So , was Nazi Germany right wing or left wing ?
>>1410839
Reich wing
>>1410839
By retarded modern definitions, right wing.
By classical definitions, liberal.
By commie definitions, reactionary.
The most reasonable placement would be absurdly authoritarian centrist with strong racial ideals.
They nationalized a fuckton of industries and restricted many freedoms. With that being said Hitler himself spoke poorly of Soviet Socialism and American capitalism. Economically they were definitely left of center, culturally they were very conservative, and socially very authoritarian
Right-wing, because they were nationalist. Same reason Stalin was a right-wing.
>>1410866
Ayy lmao
>>1410839
NEITHER, BUT FOR EXPEDIENCY, CONTEMPORARY NATIONAL SOCIALISTS TEND TO REFER TO NATIONAL SOCIALISM, AND THEREFORE TO THE THIRD REICH, AS BEING/HAVING BEEN "LEFT WING".
>>1410866
kill yourself you retarded nigger
>>1410866
>nationalism is right wing meme
>>1410875
Nationalism is right-wing now but at one time it wasn't.
>>1410878
Some of the basics of classical liberal thought shatter if you consider that nationalism is wrong
>>1410839
Neither.
Third Position is a thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position
>>1410857
>They nationalized a fuckton of industries and restricted many freedoms.
>... restricted many freedoms.
1. YOU MEAN "LIBERTIES", NOT "FREEDOMS".
2. ANY RESTRICTIONS WERE NECESSARY TO PRECLUDE EXPLOITATION, AND USURY, POLLUTION, AND MANY OTHER DETRIMENTS, AND TO MAINTAIN ECONOMIC STABILITY.
>... [GERMAN NATIONAL SOCIALISTS] culturally they [SIC] were very conservative...
NO; ON THE CONTRARY, THEY WERE RADICALLY FOLKISH, ENTAILING ANTITRADITIONALISM, AND ANTICONFORMISM.
>>1410893
Classical liberalism is generally considered more to the right in modern times, though it was originally revolutionary.
The revolutionaries of today are the reactionaries of tomorrow.
>>1410911
>When has a National Socialist ever referred to such ideology as left wing?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "WHEN"?
>>1410917
I hate it when you're stupid on purpose
>>1410921
I AM BEING SINCERE; I DO NOT COMPREHEND YOUR QUESTION.
>>1410926
You know what he meant, "on what occasion"
>>1410917
I've never heard of a National Socialist claiming such a thing. Any example?
>>1410931
IT IS A FACT; SOMETHING THAT OCCURS, AND HAS BEEN OCCURRING.
IS HE ASKING ME FOR A SPECIFIC INSTANCE? IF SO, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO PROVE? IT IS FUTILE.
>>1410872
Sorry, Hitler was right-wing because he was socially conservative. Same reason Stalin was a right-wing.
>>1410839
they didn't play that game. They took elements from both spectrus and merged it in order to attract both sides to them
Of course, the murder of Rohm and Gregor Strasser was meant to diminish both the revolutionary and socialist aspect of the Party respectively.
>>1410939
>Hitler was right-wing because he was socially conservative.
That statement is utterly erroneous.
>>1410839
Hitler supported basically every progressive policy that existed at the time.
1. Free abortion for non whites
2. Central planning and anti globalization
3. Fought western capitalist powers and supported the Tiger Legion, Arab Legion, INA, Muslim Chechens and other anticolonialist movements
4. Anti capitalist antisemitism
5. Goering secretly negotiated with the Jewish National Fund to ally against British rule of Palestine
6. Praised many aspects of Islam
7. Won a larger share of the female vote than the male vote
8. Domestic stimulus policies, versus Stalin's export oriented austerity policies
9. All major Allied powers were white; Hitler allied with Japan
10. Many senior National Socialists were homosexuals and/or Jews
Outside the West, and especially in the Middle East, Hitler is considered a progressive figure.
>>1410953
Well he was nationalist and socially conservative, doesn't really get anymore right-wing than that.
>>1410962
Go away, idiot.
>>1410939
He was not socially conservative
>>1410839
National Socialism is a variant of Fascism is Fascism is inherently neither left or right wing. It was created specifically because people didn't like either side.
>>1411641
>National Socialism is a variant of Fascism
Go, and learn, instead of posting misinformed nonsense.
>>1410949
Compare Hitler's own statements and policies with those of the NSDAP's left-wing which he eliminated. The Third Reich had a command economy by the end of the war, but it was always firmly on the right.
>>1410856
the word liberal has lost its meaning long ago
>>1410954
fuck urselfo
>>1410902
What's the defination of Folkish?
>>1410839
It's fascist. Right wing with some leftist trappings to secure the support of the working class.
Nationalism is not inherently right wing.
The workers of a nation might have it in their interest to limit immigration of cheap laborers to their nation, thus would be against immigration.
In Norway for example, the Labour Party is nearly as anti-immigration as the furthest right party (Progress Party), but it markets itself as pro-immigration, so it will appeal to socialists
but look at their voting record
>>1411676
Nazism was never left or right. It's third position, which has elements of both. At its basis, it's simply another form of collectivism with an emphasis on Germanic race/nationality.
>>1410939
Hahahaha that joke was even funnier the second time bro please stop it!
Syncretic, it does not easily fit into a simple dichotomy because it also deems captialism to be an inadequate system
Speaking in terms of economics, National Socialism was a mixed economy, allowing a mixture of state owned and privately owned businesses. However, socially speaking, the Third Reich was severely bent on traditionalism and anti-Marxism, making them socially conservative. In the long run, National Socialism was economically verging on left wing economic principles, but socially were severely conservative.
>>1412936
How was it not capitalistic?
>>1412975
>socially speaking, the Third Reich, was severely bent on traditionalism and anti-Marxism
to a degree, but they didn't have this traditional/reactionary notion of dismissing every piece of progress since the French Revolution
I don't think they embraced monarchy, even with Adolf Hitler as the Führer, he appears to me to embody the spirit of the people
His legitimacy emerged from the Völk, and not from God
>>1413000
I was speaking in more reference to their reinvestment into traditional apparel and reintroduction of Germanic lifestyles, including a re-embracing of certain pagan ideologies. They were scientifically more progressive because of their investment into the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, Schutzstaffel, and Kreigsmarine, as well as civilian affairs from certain businesses the Reich posed ownership of.
>>1410853
best answer.
