How come northern Europe never developed?
but it did
>>1424040
also, what made africa such a superpower?
>>1424047
Northern Europe advancement is mostly due to Christian missionaries and scholars. They don't have a true civilization of their own.
>>1424085
>civilization=christianity
*tips crucifix*
>>1424077
So, is everyone who isn't Sumeria, The Indus Valley, China, Egypt or the Mesoamericans a subhuman?
>it's a "anons don't realise that this thread and the arguments therein are a parody of the nauseatingly frequent 'how come Africa never developed' threads" episode
Why would they? They were dumb niggers living in a frozen wasteland, why would you expect them to develop anything worthwhile?
Surely you didn't fall for cringy 19th century Nordicist racial theories?
>>1424092
And South Europeans (Minoans)
>northern euro """"""architecture"""""
>>1424040
>Snowy, shitty land
>Society based on going to more civilized, developed places to memeraid for temporary gain back at shithole snowland
>Paganshits more focused on being stronk warriors than any more "civilised" pursuits
>"Political" power not useful for anything other than stomping upon other snowniggers
>Entire culture is based around continually fighting and then dying for stronk gods as opposed to developing your country, your family legacy or your own power
Simple laws, culture and people=No development. You need kikes for city lights, lad.
>>1424040
too far from roman roads. only developed in england after contact with pax roma
>>1424105
>South Europeans
Europeans aren't a unified group. Don't group them all together so your Germanic ass can feel pride about the achivements of some other group.
The Minoans weren't even "southern" Europeans. They lived on Crete, which is borderline in Asia.
Vi var romare och skit
>>1424040
Because they are not white, but orange and pink.
>>1424136
>west of the rhine shit
>>1424127
>The Minoans weren't even "southern" Europeans. They lived on Crete
Genetically they were neolithic farmers, so very close to Iberians and Sardinians.
>tfw austeritynigs are still buttblasted about northern europe
>It's another "You Germanic dogs where no better than sub-Saharan Africans until we Mediterraneans came along and civilized you" episode
>>1424040
innately stupider and prone to unvirtuous conduct
>>1424160
Well, that is true. But who gives a shit, times have changed, and while we became the masterrace the Mediterranian "white europeans" are now sitting in shit tier countries and lamenting their glorious past.
t. germanic dog
>>1424160
It's true tho.
>>1424040
When you think about it, most parts of the world have imported civilization. I think only three regions in Afro-Eurasia actually developed advanced civilization on its own:
the Middel East, including Egypt
the Indus Valley
China
(Plus there was the Andes and Mezoamerica outside Europe.)
Every other region advanced through contact with them, even Greek civilization was relatively new, it was actually kickstarted by Anatolian and Egyptian civilization.
So it's not really a wonder that Northern Europe, Africa or wathever didn't become civilized very early. It looks like advanced civilizations are what's unusual and primitive societies are the norm, until they don't meet and advenced one.
>>1424189
>http://xoomer.virgilio.it/mattme/doc/Fisica2/Principi%20dinamica/Esercizio%20sul%20piano%20inclinato.pdf
Pretty much false, it was kickstarted by the Minoans.
>>1424040
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_Empire
?
Because they were mostly sparsely populated shitholes dependent on warm climate for most of it's history.
>>1424212
Wewuznian pls.
>>1424077
Why would they have too when perfectly good civilization is just to the south?
nothing edible would grow here
>the logic behind the "why dont africa civilazations" thread but about europe
This should go well
>>1424178
You should really travel a bit more if you think Italy, France and Spain are shit countries
It's pretty damn hard to sustain a large population in a boreal climate. You can't grow shit, only get one harvest a year and the thin layer of soil is mostly shitty or even acetic.
Good luck trying to develop a civilization on your own in those conditions. The North never had a chance before modern technoloy.
>>1424040
But they had THINGS
>>1424040
It did.
>>1424085
Except all Christianity did was apply a new coat of varnish to preexisting Greco-Roman civilization.
>>1424212
Explain.
Maybe they were beyond subsaharan africans in that they had metal but that's about it.
>>1426096
Subsaharan Africans developed iron working, while northern Europeans did not.
>>1424085
lol the fuck this bait?
>>1424040
climate was cold enough to discourage agriculture
>>1426098
>while northern Europeans did not.
Yes, they did. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>1424189
Actually, some the Gauls (at the very least amongst the celts) and the Iberians both developed fairly complex civilizations by themselves. The Gauls started to develop a sort of proto-urbanization and the Iberians had their own scripts.
>>1426098
Are you legitimately retarded?
>>1426430
Don't forget the ancient Sardinians
>>1426202
>>1426436
Northern Europeans received metal working through trade with other people who developed it. They never independently developed iron working the way Sub-Saharan Africa did.
>>1427628
>Northern Europeans received metal working through trade with other people who developed it.
Actually they developed it independently after trade with central europe broke down. Bronze could not be produced in scandinavia because tin was not a local mineral, but they did have iron in bogs.
>>1428258
They developed their own iron resources, but they didn't independently develop Iron Working. Iron Working spread to Scandinavia the same as it did in the rest of northern Europe.
There's no evidence, and no reason to suppose a independent invention of Iron Working.
>>1426430
Yes, but at what point in history? Not around around 3-2000 BC, when Egyptians and Mesopotaimans were already buildings cities, only during the iron age, after centuries of contact with the mediterranean.
>>1428286
The Iberians developed proto urbanization, walled settlements and monumental building during the bronze age, same with the Sardinians, of course they were not massively urbanized like Egyptians but they still produced a lot of outstanding monuments for their time
>>1424040
something something pseudo-genetics something /pol/
but if you want an actual, real answer, it was cold out there, and the land isn't fertile
up until a century ago agriculture was what decided who gets to develop and who doesn't.
Scandinavia isn't developed, it has extremely high rates of rape and other crimed and many slums full of unemployed people.
>>1428428
It only has extremely high rates of rape, because slapping a girl's ass is considered rape.
If you normalize to only define rape as "using force to have sexual intercourse with an unwilling person", they are not high at all.
>>1428323
>late era IVC is simple farming society.
>>1428436
its the same in India as well, but hey, every girl in india is being raped 24/7 right?
>>1428323
Hittities and Indus should be blue, rest is accurate, maybe Iberia should be orange too
>>1428273
>There's no evidence, and no reason to suppose a independent invention of Iron Working.
>>1428258
>Actually they developed it independently after trade with central europe broke down. Bronze could not be produced in scandinavia because tin was not a local mineral, but they did have iron in bogs.
There's no reason to believe they didn't.
They were conquerors and great warriors
>sacked Rome
>sacked Constantinopole
>conquered England
>sacked Paris multiple times
>most feared warriors in Europe
no land to produce food, lower consumption, lack of nutrients
the result can only be semi retarded cavemen with autism
>>1428604
/his/ - no historical accuracy allowed.
>>1428604
They didn't sack Paris multiple times.
>>1428652
>Vikings sacking Rome and Constantinpopole
>sacking Paris more than once
>historical accuracy
kill yourself
>>1428683
>Vikings sacking Constantinople
Never happened, but they certainly tried. Several hundred ships from Rus tried besieging it only to get BTFO by Greek fire
>>1424130
Väl talat broder
>>1428567
What kind of retard logic is that? There's no reason not to believe that Iron Working was discovered independently in America, so I guess we'll just pretend it did?
>>1428715
Rus were not vikings idiot.
>>1428604
Not as great as the Dindus
>Sacked LA
>Sacked Ferguson.
>Sacked Baltimore
>Sacked New York
>Sacked Paris
>Conquered Europe
Great Warriors.
>>1428428
>it has extremely high rates of rape
And why is that?
>>1429088
>you are charged with rape (that exact word) for slapping a girls ass
No
>>1429106
You are charged with whatever the thing is that media translate to rape for their fear mongering articles when you fondle or slap a girl's ass.
>>1429169
>media = court of law
Is this b8? They're rape is sky high and I'm talking about actual rape that's actually been committed
>>1429181
You are talking about rape as its defined in Sweden.
Protip: it isn't defined as "rape", and its definition doesn't coincide with the american one.
>>1429184
The fuck are you on about? Rape is rape. Youre taking the memes too seriously
>>1429191
Rape isn't a scientific constant, you imbecile. It wasn't discovered by physicists to be used across the world.
It has different definitions in different cultures and states, and the one in Sweden doesn't fit the one in your head.
>if you don't invent something you are doomed to be a subhuman ape forever
lol the romans suck, they didn't even invent farming xD
well they didnt need to, they got the goals straight, without working for them. thats why they cant use them anyway and just kill themselves. they are the equivalent of the 3rd world but at the other extreme.
>>1429197
>rape isn't a scientific constant
What the fuck am I reading?!
rape1
[reyp]
noun
1.
unlawfulsexualintercourseoranyother sexualpenetrationofthevagina,anus,or mouthofanotherperson,withorwithout force,byasexorgan,otherbodypart,or foreignobject,withouttheconsentofthe victim.
Swedish law isn't tumblr madness. Despite their general SJW insanity, rape is Sweden is still actual rape.
>>1429215
>le google definition
Are you retarded?
Consider this: In 1992 the line between sexual assault and rape in Swedish laws was blurred and this resulted in a 25% increase in rapes. This was before the refugee crisis, and without a burst in immigration. The people were the same, the culture was the same, only the legal definition of rape was altered, and suddenly 25% more rapes.
This has happened on numerous occasions. The legal definition of what rape is in Sweden isn't the same as your google dictionary one.
This is my last response, since I keep repeating the same fact, and you keep on bringing nothing against it.
>>1429222
Source
Too busy taking land all over the world desu.
>>1429226
What happened to your amazing google powers?
>Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention
>European Journal on Criminal Policy and Research: Crime Statistics as Constructs
>bunch of university reviewed articles in Swedish
>>1428721
there is no reason to believe it didn't develop independently in northern europe and reason to believe that it did.
Also it was discovered independently in America lol
