How did people communicate in the ottoman empire when you had dozens of different ethnicities living together.
Aside from maybe maybe merchants and government officis most people probably wouldn't speak a different language than their mother language.
>>1429211
Lingua Franca
>>1429211
And that's why the Ottoman Empire isn't here anymore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kar%C3%A1nsebes I'm surprised there are not more occurrence's of stuff.
How did people communicate in the roman empire when you had dozens of different ethnicities living together.
Aside from maybe maybe merchants and government officis most people probably wouldn't speak a different language than their mother language.
>>1429211
And wouldnt move around people who speak a different tongue.
>>1429211
They didn't, for the most part. Greeks spoke to greeks, arabs spoke to arabs, jews spoke to jews, bulgarians spoke to bulgarians, serbs spoke to serbs, turks spoke to turks, and so on.
The ruling class spoke to each other in persian, a language nobody but them spoke, and there was very little unity in the empire, or urbanization beyond a few trading hotspots, which is ultimately why it fell.
>>1429251
They all spoke Latin and were adopted into Roman culture. The exceptions being Jews and Germans who came in uncontrollable numbers during the later days of the empire and did not assimilate.
>>1429260
So you're saying that everyone was segregated even in the big cities.
It sounds weird to me that people could live like that for centuries.
>>1429309
That was normally how people lived long before the Ottoman empire.
>>1429309
Not him but yea the big cities were divided into quarters too, this is basically how it was for most of history.
>>1429309
It's still happening even now, with mass migrations of people who form segregated communities.
Of course, the wonders of state ran public education ensures that by the 2nd or 3rd generation most integrate to the homogenous whole, at least linguistically.
>>1429261
Unless you were in the eastern half of the empire where everyone spoke Greek.... or the western half of the empire and liked Greeks. Or you lived in say, what's now Spain and spoke the local language for centuries after Roman conquest.
How far into the deep, hairy recesses of your asshole did you need to reach for your "conclusion" there?
>>1429261
It was only the educated elites and the ruling class that learned Latin and Greek. I imagine it was the same in the Ottoman empire. Most people are illiterate and only speak their local language and the ruling class knows Arabic in order to interact with the central authority.
Something like 80% of the people were peasants and other rural folks who did not need to know any language but their mother tongue.
The people who lived in cities spoke whatever language was dominant in their city in addition to their mother tongue. Educated people (<10% of the population generally) and a few reeve-types would know prestige languages.
>>1429430
>>1429506
>What's Vulgar Latin and why is French a thing?
Classical Latin and Greek was spoken among the higher class since they adored Greeks but the common people all spoke Latin, albeit a more vulgar form of it. The people living in places such as Spain eventually did assimilate into Roman culture and spoke Roman. There's even a fucking continent with Latin in the name because it was colonized by descendants of Romans.
>>>1429251
>they all spoke Latin and were adopted into Roman culture.
That isn't true at all. It wasn't even a second language in much of the empire, and barely anyone spoke it in the eastern provinces (Greece, Asia, Anatolia, Syria etc.).
>>1429506
This is true for classical Greek (most commonly Attic), but Koine spread through the Hellenistic world and beyond. It was the lingua franca throughout much of the Middle East (and not just among the middle classes), and for a time was the lingua franca in many of the areas that Alexander subdued. It's a simpler form of Attic/Classical Greek, easier to learn.
And again, it was not at all restricted to the upper/educated classes.
There's a reason that the NT was written in Koine, and not Aramaic. It was not to proselytize solely to the Greeks -- otherwise it would have been written in one of the more traditional dialects -- probably Attic.
