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Can we get a thread about the history of this holiday?
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Can we get a thread about the history of this holiday?
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>Early Church sets its sights on converting Germanic Pagans in Europe
>Pagans celebrate their most important holiday of the year on December 25th, after the Winter Solstice
>The Church has Christmas laying around as an important holiday that the bible doesn't really give a defined date for
>Knows that the Pagans will probably try to keep celebrating their Solstice Holiday if they let them, so sets Christmas on the same day so they can only celebrate one or the other
>Lets them keeps their trees and yule logs and shit because who gives a fuck, just worship Christ

There you go
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>>374564
Christmas is a glorified ad campaign
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>>374564
Fucking christers ripping everything thing off then getting pissy when "their" holiday gets ripped off by consumers.
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>>374564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzjReUVjmcA
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>>374584
I always assumed it was based on the Saturnalia and the Germanic elements came later.
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>>374584
Plus:
>Some Turkish guy finds poor people but they're too proud to accept charity
>Throws coins down their chimney so they can't refuse
>Catholics get wind of this, call him Saint Nicholas
>Nobody cares except the Dutch, who take him as the patron saint of sailors
>Dutch add Saint Nick to their favorite Pagan/Christian holiday
>Nicky turns white because of course he does
>He brings presents down the chimney lol
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>>374683
>>374683
So where does this guy come in?
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>>374663
>>374683

It's all a bit muddled, but the basic gist is that all the parts of Christmas that don't directly have to do with Jesus are sourced from some Pagan-esque traditions that the Church basically went "Sure, whatever" with.
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>>374683
>Edwardian or Victorian Englishmen hear about this craaaazy Germanic way of celebrating Christmas with trees and a fat guy in a suit and presents
>Way better than just going to church and eating fish or goose or whatever
>Cultural appropriation
>Puritan Americans aren't having none of this bullshit, wtf dies the LORD have to do with trees and presents lol
>Corporate America doesn't care, Coca Cola ads feature a red Santa Claus (he's Dutch now, see?) because red is their corporate color
>Santa is a fat, white, old red guy drinking coke, Americans love it
>Koreans run marathons now wearing Santa costumes
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>>374699
He's a chimney sweep, that's why he's black, its soot. Santa don't want his suit fucked. Its Aldo why he gives coal, cuz of chimneys.
Conversely, in Slavic lands, he's a little demon who follows Saint Nick (not Santa) to tempt him to evil and punish bad kids, and that's why he's black because evil
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>>374564
Obligatory
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>>374683
>some Turkish guy
Saint Nicholas (15 March 270 – 6 December 343)
We all know he wasn't a Turk.
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