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>the west is more marxist then russia now how did this happen
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>the west is more marxist then russia now

how did this happen
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>>1408053
Gorbachev decided Pizza Hut and giving free speech to nationalist apes was more important than people not being homeless.

Additionally "the west" isn't Marxist at all.
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>>1408053
KGB infiltrators
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>>1408053
KGB infiltrating western academia.
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>>1408053
because spooks
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>>1408053

Marx and Hengels were Germans, they wrote about and for the West.
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>>1408053
College professors, the destruction of the family and the abandoning of millennial children to television and other mindless media.
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>>1408067
Elaborate

>>1408065
Elaborate

>>1408068
Elaborate

Fuck, you guys are bad at giving answers to OP's shitty loaded question
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>>1408086
>Elaborate

It's a meme you dip.
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>>1408066
>all powerful kgb agents infiltrated every western university 60 years ago at the height of the red scare and convinced everyone to eventually become sjws 60 years later

Seriously how dumb do you have to be to believe this shit?
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>>1408086
>Elaborate
I'm saying Gorbachev fucked up and opened up the Eastern bloc to hardline nationalists and global capitalist interests and as such Russia is not in any way Marxist.

The second point was that the west isn't Marxist at all. But I suppose I should ask what OP thinks is Marxist about the west?
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>>1408112
the cultural aspect

decay of family, decay of the nation state, and decay of religion
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>>1408086
>giving answers
Op didn't ask a question
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>>1408065
A society that values equality over liberty will have neither :^)
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>>1408102
They did though, "long march through the institutions" and all that.
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>>1408120
>Decay of family
>Decay of the nation state
>Decay of religion
I would hazard that Russia is a worse offender for all of these on the count it's a haven of prostitution, it's never even been a nation state and it's like 30% atheist.
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>>1408053

the West is also more Nazi than Germany. It's still a tiny, tiny minority.
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>>1408053
>the west is more marxist then russia now
It's not. The commie party is one of the biggest in Russia, whereas Communists are ultra-irrelevant in the west except in some meme countries like Greece.
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>>1408146
I agree, they're mutually inseparable. Additionally private property is the exact opposite of liberty.
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>>1408120
>le cultural marxist meme

You should actually kill yourself if you get the chance.
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>>1408181
Prostitusion is legal in Amsterdam
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>>1408199
>Prostitusion is legal in Amsterdam
Yes and all of the prostitutes in Amsterdam are Russians
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>>1408192
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>>1408146
that's right anon, the goyim will believe our free market ideas soon
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>>1408201
>Posts some tumblr cartoon
do you have a point?
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>>1408200
Made legal by Dutch politicians who were voted in by Dutch people
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>>1408201
fugin jooz :DDDD
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>>1408211
Dutch people who would never consider working in that place.
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>>1408192
oh shut the fuck up
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>>1408210
Yes I do and it is that there is an influential portion of mainstream culture that promotes "cultural marxism" (i.e. the destabilization of traditional values).
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>>1408221
>spouts memes
>expects to be taken seriously
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>>1408201
Oh shit I completely forgot about the chapter in Das Kapital where Marx goes off on a tangent about wanting to cut his dick off
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>>1408226
>"cultural marxism" (i.e. the destabilization of traditional values).
That's literally an internet meme. It's an absolutely retarded basis to say that the West is more Marxist than Russia when the communist party is one of the biggest parties in Russia, and communists are practically non-existent in the west.
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>>1408226
That's capitalism fault. Not cultural marxism.
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>>1408230
Well he was Jewish by birth...
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>>1408230
Really? I remember it pretty vividly, it's the part where he advocates for wealth redistribution. I mean if the party is entitled to your earnings, why shouldn't they be entitled to your cock and balls too?
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>>1408199
Prostitutes in Amsterdam are disproportionately Slavic.
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>>1408241
this desu senpai
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>>1408242
He was born Christian, his dad was Jewish by birth.
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>>1408122
are you so sure

is a question still a question if there's no question mark
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>>1408244
>it's the part where he advocates for wealth redistribution
When did he advocate for that?
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>>1408229
>The nationalities of the peoples associating themselves in accordance with the principle of community will be compelled to mingle with each other as a result of this association and thereby to dissolve themselves, just as the various estate and class distinctions must disappear through the abolition of their basis, private property.

>All religions so far have been the expression of historical stages of development of individual peoples or groups of peoples.

>bases of traditional marriage – the dependence rooted in private property, of the women on the man, and of the children on the parents.

feel free to read a book
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>>1408241
>implying they arent one and the same
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>>1408237
It's a meme alright but it's not just on the internet.

>>1408241
Are you seriously suggesting that the increase in tranny related programming is the result of the demands of average Americans and not top-down social conditioning? So Joe Sixpack from Duluth really wants pic related to be on tv?
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>>1408066
LMAO
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>>1408201
Doesn't look like it has shit for a budget or market appeal desu

Those stills look cringey.
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The West invented Marxism lmao
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>people STILL think marxism = communism
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>>1408272
>People in different regions of the world have different tastes

Shit, how did you know?
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>>1408281
the bloke wrote the communist manifesto I'm pretty sure they're not dissimilar
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>>1408263
In order for workers to gain control of the means of production it is necessary to redistribute capital assets.
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>>1408272
This >>1408226 was the highest-selling issues of Vanity Fair in five years, does that tell you something?
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>traditional values are under attack
noone's stopping anyone from having your traditional values and going to church
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>>1408291
No marx planned on removing the idea of property not redistributing it lmao

You're thinking of european socialism which was completely seperate
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>>1408287
marxism is a school of thought that only focuses on materialism

communism is a radical application of that philosophy in the real world

ops question kinda makes sense i guess
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>>1408291
But you aren't necessarily redistributing anything, you're just dissolving the legal protections that make "private property" a thing. Additionally the second point of that post

> I mean if the party is entitled to your earnings
Implies "wealth redistribution" as used by liberals, rather than loosely describing the communist ambition of worker control of the means of production.
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>>1408186
Not true, you should be free to have property. The government is there to ensure access to necessities like education, security and healthcare, as well as regulate abuses.
People should be free to own, to speak, to act without infringing, to live and to die.
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>>1408294
Yep that print media is dying and has to rely on shock value to boost interest.
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>>1408297
>>1408301
By removing the idea of property you ARE redistributing it; my property is no longer mine because it belongs to everyone now...
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>>1408255
>>1408270
>>1408272

Capitalism has no regard for traditional or cultural values. It's aim is to create a standardized world where everywhere is the same.
Same housing, same hotels, same restaurants, same airports, same clothing stores etc.
People like Bruce Jenner are a victimes of capitalism. People which have so much, but they still aren't happy, they want more. So that's why he convinced himself that he's a women and made that surgery. I bet deep down he still isn't happy.

Cultural marxism has nothing to do with marxism. It's a counter-conspiracy to make conspiracy theorists appear even more crazy. Like the Flat earth
And no, i'm not a communist. I think communism and capitalism are biggest failure models of the 20th century. I believe we need something new.
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>>1408304
it belongs to nobody
so anyone can use it
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>>1408302
Have property, yes, personal property that is. Private property on the other hand is theft of the highest order and must be annihilated in order for the overwhelming majority of the population (including everyone ITT probably) to fully actualize their freedom without the fruits of their labour being robbed on the spooky basis of private property.

Also ideally the government shouldn't be there at all.
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>>1408303
>Yep that print media is dying and has to rely on shock value to boost interest.
Capitalism at its finest, do you have a problem with that?
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>>1408308
Yes it's been redistributed from belonging to me to belonging to no one/everyone.
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>>1408296
The point is everybody else in media is for this stuff. So my family in 200 years may eventually transition to a relgionless statelss familyless society. I know you cant conceptulaize things that are beyond your biological self because you're Marxist, but i dont want that.
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>>1408304
But you aren't, nothing has changed except the state isn't enforcing your claim to property anymore. The "property" in question wasn't given to anyone else, it was just done away with.

Likewise if your computer were to vanish into thin air it wasn't redistributed from someone to no one, it simply ceased to be.
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>>1408312
You have a very abstract idea of "redistribution"
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>>1408318
If your descendents in 200 years want to be communists then fair enough. But it's not really any of your business, nor is it even in your power no matter what's going on in the wider world.
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>>1408306
mark and engels literally wrote about the changing of culture under marxist thought. How the fuck is it a conspiracy theory? >>1408264
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>>1408303
>there are people who will believe that
The USA had ALWAYS been quite odd and 'progressive' when compared to Europe, Russia and the rest of the world.
Even if we just take that picture, those 'tradtional values' aren't as traditional as you think. I mean a women kissing a complete stranger in the middle of the road? That's just 'degeneracy'. The entire anti-colonialist notion the US sported through it's existence went quite against the idea of western superiority embedded within european imperialism.
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>>1408322
If I own a factory and Marxists take over, that factory doesn't "vanish into thin air" it becomes an asset of the "community;" what was once my factory is no longer my factory because it has been "redistributed."
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>>1408324
>But it's not really any of your business
it literally is. I want to show them what it means to be human. I dont want them to fall into the trap of materialism.
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>>1408264
>If you abolish private property the institutions reliant on private property will crumble

>Therefore cultural Marxism

It's like you're looking for a conspiracy
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>>1408167
>Progressivism
>Marxist
wat.
Progressivism is so american it deep fried and dipped in butter
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>>1408318
>The point is everybody else in media is for this stuff. So my family in 200 years may eventually transition to a relgionless statelss familyless society. I know you cant conceptulaize things that are beyond your biological self because you're Marxist, but i dont want that.

Not everyone in the media is against it, there is right wing media, that's becoming bigger and more popular every day, because people like alternatives.

If your family want to transition to new values today or 200 years from now, that's their choice. If they started enforcing their choices on you, would you be happy?

Everyone can conceptualize things that happen after their own deaths, people are just saying that the ability to conceptualize disappears after death, for obvious reasons.

What you want is again irrelevant to what other people want. You have your stuff, they will have theirs - is this really so hard to understand.

Your post is a train wreck, a disaster and you are really really bad at this, and generally incredibly memed up.
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>>1408334
But it hasn't, the factory isn't anyone's property anymore. The material makings of the factory are still there, but any air of property to it is about as present as the gaps in your fingers. It has ceased to be property, it wasn't given to anyone but rather the institutions that allowed you to claim it have just been done away with.
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>>1408311
I'm arguing that the fact that there is even a mainstream market for tranny related content is evidence of how traditional values have been subverted by media and academic cultural Marxism.
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>>1408356
Noone's stopping YOU from being as traditional as YOU want.
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>>1408355
YES I KNOW IT NOT MY PROPERTY ANYMORE BUT THE POINT IS THAT IT USED TO BE MY PROPERTY BUT NOW IT IS NOT MY PROPERTY AND THIS MEANS THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT TRANSFORMED WHAT WAS ONCE MY PROPERTY INTO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT MY PROPERTY. THIS SOMETHING IS CALLED REDISTRIBUTION.
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>>1408342
The whole fucking point is that the average person dosent look at these things as institutions based on private property. And a very materialistic and marxist person simply looks at them as an ebil social constructs and seeks to dismantle them because muh hate speech.
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>>1408272
>So Joe Sixpack from Duluth really wants pic related to be on tv?
No but Jane Sixpack from California does.
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>>1408340
Then do so, but at the end of the day only they can make that call.

This isn't really a matter of anything really but your limited power in shaping the future. Maybe they will be traditionalists, maybe they will be communists, but no one alive today has the power to force their beliefs into the future. The best you can hope to do is share your beliefs with your children, but even then it's up to them to reject or embrace them.
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>>1408377
thats what im fucking saying.
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>>1408312
I dont think you know what distribution means
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>>1408377
>it's up to them to reject or embrace them.
NO! They will have my beliefs, because my beliefs are right and traditions must last forever. My traditions.

Everyone must have my values, or I can't enjoy my community/country anymore.
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>>1408364
Unless I own a bakery and a couple of homos want me to make them a wedding cake.

Or unless I don't want men in dresses to use the same bathroom as my daughter.

Or unless I don't want a sexual deviant to be my son's boy scout leader.
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>>1408368
Yes, the institutions that allowed you to lay claim to "property" are gone. It was redistributed from one party to another, it's that what once was is no more.

The material makings of the factory haven't gone anywhere, but rather the concept of the factory being property is just lifted.
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>>1408373
Jane Sixpack with a degree in Gender Studies from Shekelberg University? You don't say!
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>>1408384
Then maybe there's been a miscommunication here.

I'm saying it's none of your business because it's beyond your power.
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>>1408368

No. The state just stopped enforcing property rights. Bloody statists, always wanting the government to do everything for you.
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>>1408392
this is not Marx's fault senpai, blame american individualism
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>>1408403
>implying I can't enforce my own property rights with a little help from Smith & Wesson

>implying the commies wouldn't violate my property rights with Kalashnikovs.
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>>1408392
How does trannies using toilets affects your daughter

You have a point about the cake constituionally, but how does you baking a cake, as you would bake for any other couple really affect you being traditional in your own personal life

i agree about the sexual deviant thing, though that was common place before and has been for a long time, so..

You can't shit on other people's freedoms just to preserve a group's traditional values, simple as that and if those values are against freedoms, those values must make way
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>>1408409
>It's okay when I use guns to enforce by abstract concept but when people try to contest my force with guns it's a violation of """"""""""property"""""""""" """""""""""rights"""""""""""
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>>1408272
It is actually capitalism though.
Consider
>trannies become accepted and treated as normal
>becoming one isn't as taboo as it was
>surgeons, cosmetics and medical industry rake in that dough
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>>1408401
what do you mean its beyond my power? Im going to raise a child how i see fit. Im going to nurture the best family values and urge him to pass them on and to do the same. If enlightenment values get lost in the future oh well, i did my part. Saying you have little influence on the future generations and their ideology, therefore you shouldnt try is stupid
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>>1408416
What about my daughter's freedom to be free from exposure to sexual paraphilias?

You can't just dismiss people's beliefs over "muh freedom" because that sword cuts both ways.
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>>1408425
>trannies become accepted and treated as normal
>becoming one isn't as taboo as it was
>surgeons, cosmetics and medical industry rake in that dough

I wonder who could be behind this?
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>>1408430
>freedom to be free from exposure to sexual paraphilias?
no such freedom
your daughter doesn't have a clue about any of that anyway

it's a little shitty you are using your probably hypothetical daughter as a shield in your losing arguments instead of using yourself, because that's who really matters

it's really shitty
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>>1408409

You want to violently steal?
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>>1408427
I'm not saying you shouldn't try, I'm saying what people believe in 200 years is vastly beyond the power of anyone alive.

You have some power over the influences on your children, that is your business, but you don't have power over what they choose to believe, that's not your business. Likewise you have no power to influence what your descendants believe after you're dead, nor do you have any power over what they choose to believe, so it's not your business in any way. It's simply not worth worrying about, it's like getting mad over being stuck in traffic.
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>>1408444
No such freedom in your opinion? Well in my opinion there's no such freedom for a man to demand society to treat him as a woman.
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When is pedophilia becoming normal?

Shouldn't be too long now, right?
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>>1408471
https://www.salon.com/2016/05/17/im_not_a_monster_a_pedophile_on_attraction_love_and_a_life_of_loneliness/
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>>1408471
I hope
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I'm not mad though thats the thing. Its liberals that are mad. I'm just doing what every human being has done since the beginning of civilization. All i want to tell people is that there are ideals that exist beyond biological needs. Ive seen way to many people in my generation fall for the "its only a social construct" meme that i want to revive this idealistic thought. These ideals are what civilization is. Civilization is one big social construction. And im going to raise my child with this in mind. And im going to continue to spread the world view to others
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>>1408446
>>1408487
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>>1408487
>All i want to tell people is that there are ideals that exist beyond biological needs.
Tell them then.

You'd be wrong, because humans are animals.

You're so idealistic, the irony of you being so in tune with your liberal generation in that way makes you look incredibly pathetic.
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>>1408487
Yeah, you can do that. I'm talking specifically about this point

>. So my family in 200 years may eventually transition to a relgionless statelss familyless society.
It's a non-problem. It's not worth worrying about for the reasons outlined.
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>>1408471

I've got 10 years till I become the old creepy paedophile, would prefer to be the hot kinda paedophile if it's possible
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>>1408461
well, then don't treat him as a woman
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>>1408501
Same
People seem to think its more acceptable if you're young so I hope sjws can get it accepted quickly

Even I think old pedos are creepy as
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>>1408508
>>1408501
>tfw you're already 22 and not getting younger

Someone expedite this please
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>>1408502
>don't treat him as a woman
>be punished by the state and society for transphobia
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>>1408495
What the hell is wrong with chasing these ideals? Does it matter if these world religion are true or not? The whole point of the human experience is finding purpose
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>>1408534
> The whole point of the human experience is finding purpose
>purpose
>meaning
>point of the human experience
lmao
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>>1408526
>by the state
where

if you disagree with someone's lifestyle you don't engage in it, don't become a tranny

no need to be an asshole to trannies

noone will do anything to you if you just say 'i disagree with their lifestyle, so I won't engage in it'
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>>1408392
america created gays, in the Russia and the soviet union gays are seen as they are, a mental disorder. Only in american capitalism and liberalism can such a homo culture become prevalent. In the soviet union there was no degeneracy only when gorbie the faggot opened the country up did the western disease come pooring in. Truely the fall soviet union was the biggest tragedy that ever happened to the world.
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>>1408552
>america created gays
historically inaccurate you gaseous form of fecal matter go back to the intestines that pushed you into this world
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>>1408053
Even if your statement is true, the problem with Russia was never the Marxism, it was the Russians.
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>>1408552
You're just mad because having gay sex is more fun than the traditional Russian hobbies of drinking alone and crouching next to buildings.
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>>1408547
>t. 15 year old edgemeister
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>>1408547
Not an argument
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>>1408572
I disagree with that guy but both of those sound a lot more fun than gay sex
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>>1408577
>Saying that life has no meaning is edgy.
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>>1408318
>So my family in 200 years may eventually transition to a relgionless statelss familyless society.
Maybe, or maybe you'll be killed in a nuclear holocaust or live inside a computer. 200 years is a ridiculous amount of time to be speculating.
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>>1408581
>>1408577
t. /pol/acks getting spanked
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>>1408591
Life does have a meaning. Fuck a person of the opposite sex and make an offspring to spread your genes.
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>>1408582
People think gay sex is 100 percent anal all the time. Like chill out. You can just put on The X-Files and swap BJ's and hang out and shit.
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>>1408595
If that's the objective meaning of life then why doesn't everyone do it?

Checkmate, /pol/.
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>>1408598
Some people are objectively better then others.
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>>1408053
>people don't know the difference between then and than now

how did this happen
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>>1408602
>>1408600
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>>1408600
>Some people are objectively better than others
What's your objective measure of people?

>inb4 how much they reproduce
Why does that make them better?
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Muh biology
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>>1408549
if a man can be in an intimate space like the toilet with my daughter under the pretense that he is also a girl and society/the government says that he is right and he is a girl and should be peeing next to my daughter then what recourse do i have as a parent if i just think he is a sicko and don't want him near my child let alone in the bathroom with her?
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>>1408614
Go in the bathroom with her.
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>>1408607
For a female
>Wide hips
>not a landwhale
>Is fertile

For a male
>Physically fit
>Has a working penis that can put his seed into a women's vagina

Also both should have a lack of retardation and genetic disorders.
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>>1408614
You could just go to the bathroom with your daughter, like most parents do when they're young. A freak of nature criminal tranny is going to try something regardless of whether the government says they can legally be there or not
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>>1408616
how will that stop the man from pissing near her?
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>>1408617
Are you physically fit? Get in my guard bro right now I'll tap you out in 10 seconds
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>>1408620
How is that even a problem?
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>>1408617
Why do those make people better? And how are they objective?
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>>1408618
at least when its illegal i can rest assured that these deviants are seen for what they are but to force me to acknowledge that some dude who gets off on wearing panties is allowed to use the girls restroom because he is legally a girl is a step too far my friend
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>>1408632
Just like how we can use gun free zones to let people acknowledge that guns are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed
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>>1408614
there you go hiding behind someone else again you pathetic shit

you do know that the people who would peep at your daughter aren't real trannies right

man, if it wasn't for that shit 'law' you wouldn't even have a semblance of an argument, not that you have one now
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>>1408430
>What about my daughter's freedom to be free from exposure to sexual paraphilias?
"What about my daughter's freedom from exposure to racist hate speech?"

"What about my daughter's freedom from exposure to sexism?"

"What about my daughter's freedom from exposure to mean things on the internet?"

Do you see the problem with this line of reasoning?

If you want your daughter guaranteed to be normal then
a) invest in gene research because most of this shit is genetic
b) Don't rape her as a child
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>>1408628
i am not comfortable with allowing perverts in intimate spaces with my daughter
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>>1408632
>to force me to acknowledge
then don't acknowledge it retard, noone can open up your head and start forcing you to have thoughts
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>>1408643
What can go wrong if you're there?
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>>1408636
a citizen is required to respect legal categories and if the government treats a tranny as a female then so must i on a public level
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>>1408645
>>1408651
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>>1408075

>Muh millenials
>implying that Boomers aren't litterally "the TV generation"
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>>1408646
you cannot prevent a pervert from being lewd
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>>1408656
>>1408651
the government treats you as my equal, even though you are so much more stupid then me and i don't treat you as my equal

still i wouldn't deny you service in my business or as a public servant

privately i would just ignore you

why can't you do that
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>>1408664
You could beat the shit out of them for attempting to molest your daughter. I think that would work.
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>>1408669
to say that a man is a woman is a lie and the government has no right to force me to lie
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>>1408674
the damage would already be done at that point
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>>1408306
>Same housing, same hotels, same restaurants, same airports, same clothing stores etc.
You're a moron. Entrepreneurs hate competition and work their hardest to make their own products unique in a way or another, thus being able to charge a bit more for their products.
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>>1408643

You do understand how public toilets work, right?
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>>1408687
Not if it's a chain or a virtual monopoly. Also doesn't explain why every frozen yogurt shop I walk into looks exactly the same
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>>1408676
well saying races with higher IQ(for ex. asians) are the same as races with lower IQ and should have same rights is a lie too, yet you say it eagerly, because you don't want to be treated like a sub human
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>>1408696
it's the principle:

>>1408651
>>1408676
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>>1408309

>fruits of their labour being robbed on the spooky basis of private property.

and you have the gall to call us spooked. Tell me how a person whose government provides them with free healthcare, welfare, and housing is being robbed of their labor by agreeing to sell it for a mutually beneficial wage. They aren't being forced into it, there's no coercion since they wont starve if they don't have a job.
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>>1408702
>muh IQ

if asians are so smart why do they wear blazers?
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>>1408703
A man can be woman. If he has a condition. Such a condition is deficient test receptors.

Such a condition is being a tranny.
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>>1408712
what are chromosomes?

what is a uterus?

what are ova?
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>>1408707
Because they made the thing, yet by some voodoo magic their boss owns the thing.
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>>1408701
Because some kinds of business tend to be more atomised while others tend to concentrate the market, guess which kind is more profitable. Are you telling me there's no difference between computer parts, OSses, smartphones, cars and what not?
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>>1408702
honestly i think iq is a meaningless metric and think all races should have equal rights because we are all biologically homo sapien but people who are biologically male should not be legally treated as if they are biologically female
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>>1408719
men have these organs, though developed differently, it's homologue organs, fyi men have a little undeveloped node thing in the upper part of their urethra, which is what becomes uterus in females, that's just to show how much more I know than you about biology and you need to shut up when faced with people that know more than you and have the facts

that's not what makes a man a man, it's sex reverse gene on Y and testosterone

there are millions of women that don't have a uterus due to hysterectomy

do you think X, XYY, XXX, XXXXX are males or females

see, it's not as simple as you think
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>>1408746
i wonder why they develop differently? it's almost like there's something that causes that... also wouldn't the fact that they develop differently show that they are in fact, different?
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>>1408318
>relgionless statelss familyless society.

Can you explain what's bad about this?
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>>1408340
Why do YOU get to decide what it 'means to be human'?
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>>1408780
children are healthiest and happiest in a strong loving family and biological kinship bonds cannot be artificially replicated by the state
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>>1408595
That's not a 'meaning'. The universe doesn't give a shit whether you do that or not.
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>>1408790
>stateless
>"the state"
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>>1408797
fine.

the """"""""community"""""""""
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>>1408746
>do you think X, XYY, XXX, XXXXX are males or females
they are X, XYY, XXX, XXXXX or whatever specific medical condition results in developmental abnormalities, it doesn't stop XY being male or XX being female

That said, homosexuality is innate, it is due to someone's brain developing like that of a heterosexual of the opposite sex in the womb. /pol/ is completely wrong to say it is a mere fetish like diapers, pedophilia or furries.

This is what I don't understand. Science is on your side and it is not difficult for a layperson to study this a little, if you're not stupid enough to fall for pseudoscience, and BTFO /pol/ and other memesters. However for some reason you don't, you prefer to create your own memes. The culprit probably being clickbait bloggers and the like, they don't want clear answers, that would reduce your demand for their media.
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>>1408808
Pedophilia aren't mere fetish. It have the kind of a same mechanic of differently wired brain from the birth
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>>1408471
>>1408814
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>>1408798
Okay, how is that any more artificial than a nuclear family?
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>>1408631
good genes
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>>1408808
>mere fetish like diapers, pedophilia or furries
>pedophilia
>fetish

Do you even fucking know what you're talking about?
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>>1408814
This is incomprehensible
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>>1408808
being a tranny is a medical condition too, at least in some cases it seems to me a person with XY actually feels like a woman

btw that stuff about the womb isn't even confirmed

even if homosexuality was a fetish, which it most likely isn't, given it's prevalence throughout history, despite the womb theory being unconfirmed, it would really change little imo if it turned out to be a very common fetish

anyway
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>>1408826
So genetics are you measure of quality in a person?

Why should your good genetics or lack of matter to you?
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>>1408821
because a child carries their parent's DNA so the bond is literally biological and not artificial...

...i-is this how it feels to be trolled?
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>>1408826
name 15 genes

no googles please
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>>1408842
Is it though?

Adopted children don't have an inherent bond to their biological parents.
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>>1408844
oh dear god
"good genes" is just a concept you tard
Good genes depend on the environment, to some the genes that make people black are good because they find black people attractive, whereas to others they're unattractive

"Good genes" is a concept that is very variable and subjective
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>>1408837
>being a tranny is a medical condition

Agreed.
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>>1408471
There is nothing wrong with being a pedophile, if you aren't raping children which is wrong even if you aren't pedophile and just child molester.
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>>1408846
>Is it though?

lol

yes yes i was trolled good job!

bye now
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>>1408102

nice try ivan
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>>1408855
Not an argument.
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>>1408848
no, i'm juts conducting a 4chan wide study of people who like to use the word genetics or genes

so far the conclusion has been they know nothing about it beyond those two words

pathetic really, in the age of the itnernet
>>1408852
so is being diabetic, you still treat them with hormones, if type 1

anyway
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>>1408053
>I don't know what Marxism is
If anything, the west is more fascist than ever before, and less Marxists than it's ever been. (With the possible exception of the IT industry startups, which tend to use a Marxist shared ownership worker coop model.)

When the central government is abolished, and everything is broken down into independent areas of production, where the workers own and control the means there of, and distribute the resulting resources as they choose, then you can start screaming about Marxism.

Russia just *promised* communism, it never delivered. They merely went to the crisis stage, where the central government controls everything, but never went to the communist stage, where the central government is abolished in favor of local communes.
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>>1408872
nobody needs a scientific knowledge on genes because the amount one can know is so small and it's like analysing a mosaic by inspecting each individual tile

You need to look at the big picture to understand, knowing a gene simply isn't useful if you're talking about concepts like evolution or natural/sexual selection
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>>1408888
impressive
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>>1408814
>>1408832
>Do you even fucking know what you're talking about?
Yes.

>kind of a same mechanic

Homosexuality is strongly linked to prenatal hormonal conditions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation

While pedophilia has another mechanism which bares no apparent relation to this.

http://www.journalofpsychiatricresearch.com/article/S0022-3956(07)00185-9/abstract?cc=y=

>>1408837
Do you know of any evidence of body image being as innate as sexual orientation and other gender specific behaviors? It is difficult to separate nature from nurture

>that stuff about the womb isn't even confirmed
There is an overwhelming amount of evidence in favor of it, specific regions of the brain develop or remain undeveloped depending on hormonal conditions in the womb and these regions of the brain influence sexual orientation. Also if sexual orientation is not innate that kind of contradicts your other argument, how could transexualism be innate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INAH_3

>even if homosexuality was a fetish it would really change little imo
This is true. Morally there would still be nothing wrong. However it is a prerequisite for /pol/'s conspiracy theory that homosexuality is due to marxist brainwashing in the media and degeneracy.
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More evidence. Nature and nurture should be taught in every high school biology classroom.
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>>1408957
You can't assume scientific research on pedophilia at the moment to be thorough because of the stigma associated to it

No pedos can leave the closet nowadays, and until it's possible we're unlikely to gain very much knowledge of it
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>>1408957
>source
>wikipedia
Stopped reading there
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>>1408968
please dont be another pseud to disregard all wikipedia articles without even seeing the source

i disagree with his post but you cant drop something because of muh feels
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>>1408053
The West became Marxist when Marxism was redefined to mean anything other than conservatism.
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>>1408961
>tfw index finger is longer than the ring finger
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>>1408957
> bares no apparent relation to this.
The same in that sense that it wasn't just the fetish, not at technical one about how exactly it works.
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>>1408961
>tfw you find out you're a girl
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>>1408526
>"Sorry, but despite you identifying as being transferred woman I still consider you a man so I won't let you use this female public restroom in this restaurant I own."
>States penalizes you with fines for discrimination
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>>1409019
Shit meant to quote >>1408549
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Mass education and university indoctrination.
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>>1409019
Barring any tall women with strong jawlines from using your bathroom sounds like a great way to get sued by a biological German girl
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>>1409068
Tall german girls are shit
It's the short ones that are just lovely
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>>1408643
>>1408614
>>1408620
A pervert will still go into the womens restroom regardless of whether they have the pretense of
being female or not. If a flasher is standing in the bathroom exposing themself to others, they're going to get in the same amount of trouble regardless if they're trans or not.
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>>1408636
This if someone's going to break the law, they'll do it. Regardless of the consequences.
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>>1408735

Bosses put in far more valuable abstract labor.

Machine capital costs money to operate, maintain, and repair. Bosses need to allocate materials, make advertisement decisions to create demand, negotiate contracts, oversee management of the workplace, find someone to ship the product to market, etc. They are in competition with others that requires them to constantly cut costs and improve their final product. If the product doesn't sell they're fucked. Without the boss the workers will be out-competed by firms with superior and more cost-effective management. Without the boss the workers don't have guaranteed paychecks.

You should try meeting some small business owners sometime.
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