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The samurai era in Japan, specially during the Kamakura Bakufu
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The samurai era in Japan, specially during the Kamakura Bakufu period, was the height of human civilization as we know it.

In no other place or point in history, has mankind developed such a refined sense of honor, loyalty and self sacrifice. There's also a whole artistic and humanistic movement that towers over the so called renaissance period.

A samurai warrior was not only a master of the sword (katana), but he was skilled in the bow, hand to hand combat, and well versed in poetry and religion. The samurai armor provided protection but also movility. An experienced samurai could easily take down a mounted western knight in full armour with a single blow.

If it weren't for the interference of the gaijin (european foreigners) and the introduction of honorless weapons (gun powder) that ultimated resulted in the Sengoku jidai (age of civil war), the samurai way of life, also known as Bushido, would have perdured even to this day.

Discuss.
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>>1382520
>bait thread
Regardless, gaijin and gun powder showed up after the Sengoku Jidai had already begun. Go be a weeb faggot on /jp/ or literally anywhere else.
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>>1382520
Yeah, Samurai may be the supreme god warrior. But stop trolling and contribute something interesting to the board.
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>>1382520

>The samurai era in Japan, specially during the Kamakura Bakufu period, was the height of human civilization as we know it.
No. Not even close.
>In no other place or point in history, has mankind developed such a refined sense of honor, loyalty and self sacrifice. There's also a whole artistic and humanistic movement that towers over the so called renaissance period.
I'm sorry what?
>A samurai warrior was not only a master of the sword (katana), but he was skilled in the bow, hand to hand combat, and well versed in poetry and religion. The samurai armor provided protection but also movility. An experienced samurai could easily take down a mounted western knight in full armour with a single blow.
Except your average Knight was trained with alot more then swords. And I'm sure a samurai would be cut down by a lance before they could even get close to a knight
>If it weren't for the interference of the gaijin (european foreigners) and the introduction of honorless weapons (gun powder) that ultimated resulted in the Sengoku jidai (age of civil war), the samurai way of life, also known as Bushido, would have perdured even to this day.
Bushido was kept until 1945.
All it lead to was less Japanese troops to being killed, as it's hard to find Japanese troops after they banzai into a machine guns kill zone.
And honor didn't save them from nuclear weapons
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>>1382520

Weren't the samurai actually originally an established military elite class that became stagnant during peaceful eras and spent most of their time being assholes to everyone including each other?
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>>1382520
No a Viking with a Dane Axe would beat them.
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>>1382520
nice meme

It is partly true though. For some reason Japan never developed early firearms despite their gunpowder crazy neighbors. For example one of the main reasons they failed to invade Korea was because of their lack of an equivalent to Korea's Chongtong naval cannons early in the war.

As a result Japan leaned more towards muscle powered weapons than its peers. While most had abandoned their own pre-gunpowder warrior culture, Japan maintained it for longer which helped develop the perception of them being exceptional. Though every Kingdom on earth probably had its own equivalent at some point.
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>>1382897
Yes, but OP is just Ken-sama trying, in vain, to proselytize
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>>1385648
Japan was full of guns during the warring states period, but when warfare stopped there was no need to import the latest weapons from oversees.

Mind you they still had guns, and used them when farmers rebelled
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>>1385648
Dude they had tons of guns during the invasion of Korea and were probably better equipped than the Ming or Korean armies. They won almost every land battle. Their failures in Korea were due to shit navy, Korean guerillas, the overwhelming manpower of the Ming and Hideyoshi's death.
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>>1385552
2/8 got me to reply
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>>1382520
Weaboo, the post.
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>>1385739
The Viking would chop a samurai in half easily with his Dane Axe.
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Tang dynasty was here, nips and weebs a shit.
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lol Samurai weren't an unstoppable force. They were merely the jap equivalent of the knight nothing more.
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>>1382520
weaaboo shit

Tang dynasty was best time/place to live before modern times.

prove me wrong, weaboo

>you can't
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>>1385731
>They won almost every land battle
Eh, i think you mean defensive sieges. The newly developed atillery utilized by Xi combined with Ming Caverly proved difficult for the Japanese to deal with.
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>>1382520
What's there to discuss? How retarded you look in your fedora?
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>>1385731
>were probably better equipped than the Ming armies
The heterogeneous composition of the Ming forces involved is understated.

The armaments of dilapidated hereditary garrisons mercenaries,marines,tribal irregulars and retinue cavalry would vary immensely.

>They won almost every land battle.
They never regained the momentum after the capture of Pyongyang,Kaesong and Hanseong.

Japanese forces were unable to exploit victories even when routing a besieging force.

Japanese infantry forces did poorly against Ming cavalry even with overwhelmingly numerical superiority.

>the overwhelming manpower of the Ming
Ming records made it clear that the only time they outnumbered Japanese forces was in the last stretch of the war.
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