered an artist.
>>22136
It is a crock of shit developed from flimsy aesthetic philosophy and its primary use, as I've heard and surely suspect, is a front for money laundering.
