/his/ tell me about this place in 1000AD.
HARMODE: you can't talk about norsemen
>>1383130
Stupid thread.
>Big Plains in eastern europe
>northern europe tundra and forest, with a large mountain chain running through the scandi peninsula.
>Pagans?
Everything north of Stockholm was Finnish.
>>1383151
sapmi*
Savages in mud huts.
>>1383130
>cold
>christianity
>some pagans
>war
>?
What do you want to know? Denmark and Norway had recently been Christianized, Sweden was constituted of several smaller kingdoms, but none of them was formally Christian, though it may have been practiced locally. Finland and the Baltic region is still basically just scattered pagan rribes
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>>1383219
All of these are dirty normies OP, who got their history knowledge about that area from Vikings TV series. Your hardmode was too hard for them. These fags should all kill themselves.
Let me educate you, you fuckers.
Firstly lets start with area considered Estonia today.
Estonia has plethora of tribes during that time and none of them were as backwards as faggots in this thread like to think. Estonian tribes were as much part of the community surrounding Baltic Sea as norsmen were. So were people in current day Latvian area and current day Lithuanian area. So also of course people from current day Finland area and current day northern Sweden. You cannot dismiss them simply because you know jack shit about them.
So first lesson, faggots.
Estonians had many tribes and they conducted trade with other Baltic Sea countries.
>Saaremaa
Also known as Osel. Was the county that was know for their provess as vikings. Although other coastal counties conducted raids aswell, no one could beat people of Osel in trading. Osel was also the location where the god Tor supposedly fell down. However one must remark that their Tor was quite alike to Thor and Odin combined and was also a woman. I will get to talk about Tor later post. Osel also has the religious center of that day estonia, the Kaali Crater. A meteorite crater which was believed to be where Tor fell into. Thus, immence fortifications were built around it. It was a place for great worship, people were sacrificed into that crater, animals and even entire fucking trees were sacrificed. It was the holy mecca of old estonian faith.
>Läänemaa also know as Rotalia or Maritima
Läänemaa was the least populated area during that time, but it still was an independent county considting of several parishes. At 1200 swedish army conquered one of the local fortresses, but was few months later slaughtered to the last man, by the locals.
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>>1383130
So we must just talk about Norsewomen and kids?
>>1383339
>Sakala
Sakala was one of the most powerful military powers of its area. It conducted regular raids south into Latvian areas. One notable feat from them was when they battled with the subjugating forces from Kievan Rus and cucked them so hard that Kievan Rus decided to not disturb them in any ways for half a century.
>Revala also known as Revälä
Revala was a relatively new county. Its capital was called Härjänpää(meaning Oxen Head). It was formerly controlled by neibghouring Virumaa, but it got powerful on its own and decided to become independent.
>Harju also known as Harrien
Was a relatively peaceful county at its time. It did join their neibghours in their raids, but in general pursued a peaceful lifestyle.
>Alempois
Alempois was one of the small counties, which was virtually a parish with power comparable to counties. Not much is know about it, but it has fortresses, which means that war was not a foreign concept for them.
>Nurmekund
It was a small county aswell. Also like Alempois, little is know about them, since no one really studies them.
>Virumaa also known as Vironia
The capital of Virumaa was called Tarvanpää. Meaning - "Auroch's Head". It was probably the strongest and wealthiest county in Estonia. It took part in trade and raided and was encaged in numerous conflicts with swedish. There are numerous norse tomb stones in Virumaa saying how some swedish guy game to raid and was slaughtered. Vironia also made living out of selling thralls to other estonian counties and to sailor mechants.
>Järva
Was a landlocked county and boasted unusally high population for its size.
>Mõhu
A parish-county, about which little is known of.
>Vaiga also known as Vaia
A county unusal for having quite a lot of fortresses compared to its low population. But it was due to its constant back and forth raids into Kievan Rus and its progenitor states.
>Jogentagana
A parish-county at that time was in process of separating from its southern county Ugandi.
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>Ugandi
A county of peoples who were one of the most warlike of the lot. It had many quarrels with southern lativian tribes and russian states.
>County governments
Their governments were rather different from contemporary feudal systems that the rest of the surrounding people had. They didn't have tribal chiefs and proto foedality. Rather their counties were an open union of smaller parishes where governnance was given to one elected Grand Elder and issues were discussed around a metaphorical round table, considering the input of union members. Parishes could easily leave and join those unions as they saw fit.
Each parish had at least one fortress, into which local people could hide if raiding party arrived.
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>Religion
People believed in a pantheon of gods. The head god was Jumal and second in importance was Tor(Or Tar, Taara, Tooru). That god bears many similarities to Scandinavian Thor and Odin. However Tooru is a female warrior god who also doubles as mother nature. The presence of Tooru is rather puzzling. One would say that the local people just believed in a different version of Thor, however reality is much more strange. The god figure Tooru is present in many Finno-Ugric tribes all the way to Urals in Siberia. Their gods pantheron in large differs greatly the further east we go, but they always have some form of Tooru and Jumal. Which leads to suggest that the Norse God Thor is rather a borrow from Finnic pantheon.
>Symbolism
Pagan estonian posessed many symbols of their own. Quite a lot of them were some form of cross. Pic related is called 8-tipped cross and is also called "blue flower".
>>1383151
lol no
what are the Helsingjar?
what are the Jamtar?
everything north of Ångermanland was Finnic/Sámi at that time.
>>1383886
No one cares famalam
>>1383900
seems like you do
>>1383886
There have never been any form of mudhuts in any place in north Europe, ever. By the time glaciers recedeed and people migrated to live there, they already knew how to build proper wooden structures.
As long as 7000 years back, they new how to build boats and were catching whales in Baltic Sea.
Pictured a petroglyph, carved by those same dudes.
>>1383339
OP wanted to learn about the entire Baltics 1000AD not the history of Estonia you dingus
>>1383130
Literally tons of petty kingdoms, towns, and villages with common cultures in their respective areas with the exception of Poland which would become a kingdom in a little while and Novgorod in the East.
And what do you mean we can't talk about Norsemen. Southern Sweden/Denmark were inhabited by Norsemen.
>>1383130
Latvians kicked the vikings ass. And the Finnish were as hard arsed and sad as they are now.
dark blue = samis
light blue = finnic
green = north germanic
>>1385491
The Kursi are great raiders and warriors.
>>1385985
Actually there were Samis living in southern/western Finland too, although they were getting absorbed by Finns and Finland-Swedes.
>>1385142
>And what do you mean we can't talk about Norsemen. Southern Sweden/Denmark were inhabited by Norsemen.
A thread that postulates a subject to discuss and also writes "HARDMODE: you can't talk about [X]", usually is done when the actual subject is usually drowned out by that subsubject [X].
Basically, If OP wouldn't have told not to talk about norsemen, the entire thread would have been full of replyes that ONLY talk about norsemen and vikings and not a single person would talk about anything other than norsemen.
>>1386389
i forgot to add that tnx
>>1383130
Trade between Germans, Slavs and N... bloomed in trade emporia like Truso; through Novgorod, Kiev and Russian rivers they were connected even with Byzantine empire and I believe that there were also discovered large amounts of Arabic coins.
Poland was around 1000 during reign of Boleslaw the Brave on huge power trip. Poland was only recently Christianized, but thanks to emperor Otto III was established archbishopric in Gniezno and Boleslaw eventually became the first Polish king. Poland even bullied once mighty Bohemia (Boleslaw himself was named after his uncle, the Bohemian ruler), atm in dynastic crisis, especially after loosing all eastern gains to Poland and Kiev.
