[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo
What is the most overrated weapon in history? >Pic related
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.

You are currently reading a thread in /his/ - History & Humanities

Thread replies: 45
Thread images: 14
File: WB-111.png (78 KB, 850x850) Image search: [Google]
WB-111.png
78 KB, 850x850
What is the most overrated weapon in history?

>Pic related
>>
>>1392572
no
>>
>>1392572
>a weapon used for literally thousands of years by all kinds of cultures around the entire world
>"overrated"
full retard
>>
File: 1459404406284.jpg (764 KB, 1500x825) Image search: [Google]
1459404406284.jpg
764 KB, 1500x825
>>1392572
t. Pierre
>>
File: agincourt.jpg (143 KB, 634x541) Image search: [Google]
agincourt.jpg
143 KB, 634x541
>>1392572
t. buttblasted frenchie

2 world wars and 1 world cup m8
>>
>>1392572
probably underrated today, since we tend to glamorize close combat
>>
File: IMG_9969.jpg (20 KB, 524x141) Image search: [Google]
IMG_9969.jpg
20 KB, 524x141
>>1392572
>arquebus
Perfectly good for one shot before the battle but it hardly revolutionized the battlefield until it's bigger badder cousin the musket became mass-produced
>>
File: attempt.png (29 KB, 480x480) Image search: [Google]
attempt.png
29 KB, 480x480
>>1392572
>>
>>1392572
>>1392583
Sorry, missread.

Bow has a pretty strong psychological impact and fills it role in combat by being scary. It is not so fun being a frontline soldier charging through volleys of bow fire.

I would say any heavy great sword/axe or whatever wouls be the most overrated
>>
File: a84.jpg (40 KB, 1200x675) Image search: [Google]
a84.jpg
40 KB, 1200x675
> Tzar Bomba
> It's was so strong...
> That it was never used
What is even a point? At least bows killed somebody.
>>
>>1392587
It's more about the English Longbow. There's a whole myth surrounding it. I've seen people claim that it's better than an AK47.
>>
>>1392594
>until it's bigger badder cousin the musket
arquebus is the bigger and badder one. that's pretty much the point that made musket more practical.
>>
>>1392594
I'm pretty sure the Ottomans and the Japanese disagree with that. The arquebus changed the way the Japs fought and all the successful warlords wanted to get their hands on them. The Japanese also used them to good use during their invasion of Korea.
>>
>>1392611
The point is MAD.
>>
File: scorpio.jpg (1 MB, 2998x2147) Image search: [Google]
scorpio.jpg
1 MB, 2998x2147
Imagine how fucking badass would it have been to have manned one of these during the Gallic wars, dropping smelly Gauls from 100 meters with ease and knowing you have the privilege of operating the most advanced individually-served weapon ever devised (at the time).
>>
>>1392614
That's another weapon with a lot of memes

>you can drag it through 5 miles of,mud and shit and it will still fire xDDDD
>>
These were only cool because it was such a bitch to dogfight in them.

WW2 made damn good use of planes, but they didn't do much in WW1. Fuck the Red Baron.
>>
>>1392637
really the just supplanted or supplemented bows, they didn't change to much except siege warfare
>>
File: Kult of Katana Klan.jpg (52 KB, 1191x670) Image search: [Google]
Kult of Katana Klan.jpg
52 KB, 1191x670
Win button
>>
>>1392691
I would be even more happy to be roman
>>
>>1392691
i never understood why they even bothered to make something like that outside scientific research. anyone can see that it has literally nothing but disadvantages over rope-powered ballista.
>>
>>1392588
>>1392590
Longbows did literally nothing at Agincourt. Bows are a great weapon, but no against armoured targets
>>
>>1392715
Spotting was incredibly important during ww1
>>
>>1392611
The Tzar bomba was used you stupid faggot. Not on humans, but it was used.
>>
>>1394319
This. It was shitty muddy terrain and the English well fortified position that did fucked the French. Longbows got cucked at Patay by 1500 Franks while the English had about 5000 longbows.
>>
File: spot the sword.jpg (3 MB, 3501x2333) Image search: [Google]
spot the sword.jpg
3 MB, 3501x2333
>>1392572
>>1394208
Swords in general. Apart from the Roman gladius, they were almost all secondary weapons. Most troops until the introduction of guns were using either polearms or bows. Horsemen such as knights would charge in with lances and would only pull their swords if they lost their lances. And even then, many of them preferred maces, war picks or axes, which are better against armor. Infantry were mostly using polearms in a phalanx-like formation, especially because not everyone could afford a sword.

The sword was a very good personal weapon, you can carry it with you while doing your own thing and use it for self defense against bandits and such, but it wasn't a primary weapon of war. The modern equivalent of it would be a handgun, while polearms would be assault rifles.
>>
File: Duan Jian.jpg (91 KB, 799x599) Image search: [Google]
Duan Jian.jpg
91 KB, 799x599
>>1394513
>Swords
>Overrated
You can carry it around with you as you walk town m8. Thereby making it a primary weapon.

And swords have more "business" to it than a hatchet or a club. Wear a sword in Imperial China, the Holy Roman Empire, or the Italian City states meant that pleb robbers ad shitty people in general should not play you for shit.
>>
>>1394555
Yes, a primary weapon for civilians, like a modern handgun. But not a primary weapon of war.
>>
>>1394208
>glorious nippon steel folded 1000000000000 times
>>
>>1392572
1v1 me irl
You can have a sword, axe, mace, war hammer, katana, or spear
And I'll take the bow and arrow
>>
>>1394696
And I'll take the shield.
>>
>>1392572
spear
>>
>>1394717
It just happened it was used all around the world by both peasant levies and proffesional soldiers or even pharaohs right?
>>
>>1392614
The longbow has a small recurve at either end, the bow pictured does not.
>>
>>1394715
t. Jon Snow
>>
File: image.jpg (2 MB, 4032x3024) Image search: [Google]
image.jpg
2 MB, 4032x3024
>>1395880
Um no.
>>
File: image.jpg (2 MB, 4032x3024) Image search: [Google]
image.jpg
2 MB, 4032x3024
>>1395880
And even more no
>>
>>1395971
death star eh?
>>
>>1395978
;)
>>
File: 1468175738413.jpg (172 KB, 1280x908) Image search: [Google]
1468175738413.jpg
172 KB, 1280x908
>>1392572

Every single battleship produced after 1921. Doesn't matter where it was made or what the design was.
>>
>>1394513
I would say the Norse, Anglo-Saxon and Frisian seaxs are also exceptions to the rule that swords are useless in infantry combat. The small blades could find gaps in shield walls and cause damage to the front line by stabbing the upper legs and groins of men.
>>
>>1394513
This post couldn't be more wrong.

Swords have been the primary weapon on combat in every single case where it could be afforded.
>>
>>1396347
Swords were almost always sidearms, and spears and other pole weapons were almost always the primary and favored weapon. This is not an opinion, it is a fact.
>>
>>1392617
No it isn't.

The terms harquebus, caliver and musket refereed to the caliber of the weapon.

Harquebuses were the smallest caliber at 20-24 gauge and muskets were the largest at 10-12 gauge. Calivers were in between at 16-18 gauge.
>>
>>1392572
Idk about overrated, but the staff is probably one of the most underrated.
Thread replies: 45
Thread images: 14

banner
banner
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com, send takedown notices to them.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need IP information for a Poster - you need to contact them. This website shows only archived content.