What do you think of vaporwave? I think its related because its posmodern, retro and sociologically and philosphically analizable
>Vaporwave has been described as "a degrading of commercial music" in an attempt to reveal the "false promises" of capitalism. Music writer Adam Harper of Dummy Mag describes Vaporwave as "ironic and satirical or truly accelerationist"; noting that the name "Vaporwave" itself is both a nod to vaporware, and the idea of libidinal energy being subjected to relentless sublimation under capitalism.
>Critic Simon Reynolds has characterized Daniel Lopatin's Chuck Person project as "relat[ing] to cultural memory and the buried utopianism within capitalist commodities, especially those related to consumer technology in the computing and audio/video entertainment area".
>情報デスクVIRTUAL (Jouhou Desuku VIRTUAL), the alias of Vektroid, describes her album 札幌コンテンポラリー (Sapporo Contemporary) as "a brief glimpse into the new possibilities of international communication" and "a parody of American hypercontextualization of e-Asia circa 1995."
>Music educator Grafton Tanner argued in his 2016 book Babbling Corpse: Vaporwave and the Commodification of Ghosts that vaporwave is a rebellion against rampant, uncontrolled capitalism, particularly surrounding its treatment of nostalgia.
>>1377231
>analizable
Also, kill yourself.
>>1377235
Sorry if my english aint perfect
>>1377231
>What do you think of vaporwave?
there's a board for music, m8
vaporwave is shit btw
I think vaporwave is more sincere than people would like it to be. If anything, it's anti-accelerationist, deriving nostalgia out of an aesthetic that wasn't given the time to throughly flourish, thanks to the very capitalistic and progressivist desires that brought them into being; this is coupled with blatant intellectual unoriginality, both as a reflection and support of consumerist ideology--people simply don't want their stuff to be too dfferent from what they know, and that isn't something that is inherently negative, nor is "originality" something that is inherently positive. That vaporwave causes tremendous shock due to its "intellectual bankrupcy" says a lot on its own in a culture which every day seems to hate "tradition" more and more.
Vaporwave is post-ironic.
>>1377549
Does vaporwave has anything to do with tradition tho?
Also
>people simply don't want their stuff to be too dfferent from what they know
Of course greek/roman sculptures and outdated technology and their imagery is nothing new, but don't you think that combining all those elements makes something new?
A lot of comtemporary art ark works the same way, combining already known things in a certain way to make a new thing, with misappropriation (sorry if innacurate translation)
vaporwave was just a prank bro
>>1377968
It's more to do with a lack of inheritance and common ground than tradition in the usual sense--modern society is so eager to be free of its past that any kind of shared values or experiences become impossible for its subjects. So you see the anime shit all around, which is something that is deliberately obscurantist (to the point not even the people creating the stuff can't read the scripts they use) both ironically (as a hacky attention grab) and sincerely (as nostalgia).
>combining already known things in a certain way to make a new thing
Yes but vaporwave is shameless about it. There's no artistry to it, it's stuff anyone with some paint skills can do; it's not trying to synthetize things, not trying to make itself whole because people have become wary of such ideology--rather it's trying to stop the dialectic samsara by the individuation of the things it references, it's like the stereotype of the continental philosopher which talks almost purely in Ancient Greek, but vaporwave doesn't do it because it needs Kantian precision to make a point, but because it admitedly does NOT have one, it just likes these aesthetics and thinks them worth preserving; but in the modern cultural landscape just saying you like the sounds old computers did NEEDS to be a statement, because people are that hungry for meaning, because attachment is somehow evil despite being a necessary part of the society trying to take it out of its system.
Like with the irony/sincerity thing the new/old dichotomy is also something vaporwave aims to do away with, by being new for the sake of new and old for the sake of old.
>>1377968
It's old japanese computer pictures and old Japanese music slowed down with some statues
What do you think?
All those shitty vaporwave 'songs' that just throw reverb onto 80's Japanese city-pop are cancer.
>>1377231
Reminds me of Spengler. His final stage of a civilisations decline is for all its symbols and aesthetics to be endlessly rehashed until they lose all meaning, he saw this as the terminal state of a culture but it's also a fairly good description of post modernism.
