Who were the historical equivalent(s) to ISIL?
I want to say The Spanish Inquisition. But that's a pretty unoriginal and flaccid choice.
>>1372774
Maccabees? Sicarii and Zealots in the 70AD Jewish Roman war.
Shit there's really too many to name, which says a lot about the human condition. But just off the top of my head:
The Waffen-SS, and more notoriously the Einsatzgruppen and Ordnungspolizei.
The Belgians in the Congo. ("I don't care how many baby hands it takes, deliver the ivory!")
The Red Guards in China.
Saint-Just's Terror in France.
>>1372851
Nah, none of those were trying to state build in their own name. They all did awful things to people, but the intention was different.
I'm having a little trouble thinking of any group that was motivated by religion alone or at least primarily that waged war on everyone around them in order to build a state.
Possibly some of the more radical protestants during the reformation. Most of the time it's the states all ganging up on relgious minorities who just want to be left alone. Not the minority attacking everyone at once.
>>1372851
The Assyrians
>>1372774
Every white empire ever
The IRA
>>1372774
Communists.
The Emirate of Diriyah circa 1744.
Al-Dawla al-Mahdiyah circa 1885.
Literally the Ikhwan, and the Deobandi movement
Also Juhayman al-Uteybi's group, but that may be a little too recent.
Also, pic related is very handy in explaining what ISIS is all about
Girolamo Savinarola's Florence
>>1372774
>ISIL
>comparable to the Spanish Inquisition
I'm fucking sick of you protestants feasting on the propaganda of your 16th century forefathers.
>3000 to 5000 executions in +300 years by the Spanish Inquisition
Guess the USA is ISIL too since it executes 1700 people in only 30 years.
>>1373521
>Guess the USA is ISIL too since it executes 1700 people in only 30 years.
And you expected me to disagree with this how?
>>1372774
The first caliphate, Arab not Persian
Hussites or any militant protestants really.
Those Christian guys who rebelled in China and initiated the bloodiest civil war on record.
>>1373562
The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom was a crazy, amazing thing
>>1372774
Hebrews. Source bible
>ISIL
>>1373631
It's just as valid a name as ISIS or IS. I don't get the fixation on the name criticisms
Just call them Daesh. It's their Arabic acronym and they dislike being called it, so everyone wins.
>>1372774
>Who were the historical equivalent(s) to ISIS
The post Exodus Hebrews
(read Numbers 31 - Slaughter of the Midianites - pic related)
The Mahdi
Japanese Empire? They weren't religious but they done similarly brutal things.
>>1372774
the abbasid empire, and all its successors, isis is a literal copy of mohammed as an organization
>>1372774
The Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists
>area of the world suffering incursion and intervention from outside powers
>a group of fanatic young men with an interest in the ultra violent start wrecking shit
>every other world power immediately quit fucking around and come together to crush them
>>1372774
Mohammad.
The French.
Bunch of complete turds propped up and used like tools by the Eternal Anglo to fuck up the neighborhood and turn their country into a warzone.
>>1373362
shia kaffir detected
>>1373324
Bait
>>1373278
khmer rouge
the crusades desu
>>1377247
Sunni nigger detected.
Go blow yourself up ackmed.
American Revolution
Jews
>>1377315
hezbollah invented suicide bombing rafidah kalb
>>1373327
Yup.
IRA scum.
>>1377413
I hope Assad exterminates every sunni in Syria, just to see your rapefugee ass cry about it on /sg/.
>>1379665
>implying there would be a turkroach/Saudi/burger invasion
>implying there shouldn't have been one like three years ago
>>1373545
Edgy as fuck mate nice
The Paris kommune
>>1372774
Every jihadi group ever
For further back, perhaps the Teutonic Knights in the Baltic states?
>>1372774
Muhammad and his armies
>>1372774
But the spanish inquisition had nothing to do with ISIS? The spanish inquisition is better compared to any secret police destined to enforce the will and values of the state. The fucking gestapo is closer to the inquisition than ISIS.
>>1373558
This.
>>1374477
Pretty sure they were very religious.
>>1379844
>perhaps the Teutonic Knights in the Baltic states?
Kinda and other religious groups in the area too, but not exactly. Would work better if they weren't all strangers (mostly germans) from a completely different culture.
>>1377413
The Tamil did actually.
>>1373362
for what I know, Ikhwan started as a peaceful organization and then radicalized with Israeli occupation. Now it is very different depending on which country you focus on
>>1379970
The tamil tigers? can you give me mroe info about it mate?
ALso, if you remember The Godfather part II there is a suicide bomber in 1958 revolutionary Cuba kek
>>1372774
I think that Savonarola's rule in Florence was basically as extremist and integralist and dogmatist as ISIS.
Also, Savonarola attarcted an army of really young people, even children, so the appeal is similar in some way desu sempai
>>1379970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI_3UTL2Zus
Tamils were tough motherfuckers.
>>1373340
Those churches looked shit though. Shame the anarchists did not dynamite the main Barcelona cathedral. That thing is an abomination
Every other caliphate ;)
>>1372774
The hashassins
The napoleonic french in Spain
>>1372774
>Who were the historical equivalent(s) to ISIL?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khawarij
ISIS before there was an ISIS.
>>1372774
The Inquisition did nothing wrong you pop history faggot
>>1380279
>Shame the anarchists did not dynamite the main Barcelona cathedral. That thing is an abomination
Orwell?
>>1372774
Crusaders
>>1373278
>or at least primarily that waged war on everyone around them in order to build a state.
Literally the ancestors of any modern nation. It's simply STILL happening, it's not new.
>>1380012
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104391493
Ok so they didn't "invent" it but they basically popularized it.
>>1372851
None of this makes sense.
>these groups committed atrocities just like isis does so they're paralleled
nah
>>1373340
Blowing up churches and killing clergy are some of the the few things the Bolsheviks got right.
>inb4 le fedora
Nothing wrong with religion, just Russian Orthodoxy (and Catholicism. And Islam. And a few others).
>>1372774
Rome
French revolutionary mobs
>>1380008
Not the one in Saudi Arabia. They've always been into killing and pillaging
>>1372774
easier and most obvious answer:
muhammad himself, these guys are the real muslims, they do exactly what muhammad teached.
>bring unpopular interpetation of a religion
>gather a bunch of guys that support this
>kill everyone around me that doesn't wants to agree
>rape, behead, enslave conquer them
>make everyone else hate you
>make them form a coalition against you
hope it ends better than muhammad story
wouldn't America technically count
taking over others land for there holy scripture
The constitution
