Some Fathers on Sola Scriptura:
"The holy and inspired Scriptures are fully sufficient for the proclamation of the truth. St. Athanasius (Against the Heathen, I:3)
"Regarding the things I say, I should supply even the proofs, so I will not seem to rely on my own opinions, but rather, prove them with Scripture, so that the matter will remain certain and steadfast." St. John Chrysostom (Homily 8 On Repentance and the Church, p. 118, vol. 96 TFOTC)
"Let the inspired Scriptures then be our umpire, and the vote of truth will be given to those whose dogmas are found to agree with the Divine words." St. Gregory of Nyssa (On the Holy Trinity, NPNF, p. 327).
"We are not entitled to such license, I mean that of affirming what we please; we make the Holy Scriptures the rule and the measure of every tenet; we necessarily fix our eyes upon that, and approve that alone which may be made to harmonize with the intention of those writings." St. Gregory of Nyssa (On the Soul and the Resurrection NPNF II, V:439)
"What is the mark of a faithful soul? To be in these dispositions of full acceptance on the authority of the words of Scripture, not venturing to reject anything nor making additions. For, if ‘all that is not of faith is sin' as the Apostle says, and ‘faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God,' everything outside Holy Scripture, not being of faith, is sin." Basil the Great (The Morals, p. 204, vol 9 TFOTC).
"We are not content simply because this is the tradition of the Fathers. What is important is that the Fathers followed the meaning of the Scripture." St. Basil the Great (On the Holy Spirit, Chapter 7, par. 16)
For concerning the divine and holy mysteries of the Faith, not even a casual statement must be delivered without the Holy Scriptures; nor must we be drawn aside by mere plausibility and artifices of speech. Even to me, who tell you these things, give not absolute credence, unless you receive the proof of the things which I announce from the Divine Scriptures. For this salvation which we believe depends not on ingenious reasoning, but on demonstration of the Holy Scriptures. St. Cyril of Jerusalem (Catechetical Lectures, IV:17, in NPNF, Volume VII, p. 23.)
Neither dare one agree with catholic bishops if by chance they err in anything, but the result that their opinion is against the canonical Scriptures of God. St. Augustine (De unitate ecclesiae, chp. 10)
Some Fathers on Sola Gratia
But when the Lord Jesus came, He forgave all men that sin which none could escape, and blotted out the handwriting against us by the shedding of His own Blood. This then is the Apostle's meaning; sin abounded by the Law, but grace abounded by Jesus; for after that the whole world became guilty, He took away the sin of the whole world, as John bore witness, saying: Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Wherefore let no man glory in works, for by his works no man shall be justified, for he that is just hath a free gift, for he is justified by the Bath. It is faith then which delivers by the blood of Christ, for Blessed is the man to whom sin is remitted, and, pardon granted. Ambrose (Letter 73, to Irenaeus, a layman)
"After speaking of the wages of sin, in the case of blessings, he has not kept to the same order: for he does not say, the wages of your good deeds, but the gift of God: to show, that it was not of themselves that they were freed, nor was it a due they received, neither yet a return, nor a recompense of labors, but by grace all these things came about. And so there was superiority for this cause also, in that He did not free them only, or change their condition for the better, but that He did it without any labor or trouble upon their part: and that He not only freed them, but also gave them more than before, and that through His Son." - St. John Chrysostom (Epistle to the Romans, Homily 12, Rom 6:23)
you already got BTFO when you posted this on 8ch/christian/, are you sure you are ready for round 2?
Suppose someone should be caught in the act of adultery and the foulest crimes and then be thrown into prison. Suppose, next, that judgment was going to be passed against him and that he would be condemned. Suppose that just at that moment a letter should come from the Emperor setting free from any accounting or examination all those detained in prison. If the prisoner should refuse to take advantage of the pardon, remain obstinate and choose to be brought to trial, to give an account, and to undergo punishment, he will not be able thereafter to avail himself of the Emperor's favor. For when he made himself accountable to the court, examination, and sentence, he chose of his own accord to deprive himself of the imperial gift. This is what happened in the case of the Jews. Look how it is. All human nature was taken in the foulest evils. "All have sinned," says Paul. They were locked, as it were, in a prison by the curse of their transgression of the Law. The sentence of the judge was going to be passed against them. A letter from the King came down from heaven. Rather, the King himself came. Without examination, without exacting an account, he set all men free from the chains of their sins. All, then, who run to Christ are saved by his grace and profit from his gift. Bu those who wish to find justification from the Law will also fall from grace. They will not be able to enjoy the King's loving-kindness because they are striving to gain salvation by their own efforts; they will draw down on themselves the curse of the Law because by the works of the Law no flesh will find justification. Chrysostom (Discourses Against Judaizing Christians. Discourse I:6-II:1)
Some Fathers on Sola Fide:
"Similarly we also, who by His will have been called in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, or our own wisdom or understanding or godliness, nor by such deeds as we have done in holiness of heart, but by that faith through which Almighty God has justified all men since the beginning of time. Glory be to Him, forever and ever, Amen." - St. Clement of Rome (Letter to the Corinthians, par. 32)
"Human beings can be saved from the ancient serpent in no other way than by believing in him who, when he was raised up from the earth on the tree of martyrdom in the likeness of sinful flesh, drew all things to himself and gave life to the dead." - Irenaeus (Against the Heresies, IV, 2, 7).
"Indeed, this is the perfect and complete glorification of God, when one does not exult in his own righteousness, but recognizing oneself as lacking true righteousness to be justified by faith alone in Christ." - St. Basil the Great (Homily on Humility, PG 31.532; TFoTC vol. 9, p. 479)
"They said that he who adhered to faith alone was cursed; but he, Paul, shows that he who adhered to faith alone is blessed." - St. John Chrysostom (First Corinthians, Homily 20, PG 61.164)
"For you believe the faith; why then do you add other things, as if faith were not sufficient to justify? You make yourselves captive, and you subject yourself to the law." - St. John Chrysostom (Epistle to Titus, Homily 3, PG 62.651)
"To declare His righteousness." What is declaring of righteousness? Like the declaring of His riches, not only for Him to be rich Himself, but also to make others rich, or of life, not only that He is Himself living, but also that He makes the dead to live; and of His power, not only that He is Himself powerful, but also that He makes the feeble powerful. So also is the declaring of His righteousness not only that He is Himself righteous, but that He doth also make them that are filled with the putrefying sores (katasapentaj) of sin suddenly righteous. And it is to explain this, viz. what is "declaring," that he has added, "That He might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus." Doubt not then: for it is not of works, but of faith: and shun not the righteousness of God, for it is a blessing in two ways; because it is easy, and also open to all men. And be not abashed and shamefaced. For if He Himself openly declareth (endeiknutai) Himself to do so, and He, so to say, findeth a delight and a pride therein, how comest thou to be dejected and to hide thy face at what thy Master glorieth in? - St. John Chrysostom (Homilies on Romans 3)
Some Fathers on Solus Christus:
Take therefore first, as an indestructible foundation, the Cross, and build upon it the other articles of the faith. - St. Cyril of Jerusalem (Catechetical Lecture 13:38)
God is a great lover of man. He did not hesitate to surrender His Son as prey in order to spare His servant. He surrendered His only-begotten to purchase hard-hearted servants. He paid the blood of His Son as the price. O the philanthropy of the Master! And do not tell me again, "I sinned a lot; how can I be saved?" You cannot save yourself, but your Master can, and to such a great degree as to obliterate your sins. Pay attention very carefully to the discourse. He wipes out the sins so completely that not a single trace of them remains. – Chrysostom (Homily 8 on Repentance and the Church TFOTC, pp. 116,117)
"Christ is Master by virtue of His own essence and Master by virtue of His incarnate life. For He creates man from nothing, and through His own blood redeems him when dead in sin; and to those who believe in Him He has given His grace. When Scripture says, 'He will reward every man according to his works' (Matt 16:27), do not imagine that works in themselves merit either hell or the kingdom. On the contrary, Christ rewards each man according to whether his works are done with faith or without faith in Himself; and He is not a dealer bound by contract, but our Creator and Redeemer." St. Mark the Ascetic (ca. 425), (On those who think that they are made righteous by works – in the Philokalia)
Lutheran Approach to the Fathers:
"They were human beings who could err and be deceived." Ap XXVI:95
"Other writings of ancient or contemporary writers, whatever their names may be, shall not be regarded as equal to Holy Scripture, but all of them together shall be subjected to it, and not be accepted in any other way, or with any further authority, than as witnesses of how and where the teaching of the prophets and apostles was preserved after the time of the apostles." FC Ep Intro:2
"Since, then, this teaching (the AC) is clearly grounded in Holy Scripture and is, moreover, neither against nor contrary to the universal Christian Church – or even the Roman Church – so far as can be observed from the writings of the Fathers, we think our opponents cannot disagree with us in the articles set forth above." AC Part One, Conclusion:1
"For we love and venerate the testimonies of the ancient and purer church, by whose agreement we are both aided and confirmed; but our faith must rest on the word of God, no on human authority. Therefore we do not set the testimonies of the fathers over the Scripture, but subordinate them to it." - Chemnitz, Examen I:150
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>>1387628
Shiposting about burning at the stake does not BTFO
This kills the heretic
>>1387662
>bump
?? The last post had only been 5 minutes previous
>>1387614 >>1387619 >>1387623 >>1387633 >>1387637 >>1387640 >>1387642 >>1387643
Is this your blog?
Or possibly your computer's clipboard?
Is there any OC in your posts?
Normally a thesis has OC and not just, as the 4channers say, creepypasta.
As always, thank you for shitposting on 4chan.
Come back when you have OC to make a coherent argument and will will be happy to discuss it with you.
>>1387689
It's not a meme you retarded summerfag
>heretics BTFO
>>1387693
First, I am not a summer cigarette
Secondly, what is not a meme?
>MEME (noun) an element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation.
OPs posts, which are only minor memes since they are not commonly accepted. Most people don't believe in Sola Scriptura. Most Christians ignore the most of the Old Testament.
OR
>a humorous image, video, piece of text, etc. that is copied (often with slight variations) and spread rapidly by Internet users.
The images OP and I posted. I thought they were both rather meme-y. (is that the correct adjective form of meme, i.e. to be meme like)
If you are OP, do you have a question or an OC discussion point?
I still want to know what they did with the bodies of the 100,000, Ethiopians from Chronicles 14.12-13
Continue to have a blessed day y'all
>>1387769 (me)
*Sorry... That's the bodies of 1,000,000 Ethiopians
>>1387769
Faggot.
>>1387777
That's not an argument and as I pointed out, I am not a cigarette. Further, I am not a homosexual
You have a blessed day
>>1387769
The point is it proves Lutheranism is the original Christianity and therefore Catholicism and EO are modern heresies
Which is why said heretics have failed to respond
>>1387804
Nigger.
>>1387806
The Original Apostles and those who walked with him and heard him speak are the original Christians. Not even Paul can be considered an "Original Christian"
>>1387826
And I am not a negro
If you are OP, I didn't know that Lutherans were racist and homophobic
>>1387875
The apostles (and Christ too) were Lutheran.
>>1387875
Kike.
>it's another Christianity discussion episode
>>1387806
>The point is it proves Lutheranism is the original Christianity
Despite its obvious christological departures from orthodoxy?
>Welp, we deny the transubstantiation of the Catholics, and the symbolism of Zwingli, but we're rationalists so we refuse to declare the Real Presence a mystery as the Calvinists do. So what do we do with our rationalistic brains? AHA! We just invent a communicatio idomatum that applies, not to the Person but to the Natures, and make Christ's human body ubiquitous in nature! That's TOTALLY orthodox!
>Sola Scriptura! Except for the Scriptures we don't like, like Exodus 9:12 and the entire book of James
