Tell me whatever interesting and lewd facts you have about sexuality throughout the ages
Everything from the first stone dildo, to the Greek pedarasts, to the Kama Sutra, to the Egyptian ritual of fapping into the nile, to medieval brothel slang, to Catherine the Great's alleged sexcapade with a horse.
>>363168
I would have to go digging for the exact page citation, but I remember studying Bava Metzia (one of the books in the Talmud), and there was a case of a woman suing her husband for personal injuries sustained while having sex.
His defense was that she injured herself using a dildo. They eventually decided that while in theory she could sue her husband for that kind of thing, there wasn't enough evidence to actually carry the case.
Even across maybe 1,400 years and a language I'm not fully familiar with, I could feel the cringe of the people writing it.
>>363190
>breaks her pussy with a giant stone dildo
>sues husband to buy her a new pussy
>actually brings it to court with zero shame
Holy shit and I thought the jewish girls I knew were batshit crazy.
Augustus made an anti-kek law. If you caught yourself getting keked you could lawfully kill your wife and the bull. If you didn't kill the wife, you had to take her to court. Funny thing is that it was hardly ever applied, and when it happened to Augustus own daughter he had to prosecute and exile her.
>>363345
To be fair, the court in question didn't make a ruling either way. It's entirely possible that she was in fact honest and correct in her assessment.
Despite how Russians try to appear now, homosexuality has always been quite a common tradition among them, and many European travelers considered Russian faggotry repulsive. Gays only started to be outlawed during 19th century.
Also Russian peasants loved incest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snokhachestvo
Felix Yusupov, a super wealthy Russian prince (and one of Rasputin's killers), was into crossdressing
>>363630
He also was bisexual.
Tchaikovsky was a pederast.
Peter I basically fucked everything that moved.
>>363168
Daoists were cool with pre-marital sex
>>363168
Would the world be better if it were more open sexually?
In ancient Rome, men born under the conjunction of Venus, Mercury, and Saturn were said to enjoy titfucking more than others.
>>365947
If by open you mean completely indifferent to what others do in the bed, maybe
>>363494
When I was in Chalkidiki the locals told me that loads of Russian tourists went to Athos to fuck the monks. Women aren't allowed on Athos making the monks repressed virgins.
Could be just a myth but they believed it
The ama, female Japanese pearl divers that inhabited far-flung coastal regions have significance in literature as both a sexual image (they often were topless) and a solemn one, as they practiced their sophisticated diving arts without appreciation, in solitude and away from the capital. The imagery can be found in old classics such as the Tale of Genji.
>>366229
>tentacle porn is Japanese tradition.
>>366245
The development of urban culture in the Tokugawa period, brought about by affluent merchants seeking escape from their lowly position in a strict Neo-Confucian social order gave way to a popular culture that was in some ways a rebellion from governmental attempts to cultivate a "moral nation". Pornographic images like that are some of the products of this period.
Another fun fact, Kabuki Theaters often would sell its leading actors as prostitutes after the show. Some fruit in my history class likes to mention this all the time, but fails to understand that this was tantamount to sex slavery and was an exploitation the incredibly impoverished against their will.
>>365947
Ever heard of a Bonobo?
They are cousins to chimpanzees and us by extension.
They don't have wars or fight really at all. Any and all conflicts are settled by fucking. Gay,Straight, young, Old. It doesn't matter to them. They get along pretty well.
Basically if humans had evolved in a lush forest with plentiful fruits everywhere, we'd probably be a hedonisitic, hyper-sexual, peaceful, matriarchal society.
>>366120
Paizuri was a thing back then? I thought it was a relatively recent invention.
Aristophanes' Lysistrata has several references to Athenian sexual habits and stereotypical sexual conventions they believed others had. Spartans were supposed to favor butt sex and be more willing to engage in homosexual activities. Although I'm not sure what it exactly this entails, Lysistrata makes reference to the "lioness on a cheese-grater" position.
I read that in ancient Mesopotamia or some shit mothers would worship their son's dicks and suck them off all the time to give them more confidence
>>366378
>Bonobos are notorious stupid.
Excuse me?
Bonobos are one of the smartest animals on earth.
Few other animals can learn sign language and make tools, let alone make a society.
You are more stupid than a bonobo if you seriously think that.
>>363168
The Chinese made dildos out of Jade.
Since Jade trumps gold & silver in their value, making jade dildos is rubbing it in for the plebs.
>>366425
Being smarter than a non-primate isn't exactly cream of the crop
>>366401
Wtf where did you read that.
Its actually weird to know that the middle east was afucking degenerate place compared to now.
>>366430
They also made dildos out of wood, bronze, iron and porcelain.
There are dildos with slots cut out at the base end where you can pour hot water into to mimic human heat.
They also had doubled ended dildos for girl-on-girl action.
>>366401
Somewhat similar, Manchu women would kiss their son's penises as a sign of affection.
Mouth to mouth kissing however is consider vulgar and taboo in Manchu culture.
>>366451
Maybe Islam is good for something after all eh?
>>366456
Ancient china seems to be the place to be patrician.
Not knowing about the Etoro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etoro_people
Your in for a treat
>>366473
>The Etoro believe that young boys must ingest the semen of their elders daily from the age of 7 until they turn 17 to achieve adult male status and to properly mature and grow strong.
M'WALAUI MY SON
In Greece were little girls fucked as well as boys? it seems to me that all the obsession was for little boys
>>366401
Christ
>>366451
I forget, and now I can't find it.
Another thing: Back in the day in Babylon there was a sacred prostitution custom where women would go to a temple of Inanna/Ishtar and bang a stranger once in her life. She had to accept any amount of money, no matter how small. She was only allowed to leave when the deed was done. Sometimes a real ugly beast found herself there and if no guy wanted her she got stuck there for like 4 years since even the biggest goober could bang 10/10s with his pocket change.
>>366529
This is in doubt in modern scholarship
>>366557
damn. too funny to be true.
>>366401
>>366401
What a date to live.
>>366473
Wow, that's fucking gay.
>>366473
Whatever paedo thought that up was a clever fucker wasn't he?
Marie Antoinette used to give her son blowjobs and handjobs, even when they were imprisoned.
It's one of the reasons the Revolutionary Council had her executed for 'degenerate behavior and incest'.
>>366401
>>366869
Shit nigga I was born way late
>>366451
>>366465
Pre-Islamic Arabia had some very strange sexual customs, such as noblemen being able to sleep with the wives of lesser men whenever they wanted.
Even the way the adultery prohibition and punishment is outlined in the Islamic scriptures indicates that group sex was very common at that time (like multiple noblemen gangbanging one commoner's wife).
>>366401
>>366869
Wew
>>366288
Bonobos are just as violent as chimps, but instead of fighting wars they just have lynch mobs and gang rape. Peaceful bonobos is as silly meme.
There was a medieval joke about women having two pussies. One in the front for their husbands, and one in back for the clergy.
>>366869
There is no evidence for this whatsoever.
The Jacobins just made this shit up (chief among them Marat in his 'Friend of the People' newspaper) as an excuse to get the death sentence for her passed.
She was out of touch and snobby, to be sure. And also conspired with her brother (the emperor of Austria) to destabilise the republic.
But there's absolutely no evidence that she did this degenerate stuff.
>>366869
What's with Austrians and incest?
The ancient Aryans who migrated into India around 2000-1500 BC had a well-attested tradition known as the Asvamedha - the horse sacrifice.
It involved sacrificing a horse that the ruler's wife would have sex with, in front of the ruler and the presiding high priests.
>>363168
Oral sex was in general frowned upon by the ancient romans. The mouth of a roman man was supposed to be used for oration and barking orders. Even women who practiced it were looked down upon. Prostitutes who provided such services were said to have bad breath and rotten teeth.
"Whores of the alleyways" are contaminated from giving oral sex; Catullus refers to "the foul saliva of a pissed-over whore."
"The bad breath and rotten teeth that are attributed to performing oral sex represent moral decay and a general corruption of the mouth's positive functions as the organ of a citizen's persuasive speech."
>>366953
Missing out on blowjobs desu
>>366946
I believe there was a similar practice performed by the Irish kings or celts.
>>366473
>The fear that heterosexual sex causes them to die earlier and the belief that homosexual sex prolongs life means that heterosexual relations are focused towards reproduction.
Have you ever been so gay sleeping with women was LITERALLY killing you slowly?
>>366946
Source?
Sexuality was a always an instrument of social regulation. In many older societies for example, older men would control the political sphere aswell as the sexual one, by way of arranged marriages. This way they also kept younger, ambitious men in check: they allied against them and didn't allow them to marry.
This practice survived in africa until the 20th century.
>>366981
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashvamedha
>>367027
god damn
>>366245
Tentacle porn was created to get around those pesky Japanese censors.
>>366938
Was one of them hate fapping to a picture of Marie when they came up with that story?
>>363168
>that image
>that feel when you first wake up and head to the bathroom
>>366245
>island country with huge coast
>countryside full of fisherman
>traditional cuisine is heavily seafood based
>surprised that they eventually fetishize sea creatures
??
>>366869
nice liberal revolution
>>367135
>degeneracy is liberal
the modern age is utter shit
>>367122
>>367011
>believing anything Gerald of Wales says about Ireland
>>366430
>making jade dildos is rubbing it in for the plebs.
And rubbing one out for the upper class eh
>>366229
"Geez, doin it with a squid"
>>366946
>>366970
>>366981
>>367011
>>367614
>>367658
Gerald of Wales is an extremely unreliable source.
>>367658
Yes, I've actually read this article in full. It's highly unconvincing.
Fact of it is, the Irish kingship ritual is described nowhere other than in Gerald of Wales' account, at the same time as his family was winning huge tracts of land in the Norman invasion of Ireland, an invasion mainly justified on a portrayal of the Irish as being barbarous de facto pagans.
>>367658
Plus, there isn't even any real similarity between the Roman, Indian and the supposed Irish rituals, other than the fact a horse is sacrificed.
>>366229
OCTOPI
HAVE
BEAKS
seriously do not try this at home
>>367695
What are you talking about? Assuming the Irish ritual is real, it matches up with the Indian one perfectly, except with the roles of the king and queen reversed.
The Roman one less so, but is still connected with the king.
>>367750
>Assuming the Irish ritual is real
Which is utterly stupid.
>The Roman one less so
Entirely no connection, other than the animal being sacrificed. There is nothing, other than possibly the origin date for the ritual, to link it to the concept of kingship.
Even then, what evidence do we have for the Indian ritual?
>>367750
Even if we were to assume Gerald was telling the truth, there are still significant differences.
Gerald doesn't even explicitly state the king has sex with a mare.
Even if he did, the genders are entirely reversed.
The Irish ritual focuses on consumption of the mare by the entire kingdom, the Indian ritual has no feasting.
The Irish ritual has no goat, the Indian one does.
And if we are to believe this is part of some "Indo-European religion" (and I may remind you there are those who question if such a people even really existed) then why are there no other similar rituals between these far flung and highly different cultures?
>>367750
Even if both rituals were actually real (and in the case of the Irish one, this is almost certainly not the case) it requires far less suspension of disbelief to say they are simply coincidence.
Let's look at the facts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_sacrifice#Comparative_rituals
In every ritual, the horse is sacrificed and dismembered with its parts distributed
3/4 rituals involve the inaugeration of a king (Indian, Irish, Norse)
1 is vaguely related to kingship (the horse's tail being brought to the king's palace in the Roman ritual
2/4 involve explicit copulation with the horse
3/4, possibly 4/4 are sexual in nature, The Völsa þáttr mentions a Norse pagan ritual involving veneration of the penis of a slaughtered stallion, some argue the cauda (tail) in the October Equus is a euphemism for penis
And another fun fact, in Hittite law copulation with animals was illegal, except with horses and mules.
Yeah, they don't agree in every detail. But remember that these rituals are recorded from around 500 BC to 1000 AD, about 3000-4000 years after the Proto-Indo-Europeans lived, so some, or a lot of divergence is expected.
>>368046
>in Hittite law copulation with animals was illegal, except with horses and mules.
based
>>365947
Hell the fuck no. Hedonism is the bane of humanity. As in, it's a pretty big problem for you.
>>366378
>If the world was more sexually open, we'd never evolve beyond our hunter-gathering days.
Can't say the trade isn't worth it.
In feudal Japan a wife accused of adultery was punished by having a group of men ejaculating all over her. The reasoning was this: if you're taking it from someone else, you're going to get it from everyone else. The humiliation would often drive the woman to commit suicide.
Puritan women could sue their husbands for not giving them enough sex.
Vibrators were originally medical tools. Orgasms were used as treatments by doctors for the terrible feminine affliction called "hysteria".
In China the virginity of women was rigidly enforced by family and community and linked to the monetary value of women as a kind of commodity.
Etruscan women commonly had sex with men who were not their husbdans, and nobles would throw casual orgies with young boys and girls involved as well. They saw no shame in raising illegitimate children.
>>363168
That book in Bereshit where two virgin chics made her dad drunk and had sex with him dor the sake of "keeping the family line alive", they really where into incest back then eh
>>365947
Back off slaneshii priest
>>366356
It's pretty much doggy-style, the lioness forming the handle on the cheese-grater and representing the woman on all fours.
>>366438
They can understand the concept of money, and scarce resources.
Greeks considered small penises aesthetically pleasing, and big cocks barbaric.
Mayans found crossed eyes beautiful.
Four popes died in the middle of sex. And Attila the Hun.
>>368416
BIG BARBAR SPEARS
>>368549
LITTLE GREEK XIPHOS
I've been to Pompeii, there are dicks carved into the stone that point to where the prostitutes could be found. Clearly, they found no need to be subtle about such things.
In Ancient Egypt, people really liked incest.
You find love letters where people pretty much say "I want to fuck you like your my sister"
>>366430
>you will never make opium addicted Chinese peasant girls to ass to ass
The Romans had a plant which was so good at birth control they overused it to extinction
>>366473
I wonder if the original pedo who just wanted to get his dick sucked by a kid ever thought he'd be creating a tradition that would last centuries
>>368205
>>368205
>In feudal Japan a wife accused of adultery was punished by having a group of men ejaculating all over her. The reasoning was this: if you're taking it from someone else, you're going to get it from everyone else. The humiliation would often drive the woman to commit suicide.
This is a myth.
>In China the virginity of women was rigidly enforced by family and community and linked to the monetary value of women as a kind of commodity.
This is downright bullshit. Confuicanism hated merchants and bankers.
>>368918
Dildos weren't around anymore during the conservative Qing dynasty
Also very few peasant could afford opium, most of whom were men.
>>367088
More like revived.
n 2/3 cases of the horse copulation ritual it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY TO BE TRUE, in fact the Norse saga was likely directly influenced by Gerald of Wale's account.
The Roman ritual was only superficially related to kingship, the significance of the Regia was NOT that it was the site of the king's palace but that it was the office of the Pontifex Maximum. There is still NO EVIDENCE the ritual actually dates back to the time of the king's or involved a celebration of kingship IN ANY WAY. Remember, Romans HATED THE KINGS; any celebration of the king's likely would have been thrown out completely with the formation of the Republic.
>2/4 involve explicit copulation with the horse
And again, one of those is HIGHLY UNLIKELY, the other is only moderately unlikely.
>3/4, possibly 4/4 are sexual in nature
Again, 2/4 are ALMOST CERTAINLY UTTER FICTION, the Roman ritual is simply NOT SEXUAL IN NATURE. I have seen no good evidence of the truth of the Indian ritual.
>The Völsa þáttr mentions a Norse pagan ritual involving veneration of the penis of a slaughtered stallion, some argue the cauda (tail) in the October Equus is a euphemism for penis
That is an utter rationalisation. The focus in the case of the October horse is not on the tail, it is ON THE BLOOD OF THE TAIL. Why would you have a stand in for the penis? Why not just use the penis?
>Hittite law copulation with animals was illegal, except with horses and mules
Again, I'll have to see proof of that but it's still far more likely to simply be a coincidence.
> around 500 BC to 1000 AD, about 3000-4000 years after the Proto-Indo-Europeans lived,
Try 8000 years.
>some, or a lot of divergence is expected.
What a handy little cop out argument to excuse ignoring all the various parts of the rituals that don't fit whatsoever.
>>368046
These studies of the PIE is utter nonsense. A fairytale, and this is just a way to try and rationalise the 19th century view of the PIE, as a "scientific" origin myth for the "European continent".
You could collect these far flung examples and point to them as proof of a horse worshipping Atlantean culture.
>>368920
>city of Cyrene makes mad bank out of selling the silphium plant which could be used as an abortion inducer
>puts the plant on its coins
>drives the plant to extinction
>the city, once one of the most powerful in the Mediterranean, collapses economically and vanishes
>>369669
>driven to societal collapse by abortion
>>369674
Nope, by climate change and improper management of our natural resources.
>>369669
Thanks capitalism
Also
>69
>>369555
>The Roman ritual was only superficially related to kingship, the significance of the Regia was NOT that it was the site of the king's palace but that it was the office of the Pontifex Maximum. There is still NO EVIDENCE the ritual actually dates back to the time of the king's or involved a celebration of kingship IN ANY WAY. Remember, Romans HATED THE KINGS; any celebration of the king's likely would have been thrown out completely with the formation of the Republic.
Or, this could explain the lack of the king 's role in the ritual.
>And again, one of those is HIGHLY UNLIKELY, the other is only moderately unlikely.
>Again, 2/4 are ALMOST CERTAINLY UTTER FICTION, the Roman ritual is simply NOT SEXUAL IN NATURE. I have seen no good evidence of the truth of the Indian ritual.
I don't know why you think these are so likely to be fabricated. It's true that Gerald of Wales would profit from painting the Irish as barbarians, but the existence of other strikingly similar rituals among related people should corroborate his account.
>That is an utter rationalisation. The focus in the case of the October horse is not on the tail, it is ON THE BLOOD OF THE TAIL. Why would you have a stand in for the penis? Why not just use the penis?
Well, one problem here is that a horse's tail, according to some wouldn't be dripping by the time they got it to the Regia. A penis on the other hand has lots of blood.
And even if the Roman ritual is not related, the Indian, Irish, and Norse ones would still be enough propose that the Proto-Indo-Europeans had a similar ritual.
>Try 8000 years.
The most mainstream theory of Indo-European origins places them on the Pontic-Caspian steppe in the 4th Millenium BC.
>>369571
Enlighten me then, what is the current view of PIE.
>>369777
>Or, this could explain the lack of the king 's role in the ritual.
Which is a massive rationalisation, found NOWHERE in ANY of the accounts.
>I don't know why you think these are so likely to be fabricated. It's true that Gerald of Wales would profit from painting the Irish as barbarians, but the existence of other strikingly similar rituals among related people should corroborate his account.
No it should not.
In both cases the rituals only appear in SINGLE ACCOUNTS, written by Christians about Pagans, hundreds of years after the are supposed to have taken place.
Secondly the Irish are NOT similar to the "Germans" the saga relates to, who are supposed to somewhere in Romania.
It requires far less suspension of disbelief to say that either, it is a common stereotype about pagan amongst Christians or, far more likely I believe, who wrote the account of the saga had read Gerald's account and adapted the story to fit into his fatansy account.
This entire approach to the PIE it utter fantasy, you're as bad as those henge-bothering Neo-Pagans.
>>369777
>Enlighten me then, what is the current view of PIE
The view put forward by Jean-Paul Demoule, as I myself saw in the Munro lecture he gave on the matter not one month ago, is that they simply did not exist, or at least not in the idea that they are a single common progenitor or all of Europe and certainly not in your view which is positively Atlanean.
Again, it's a myth. A fairytale cooked up in the 19th century to explain to atheist, scientific Europe why it was special, not to mention a good dollop of steaming Thule Society and New Age romanticism mixed in.
>>368205
>In feudal Japan a wife accused of adultery was punished by having a group of men ejaculating all over her. The reasoning was this: if you're taking it from someone else, you're going to get it from everyone else. The humiliation would often drive the woman to commit suicide.
Kek, meanwhile today people do it for money. What a strange history bukkake has had.
>>369777
The fact of the matter is we have NO PROOF about Indo-European religion, if there even was a single Indo-European religion, if the Indo-Europeans even had a single culture, if the Indo-Europeans were ANYTHING more than linguistic group, and even that, it is debatable.
All of your examples either simply don't fit without making SEVERE rationalisations, to ignore or twist the parts of the ritual which just don't fit into place or simply almost certainly never, never happened.
>>369777
>Well, one problem here is that a horse's tail, according to some wouldn't be dripping by the time they got it to the Regia. A penis on the other hand has lots of blood.
So then why did they use the tail, not the penis?
>And even if the Roman ritual is not related
Which is clearly the case
>the Indian, Irish, and Norse ones would still be enough propose that the Proto-Indo-Europeans had a similar ritual.
And since the Norse and Irish rituals are ALMOST CERTAINLY untrue (to say nothing of the dubious nature of the Indian ritual) then it's another "theory" about the PIE utterly blown out the water.
>>369864
It's a myth. Made up.
Bukkake was invented as a porn genre in the 1980s because Japanese film directors wanted to circumvent Japanese censorship laws.
>>369886
It's a fact that there was a group of people speaking a language ancestral to all the Indo-European languages. These people, like all other humans had a culture and religion. If you reject this then you're basically rejecting linguistics as a whole.
>>369934
>It's a fact that there was a group of people speaking a language ancestral to all the Indo-European languages.
No. It's a theory. A very old one, which has been disproven and reworked time and time and time again.
>These people, like all other humans had a culture and religion
There is simply no proof for that. Even if there was a single language group it is purely an assumption to say they shared any kind cultural unity and even more fanciful to say that they were the progenitors of all European culture.
Your "theory" as to ritual bestiality amongst the PIE has been proven demonstrable rubbish, deal with it.
>>369948
How did Indo-European language develop if not from an original group of people?
>>369960
Personally, I don't know. That's quite a different discussion to your straightforwardly bollocks argument about horses.
Demoule would argue the Indo-European language didn't actually develop, since it isn't real. It's merely 19th century linguists cherrypicking examples of similarities and ignoring the vast differences.
For instance, if Ireland, Scandinavia, Rome and India all inherited rituals which focussed on a horse from the PIE, why do they all have entirely unrelated words for "horse"? Shouldn't they all be similar?
Hindi: घोड़ा (ghoora)
Modern Icelandic: hestur
Modern Irish: capall/each/marcshlua/marcra/beithÃoch
Latin:equus
Show me the link.
>>369948
>No. It's a theory. A very old one, which has been disproven and reworked time and time and time again.
No it isn't. There's absolutely no other way to explain the sheer amount of cognates and grammatical structures .
>There is simply no proof for that. Even if there was a single language group it is purely an assumption to say they shared any kind cultural unity and even more fanciful to say that they were the progenitors of all European culture.
No.
Languages before modern transport and communication, occupied small geographical areas over a limited time span, and were spoken by a set of close-knit communities-a tribe in the broad sense
>Your "theory" as to ritual bestiality amongst the PIE has been proven demonstrable rubbish, deal with it.
It's not my theory, and not it has not. There's no reason to believe the accounts of the Irish and Norse rituals are made up.
>>369993
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%81%C3%A9%E1%B8%B1wos
>>369993
>Hindi: घोड़ा (ghoora)
If you want to talk about the indians, use sanskrit. The word for horse is aśva. Which, as far as I know, is related to the french chevaux.
This example, that the hindi and sanskrit have different words for the horse, shows that your own argument is more complex and doesn't automatically dismiss the bollocks argument about horses.
>>369993
All of this just seems like mad reactionary reasons in the face of overwhelming common sense.
That so many languages over such a wide area have so much in common, that linguists and etymologists can easily trace words from different languages back to the same origins. It clearly has the same origins. Listing some words with different origins or not linked doesn't change that.
Opium was largely used by american women when the Chinese came after the gold rush. 66% to 75% of the addicts were women. To the point that they joined Chinese men in opium dens and became their wives..
>>363168
>nice thread about sex in history
>ruined by some faggot who needs to talk about pies and religion
>>370043
>There's no reason to believe the accounts of the Irish and Norse rituals are made up.
YES. THERE. IS.
There is NO CORROBORATIVE EVIDENCE for the Irish ritual. The SINGLE ACCOUNT comes from a NON-CONTEMPORARY SOURCE who has proven to be thoroughly unreliable, and who has a VESTED INTEREST IN PORTRAYING THE IRISH IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT.
As for the Norse ritual THERE IS NO CORROBORATIVE EVIDENCE, AGAIN. The SINGLE ACCOUNT comes from a COMPLETELY NON-CONTEMPORARY SOURCE, which borders on SHEER FANTASY and written by someone who likely had access to Gerald's work and who has a VESTED INTEREST IN PORTRAYING THE PAGANS IN A NEGATIVE LIGHT. Hell, the account actually ends with the KING OF THE GERMANS CONVERTING THEM ALL TO CHRISTIANITY.
If you cannot understand why the evidence is problematic IN THE EXTREME you have no business being on /his/.
As for the Indo-Europeans, i:'m simply playing devil's advocate. Personally, I do think they were real, but I still maintain the idea had a singular culture which was the progenitor of all European culture highly assumptive and highly unlikely.
>>370112
lel, same here.
>>370112
>/his/ thread not so interesting after being raped by shitposters
>>370125
>putting entertainment before truth
>>370117
Are you just unable to believe your ancestors fucked horses or something?
>>370146
Yes, since there is no proof of that whatsoever.
>>370155
Yes there is, but according to anon, they are all made up, an opinion I've first heard here on 4chan.
>>370160
Show me where my argument is flawed.
Why should we discount all the points I've made and believe Gerald and the Icelandic Sagas, which may I remind you also say the King of the Danes killed an exploding mermaid?
>>370160
Your sources are bollocks, shut the fuck up and let us get back to sex.
>>She excelled in raising a laugh by being slapped on her puffed-out cheeks, and used to uncover herself so far as to show the spectators everything before and behind which decency forbids to be shown to men. She stimulated her lovers by lascivious jests, and continually invented new postures of coition, by which means she completely won the hearts of all libertines; for she did not wait to be solicited by anyone whom she met, but herself, with joke and gestures, invited everyone whom she fell in with, especially beardless boys.
>>She never succumbed to these transports; for she often went to a supper at which each one paid his share, with ten or more young men, in the full vigour of their age and practised in debauchery, and would pass the whole night with all of them. When they were all exhausted, she would go to their servants, thirty in number, it may be, and fornicate with each one of them; and yet not even so did she quench her lust. Once she went to the house of some great man, and while the guests were drinking pulled up her clothes on the edge of the couch and did not blush to exhibit her wantonness without reserve. Though she received the male in three orifices she nevertheless complained of Nature for not having made the passage of her breasts wider, that she might contrive a new form of coition in that part of her person also.
>>370192
That better not be the Secret fucking History.
>>She frequently became pregnant, but as she employed all known remedies without delay, she promptly procured abortion. Often, even on the stage, she stripped before the eyes of all the people, and stood naked in their midst, wearing only a girdle about her private parts and groin; not because she had any modesty about showing that also to the people, but because no one was allowed to go on the stage without a girdle about those parts. In this attitude she would throw herself down on the floor, and lie on her back. Slaves, whose duty it was, would then pour grains of barley upon her girdle, which trained geese would then pick up with their beaks one by one and eat. She did not blush or rise up, but appeared to glory in this performance; for she was not only without shame, but especially fond of encouraging others to be shameless, and often would strip naked in the midst of the actors, and swing herself backwards and forwards, explaining to those who had already enjoyed her and those who had not, the peculiar excellences of that exercise.
>>She proceeded to such extremities of abuse as to make her face become what most women's private parts are: wherefore her lovers became known at once by their unnatural tastes, and any respectable man who met her in the public streets turned away, and made haste to avoid her, lest his clothes should be soiled by contact with such an abandoned creature, for she was a bird of ill-omen, especially for those who saw her early in the day. As for her fellow-actresses, she always abused them most savagely, for she was exceedingly jealous.
>>370204
>Also, Justinian was a headless demon, I swear, lol
>>366430
Chinese sluts also made quad-dildos.
>>370222
WHY CAN'T PEOPLE JUST BE CRITICAL WITH THEIR SOURCES RATHER THAN JUST PARROTING R/TODAYILEARNED BULLSHIT?!
I CAN'T CUM IF IT DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAPPEN!
>>370199
>not trusting Procopius
>>370248
>Pro-copius-amounts-of-bullshit
Some greek myths had some fucked up stories, but I don't remember much. It was never clear for me, if Zeus only kidnapped Europa as bull, or if he keeped this form afterwards.
But Loki turned himself into a mare to fuck a horse and produce Sleipnir.
>>370248
t. Procopius
>>366401
>I dunno if I could pass that test mom
>unzips dick
>>366401
I don't care if this is true, I'd love to have grown up with a step-mom who occasional gave me a blowjob to cheer up.
There was a herb in the ancient Mediterranean world that would abort pregnancies when ingested. Demand for it was so high that it went extinct in the 2nd century BC.
>>366910
Super fucked up.
Read up on the Roman Emperor Elagabalus. He had some odd sexual habits.
>>363494
>Also Russian peasants loved incest.
It all makes since now.
>>363357
That was a part of his propaganda to make himself look like an old-fashioned, decent Roman and defender Roman morals and customs.
Basically, he was Putin.
>>369019
>Confuicanism hated merchants and bankers.
The sign of a pleb ideology
>>366499
Just boys, but I don't think it was little boys. I think usually it was teenagers.
>>370071
The original gutter punk junkie couples?
>>363168
Tiberius used to go swimming with little boys, his little fish.
He'd encourage them to nibble him as he swam
>>371818
>some people unironically believe Suetonius
>>370160
>according to anon
The fact that Gerald's work was blatant propaganda intended to dehumanize the Irish has only been obvious for the last few centuries son.
>>374115
>dehumanizing the Irish
>as if that's a bad thing
In Gaelic Scotland there were laws governing concubinage. A wife had the legal right of veto over any women who she didn't find attractive being brought into the home.
>>369855
>PIE isn't a thing.
Alright, I'll bite. Explain muh shared numbers and words
>>366425
The one group of bonobos that was studied and found to be highly sexual was a group of them that were raised in captivity like children or pets then given up when they got too large and violent.
They aren't regular bonobos. Regular wild bonobos are just as violent as chimps and not as sexual.
rome wasn't built in a day they say, but really, the predesesors to the romans, who sorta lived on the outskirts at the time, banded together and one night, they had this feast with drinking with their enemies, like a truce. they poisoned the drinks, and turned on their enemies. they killed all the guys and raped the girls. because they didn't have any women to reproduce with or something, probably because they were jerks. and thats how rome came into power. roofies.
ancient greeks were definately pedophiles
and gymnastics was done naked
olympics was naked
>>365947
No it would be degenerate and disgusting. Hate is better than love.
>>374437
Despite what a fapping young man might believe, sex and love are different things.
>>376310
The fuck that's not what I quoted. Fucking phone posting.
Sorry bro.
>>368205
>Vibrators were originally medical tools. Orgasms were used as treatments by doctors for the terrible feminine affliction called "hysteria".
Whenever I heard this, I can't help imagining a whole lot of women lining up and being suddenly hysteric.
I mean I would.
>>370580
Dude that shit literally happens in Japan right now. I heard one out of four women had sexual relations with their sons. I'm on my crappy phone so you'll have to google it yourself.
>>376656
>believing National Enquirer tier tabloids
>>374437
The gist of his argument was that, whilst there are some shared words, there are actually far, far more that aren't.
Romas like boipussy alot I mean A FUCKING LOT
Some of them wanted to be burried with their boy lovers
>>376929
>Romas like boipussy alot I mean A FUCKING LOT
Who doesn't?
>>378308
Wait... this is a guy? You mean the person in this picture pees standing?
Shhhheeeeeiiit
>>363494
Not particularly surprising. Homosexuality in pagan religions has pretty much always been seen as a harmless non issue.
>>367717
Did you not see the pic? Her gash is as big as her head. Howd you think it got that way?
>>366869
>will never have qt noble mom to get bjs in prison
:'(
>>363168
Regarding Catherine the Great's alleged sexcapade with a horse I will detail you the following story about horse sex.
Everything I'm about to tell you I got from a book called Proto-Indoeuropean Language and Culture: An Introduction by George Forston.
Here's a link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Indo-European-Language-Culture-Introduction-Linguistics/dp/1405188960?tag=duckduckgo-ffab-uk-21
I would highly recommend this book to any history fags. It's very in depth when it comes to linguistics, but if you've even had a cursory lesson in linguistics you should be able to grasp the basics of the book. It's very helpful for understanding the development of Indo-Europa and the cultures that follow.
Anyway continued in the next post ->
>>379938
Anyway, the basics go like this. I won't type up the passage word for word, but throughout Proto-Indoeuropean cultures from Ireland to India there exists a practice of ritual copulation with a horse. This extends to both women copulating with horses. Typically, the copulation occurred to consummate the crowning of royalty. Additionally, the consummation sometimes included the roasting and consumption of the horse afterwards.
>>368205
>linked to the monetary value of women as a kind of commodity
You mean her dower? That was actually really common pretty much everywhere. A virgin who married got a much larger sum than a widow who remarried. It's where the word dowager comes from.
>>379948
Sorry, both women and men were known to copulate with horses. Forston expressly notes an Irish tradition and an Indian one from my memory. Possibly related would be from Norse mythology is the act of Loki copulating with a giants horse during the construction of a wall around Asgard and thereby producing the offspring horse Sleipnir, who had eight legs and was ridden by Odin.
This is conjecture on my part, but it is an additional example of horse copulation occurring within a Proto-Indoeuropean culture.
>>379963
I went and found the passage for you guys.
>>379982
Yeah I see that now. I was feeding quickreplies.
>>367108
I don't see the English wanting to fuck cod.
>>376902
>french and german have far more words that are unique than they share.
>therefore their culture and languages cannot be alike
shit argument
>>369692
Kek
>>379994
That's because they have sheep
>>379994
>not wanting to fuck cod
>wrote Moby Dick
>a story literally about one man's obsession with a fish
>>366451
I don't know about ancient incest, but in Persepolis Marjane's mother explains that Iranian mothers tell their sons how amazing their dicks are, which is why they all think they're hot stuff. Although it might be that she's just angry that all the men in town think she wants to ride their cock now that she's a widow
>>380185
>Moby Dick
>a fish
Triggered
>>380394
In the book the author spends a whole chapter explaining that whales are fish
>>366869
>one of the reasons
Just one?
>>378308
people with decency
>>379994
Mermaids are pretty much the western version.
