>Abolish Capital punishment as one of the first orders of business
>Start executing people when it looks like your government is about to fall apart
Honestly, is there anything more hypocritical than radical leftists who somehow manage to take over a government?
fucc the clergy
>>1380460
Yep, unarmed and non-violent priests are really dangerous to your new social order
Tyrants and monarchs are evil. The people must overthrow and replace them with a "benign" dictator to ensure liberty for all. Once the tyrants are gone, Rei will be my gf and everyone will be friends again ^_^
What could go wrong? (oh, and just a warning, if you disagree with me I will start hyperventilating, cry, and then pretend to be a character from one of my animes, maybe Asuka. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY DON'T SAY IT, OKAY?)
>>1380462
they're not non-violent, they just use the violence of others for their own ends like the ignoble cowards they are
remember who gave the vatican to the church?
>>1380480
Benny the Edgelord?
>>1380460
>facebook meme
>>1380561
but u know it's literally true, the church supported and profited from fascism how is that an edgy thing to say?
they also murdered anybody who gave a non-catholic education and hired thugs to kill union organisers
fucc the clergy
>>1380568
saying fucc is not a facebook meme
>>1380434
The Commune of Paris was just a mass riot. They deserved every bullet from the troops of the army of Versailles.
>>1380570
And somehow the average priest is responsible for all this
>murdered anybody who gave a non-catholic education
Out of your ass
>hired thugs to kill union organisers
Out of your ass
>>1380580
Francisco Ferrer was murdered because he gave a non-catholic education, clergy hired gunmen during the pistolero years in Spain too.
I already gave the example of Italy, the Vatican literally exists because of fascism.
by your own logic there is literally nothing wrong with being a nazi as long as you don't act on it
not even mentioning how the church covered up kiddy fiddling
>>1380590
>by your own logic there is literally nothing wrong with being a nazi as long as you don't act on it
There isn't
>not even mentioning how the church covered up kiddy fiddling
Which is the responsibility of the church, not the priests. It's like blaming DOW chemical for dumping in a lake and shooting one of their office workers in the face. It's nonsense.
>>1380593
>there is nothing wrong with holding dogmatic ideology
This is what Nietzsche died for.
>>1380593
>There isn't
and i'm meant to be the edgelord!
>Which is the responsibility of the church, not the priests.
>the church is responsible but not its members somehow
>It's like blaming DOW chemical for dumping in a lake and shooting one of their office workers in the face. It's nonsense.
what does this even mean?
>>1380590
>Francisco Ferrer
Killed by the government, not the Church. And not for giving non-Catholic education, it's because he was raising fucking anarchists.
>by your own logic there is literally nothing wrong with being a nazi as long as you don't act on it
The principles of the Nazi party were pretty firmly wrong. The Catholic Church was pretty beneficial at creating helpful institutions and had a moral code, even if the hierarchy didn't always follow it. How are these the same?
>not even mentioning how the church covered up kiddy fiddling
Not the average priest's fault. The average good priest would be against it. The last pope was against it.
>>1380618
>Killed by the government, not the Church.
that's what I said, the church get other people to do the murdering for them
>And not for giving non-Catholic education, it's because he was raising fucking anarchists.
nice moral consistency fampai
>The principles of the Nazi party were pretty firmly wrong.
same with the church
>The Catholic Church was pretty beneficial at creating helpful institutions and had a moral code, even if the hierarchy didn't always follow it. How are these the same?
the institutions it created were all based around promoting catholicism and suppressing dissent, they provide charity but never solve a problem they can profit from, which is why they hired gunmen
>Not the average priest's fault. The average good priest would be against it. The last pope was against it.
not the average fascist's fault then, or the average anarchist's, for whatever you think Ferrer deserved to die for
priests, no matter what they do in practice, preach an ideology of submission which, as an organisation the church is not afraid to enforce with violence
the violence of some clergy happens because of the programme of all clergy
>>1380602
>My argument's fallen apart, better use logical fallacies
>>1380654
fallacy fallacy
>>1380654
>just scream "fallacy" until the other person stops posting. That means you've won the argument.
>>1380661
You're right, calling people names and being obtuse is a much better way to argue, my mistake
>>1380434
>>Abolish Capital punishment as one of the first orders of business
>>Start executing people when it looks like your government is about to fall apart
It is hypocritical if they abolish capital punishment as a means of saying killing is morally wrong. If they abolish capital punishment during the transition of governments, they're expressing nothing more than wanting an end put to the people they sympathize with being killed. Then they kill the ones who did the killing (they think). No problem there. And capital punishment can be undesirable for reasons other than le killing is wrong meme.
>>1380666
>>1380676
There's literally nothing wrong with the guy on the right, you fucking idiot. You can't even use memes to argue your point correctly.
>>1380650
>nice moral consistency
Teaching kids in ways other than the traditional Catholic =/= teaching them to want to overthrow the government and entire society
>the Church are as bad as Nazis because they promoted Catholicism
That's fucking stupid. Of course the Church would promote Catholicism, are you stupid? It exists to promote morals, yes, and to give charity, yes, and those are hard facts that can't be slipped around to be morally wrong somehow.
>priests teach an ideology of submission
They don't, and they never have. Priests teach Catholicism because they are Catholic. Priests believe you should be Catholic because they believe Catholicism is good. They think Catholicism is good because they are priests. If they didn't think that, they wouldn't be priests. Being Catholic doesn't necessarily mean you support everything the Church does. Catholicism and the Church are two different entities, it's not like every priest is directly funding rape coverups. Anarchists should just face that all they've ever done in practice is take out their anger on people who have nothing to do with their problems.
>>1380675
>stop killing the people we like so we can kill the people we don't like
Nothing hypocritical there at all
>>1380729
>Teaching kids in ways other than the traditional Catholic =/= teaching them to want to overthrow the government and entire society
what if your society is built on catholicism because they run all the schools?
>That's fucking stupid. Of course the Church would promote Catholicism, are you stupid? It exists to promote morals, yes, and to give charity, yes, and those are hard facts that can't be slipped around to be morally wrong somehow
charity protects what causes the real problems that make it necessary
classic example of this is the salvation army band playing to drown out IWW speeches
>They don't, and they never have. Priests teach Catholicism because they are Catholic. Priests believe you should be Catholic because they believe Catholicism is good. They think Catholicism is good because they are priests. If they didn't think that, they wouldn't be priests.
fun things are fun
>Being Catholic doesn't necessarily mean you support everything the Church does
but being a member of the clergy implicates you in what the clergy does as a group
>Catholicism and the Church are two different entities
not really
>it's not like every priest is directly funding rape coverups.
never said that senpai
>Anarchists should just face that all they've ever done in practice is take out their anger on people who have nothing to do with their problems.
Anarchists are anarchists because they are against authority. They think authority is bad because they are anarchists. If they didn't think that, they wouldn't be anarchists.
the church is an authoritarian institution
>>1380729
>does recognize the "ideology of submission" line
It's from Nietzsche dude. You're not well versed on this subject, are you?
>>1380735
Nope, there isn't. Having a goal that involves not killing some and killing others isn't hypocritical if recognized as what it is; actions towards political goals.
>>1380434
Paris held out while the rest of France surrendered. They quite rightly felt betrayed. They died to save the honor of all Frenchmen.
The Prussians refused to bombard Paris for fear of the civilian and architectural casualties. The French had no such compunction. They destroyed their greatest city and massacred its populace because they wished to show the world that they had no shame. Entire neighborhoods were burned to the ground, the inhabitants marched out and executed, men women and children. France destroyed itself, there is no longer such a country as France, only a land of sycophants and puerile scum.
This is why to be French is synonymous with being cowardly, because all the brave frenchmen and women died that day.
>>1380808
pic related
>>1380808
>ruining your nation to preserve the honor of a single generation
bravo froggies
>>1380882
At least the Germans chose to fight and die as one people instead of selling each other out to the highest bidder. The new nation saw the treachery of the frogs with great contempt.
Why should the best of a nation die simply so that those in power can avoid recriminations for their failure? The ruling class starts a war and loses horribly, is the anger of the people unjustifiable? Is it not righteous?
>>1380434
>Due process and freedom are basic principles of your nation
>Imprison an entire ethnic group without trial when you go to war with their homeland
Honestly, is there anything more hypocritical than americans who somehow manage to take over a government?
>>1380933
Does it upset you?
>>1380434
Reminds me of the European "liberals" who came out against universal suffrage when Brexit happened. Hypocrisy in the practicers of ideologies is nothing new.
>>1380570
>>1380434
Power = Corruption
>>1380434
Long live the Communards!
Death to the Church!
![Hw-fourier[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sIf1u0C.jpg "Hw-fourier[1].jpg")
>>1380464
1. Rousseau never argued for a benign dictatorship. That was Voltaire.
2. We're talking about the Paris Commune here (1871), not the French Revolution (1789). You're only one century off, that's a mistake anyone could've made..
>>1380464
Bitch Rei is mine
I know that they tried to burn down the notre dame and destroyed a lot of columns and statues, but what more did they go full ISIS about?
![1337815587767[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HhaoYNq.jpg "1337815587767[2].jpg")
>>1382199
There was this one artist who convinced the Paris Commune to tear down some column celebrating Austerlitz because it was "a permanent insult to the vanquished".
The Third Republic promptly restored the column and forced the artist to pay for the reparations out of his own pocket.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_Vend%C3%B4me#The_Vend.C3.B4me_Column
The entire story of this column is an interesting one, and tells the tale of a Napoleonic legacy the French desperately tried (and try) to destroy, but somehow Napoleon always finds a way to remain a permanent presence.
