In your opinion, was the sexual revolution good?
>>1355866
Yes.
Hasn't done anything for me yet...
>>1355866
its tame compared to this part 2 happening now.
I don't think it really did anything useful for my society
Overall, yes. Sex is one of the great pleasures in life and it can and should be seen as a positive thing. Which is not to say one can't have an unhealthy approach to sex. In both ways it is a lot like food.
The sexual revolution didn't achieve that much. They used used bonobo apes, falsifying evolutionary facts and tribal humans as justification but in the end failed to achieve how bonobos and tribals feel about sex.
Anyone who thinks sex is somehow liberated and free at the moment has been drinking too much kool aid.
>>1355903
The fact that chimpanzees are systematically exterminating bonobos now is pretty hilarious too.
>>1355866
No
It was decadence disguised as progress.
>>1355866
No letting women decide who they breed with lowered the fertility rate of humans.
>>1356158
>No letting women decide who they breed with lowered the fertility rate of humans.
>>1355869
/this
>>1356169
It's true though.
>>1355866
>>1356169
Perfect.
>>1355866
Yes. It permits women to have more men pleasing them in bed, therefore more men are pleased and women are pleased.
the problem is that most men are not good in bed, so now women try to make them good in bed. It was not enough to demand orgasms, it is necessary now to teach men how good it is to eat pussy. Plus the whole teaching of being a good man in daily life, as in changing diapers.
Overall, the education of men is going well. more and more men accept open relations and are even now proud of this.
In a few generations, women will at last be the best hedonistic creatures on earth.
>>1355866
I haven't ever lived in a time when it wasn't a thing, so I don't have a sample to compare it to.
>>1356169
Anon anyone can get laid but women have no desire to be monogamous thats why cuckholding exist because its the natural way women reproduce with humans, marriage is a recent male made construct created to provide more order for stable family units, but now women are free and back to their animalistic polygamous breeding practice.
To make things worse men today are programmed to act like pussies and thus only a small percentage of men women are truely attracted to, due to white knights making it legal for a woman to destroy the life of man who she isnt attracted to for simply trying to flirt with her "sexual harassment" they call it it lowers the fertility rate as the women refuse to breed with anything other than the top of men.
There are only so many top men meaning human reproduction is stalled, the current past population increase is due to indians, chinks, and niggers, however in Europe they are slowly going extinct in terms of reproduction. The women dont care all they want is top men dick long term consequences is a concept men invented completely alien to human women.
>>1356231
Do you have a single fact to back that up? Or are you just salty no woman will have sex with you, leading to inventing a narrative that takes all blame off of you?
>>1356252
Just look at birth rates among the native populations of Europe.
>>1356231
Is this satire? It's honestly hard to tell anymore.
>>1356209
>Still not getting laid even after their "revolution"
10/10 pic desu senpai
>>1356231
Fertility- in the modern world, is about 10x less important for human beings than it is for animals. We have no threat of going extinct because of it.
The sexual revolution made women far more open to sex, but to less men. I suspect the only men who would be complaining about that are men that simply can't get laid.
It was a meme, just like the Occupy movement.
>>1355872
Elaborate.
>>1356260
They have transcended human desires.
>>1356257
Lower European birthrates does not equate to all women are deviant whores who hate monogamy. You make a lot of assertions such as
>women have no desire to be monogamous thats why cuckholding exist because its the natural way women reproduce with humans, marriage is a recent male made construct created to provide more order for stable family units, but now women are free and back to their animalistic polygamous breeding practice.
That's you talking out your ass. Are you an evolutionary biologist? An archaeologist? A neuroscientist? Then you have no legs to stand on making this shit up. Where are the sources for ANY of this?
>>1356274
>Where are the sources for ANY of this?
Probably the sores on the palm of his right hand.
>>1356274
I'm not the guy you're talking to, but the phenomena he describes exist, or do they not?
>>1356288
As populations get richer they tend to have lower birth rates. You can see this across global populations, pointedly Japan, China, and (close to home) Quebec, which went from a norm of 8-child families to 2 child families in the span of a generation.
>>1355866
No it was a complete and total collapse of social structure and morality and did nothing but cause the US to start sliding into total degeneracy. It brought about nothing but unwanted babies, abortion to kill unwanted babies, sexually transmitted diseases, and the fall of the family unit.
It was wholly evil.
>>1356303
And what makes you think that this is a matter of wealth and not just a matter of women's rights?
>>1356326
Women didn't suddenly gain rights in Commiestan China.
Then again, capitalism is a great way for creating new prosperity that also coincides with women's liberation. Not sure in which direction it stems, but there is definitely a strong corelation.
Not one bit. It's destroyed modern society and brought about an increasingly nihilistic and apathetic zeitgeist.
>>1356360
>Women didn't suddenly gain rights in Commiestan China.
Which is why China had to artificially limit their population growth through their one-child policy, making it actually an outlier in your list.
>>1356216
And then women were replaced with synthetic robots.
Lesson: Don't be an entitled cunt.
>>1356315
This
Social acceptance of widespread promiscuity has had nothing but a net negative effect on our society
>>1356367
That is true. China's prosperity only came after the one child rule, but that's coincidental.
The point of Japan still stands.
>>1356261
>We have no threat of going extinct because of it.
Kek european humans are already on the near threatened list, in 12 years most europeans will be outbred by middle eastern people in their own continent and hispanics will outbreed the european descent humans in North America.
Again its not a threat unless you see it you women are stupid creatures with no grasping of the future.
>>1356258
Femanon detected.
>>1356252
>HURR HES A BUTTHURT VIRGIN
My entire post is about how damaging to the family unit sexual revolution is and how it lowers human reproduction as well.
>>1356433
Their prosperity increased to the extent that they embraced and allowed for free market capitalism, with the dual advantages of stealing everything everyone else created and utilizing slave labor.
>>1356303
Yes but the fertility rates in Europe are under the replacement rate which is unnatural at any level of income.
>>1356274
You were lied to anon, women dont care about love all they care about is dick, they are polygamous fuck machines that view men like tools to use and abuse not a single one except your genuine female friends give a shit about you in an unconditional manner not even your wife.
>>1356315
these things are due to lack of education not an openness about sex in itself
>>1355866
Fuck no.
The overwhelming majority of convicted felons all share one common characteristic, regardless of ethnicity....they came from single parent homes.
The "be a whore" revolution did NOTHING for society except unleash an epidemic of unwed mothers that have become dependent on government subsidies instead of a husband. Their children are more like to drop out of high school, more likely to become unwed mothers, more likely to become convicted felons, and more likely to become dependent on government subsidies for food, housing, and medical care.
Single women SUCK at raising children, and we know this now largely due to the fucking "sexual revolution" the degenerate baby boomers started.
>>1356467
Yh yh go ahead girl nothings ever your fault NOTHING EVER THE FAULT OF WOMEN EVER NO WAY JOSE.
>>1356472
Do you have any sense of self awareness? Do you read the things you write and try to reflect?
>>1356470
And yet these horny idiots that support sexual revolution will continue to allow this, fun fact men were getting laid alot long before sexual revolution. The problem is the white knights they think women are mentally the same as men.
>>1356472
noted
>>1356482
You are the idiot that is trying to convince everyone Im complaining due to lack of sex that you in your think I suffer from because you a woman cannot fathom a man who isnt a virgin disagreeing with you or some stupid shit.
>>1356470
Any source for this? Legitimately curious
>>1356488
>The problem is the white knights...
Haven't been killed and eliminated from the gene pool.
The fact that western men prefer peace above all else has resulted in a cowardly society that is afraid to make unpopular decisions, even when those decisions benefit society as a whole.
>>1356498
There's tons of documentation, just do the reasearch.
>>1356470
>a white single mother
>in reality the majority of single mothers are black
>most cases of abuse come in the form of neglect by black single mothers
>the fathers are completely absent but it's the woman's fault
learn to read statistics
>>1356495
You are the idiot saying men are good bois who dindu nuffin while making the same argument towards women! Yes, all women are whores who use men as tools but men are all virtuous and pure who are only misled by female lies. You are a walking contradiction.
>>1356495
The easiest way to get women is to lack empathy, jerks get laid all the time because they show an always dominant impossible to control personality that turns on women greatly, the white knight faggots that lied to you and said that being a significant other to woman makes them happy were just the bulied victims of jerks that got laid more than them. The truth is that men are meant to be cruel to women and women reject this cruelty because its a psychological mechanism to determine if you are breeding material or not thats why they will laugh at not so socially adept men acting tough because they assume your a joke and if you submit and apologize you failed the test, if you continue acting like an ass you pass and they get interest in you.
>>1356514
>i love how you left that man dying in the street. fuck me now
>>1356510
Ethnic group has no impact, and while blacks are indeed leading the way for single mothers, whites are slowly catching up.
>>1356510
>the fathers are completely absent but it's the woman's fault
The vast majority of divorces are initiated by women. Women are also far more likely to be granted custody of children in court.
>>1356513
But women are pragmatic whores literally thats how your gender is programmed to behave thats why you can objectify men and use them like toys then discard them like nothing afterwards even if the man in question is your fucking husband for 10 years. Why? Because you are a woman you have no ability to truely "love" men all you can do is lust men like a wild animal that is what you girls really are wild animals that imitated behavior men taught them to act civilized.
Men should always be praised we are the reason we arent extinct, if it were up to your gender we would be dead because you care more about cock more than the survival of the tribe.
Sex in itself isn't a bad thing, and even the most degenerate acts have their place, but as with many things overindulgence in it leads to a depletion willpower and self-control.
The sexual revolution and resulting normalisation of abnormal sexual behaviour has led to generations of people wasting energy that would be best spent on more noble pursuits.
>>1356400
Pretty sure if sexrobots evolve into a replacment partners, women would get ones too.
>>1356519
Serial killers get lots of marriage proposals from married women, you aint fooling you stupid bitch you know you like those psychopaths.
>>1356528
I love how you assume I'm a woman. That's funny. Please though, feel free to back up those claims with proof or evidence. You seem to know women pretty well, are you sure you aren't one?
>>1356520
>Ethnic group has no impact
yes it does. look at your sources again
Jesus, is this >>>/r9k/ ?
Get fucking laid, dudes
>>1356527
who cares about divorces? marriage isn't a prerequisite to having children
>>1356510
>the fathers are completely absent but it's the woman's fault
While the fathers who leave are assholes, that is their right and they have to pay for it. Both socially and economically. They are one of the lowest social class, hated by everyone and have to pay child support.
Single mothers though get nothing but praise and support, even though it is clear that most single mothers are not fit to raise a child.
>>1356530
>people wasting energy that would be best spent on more noble pursuits.
like posting a dancing wiener on 4Chan
>>1356535
from literally crazy women. there is no single magic bullet to get all women interested in you. the behaviour of a small minority of women doesn't make for a convincing argument
>>1356544
Again with the virgin argument, r9k is full of males that worship women like prizes the cancer that caused sexual revolution in the first place.
Besides it makes men question the sentience of women if they prefer to breed with wild animals than civilized men, if women controlle the breeding we would be nothing but dumb psychopaths as a species that why nature allowed men to control the breeding via rape.
>>1356531
Of course. If feminists organizations do not push bans on sex robots.
When did i say otherwise?
>>1356548
>have to pay child support.
legally they're required to but that doesn't mean they actually do
>even though it is clear that most single mothers are not fit to raise a child.
weird way of interpreting the data
>>1356510
>>the fathers are completely absent but it's the woman's fault
As the feminist likes to remind society, it is entirely the woman's fault, due to the fact that it's "her body", which means it's "her choice".
You see, men can't just force their cocks into a vagina without the consent of the woman, and when they do, it's called rape, and the man is arrested and thrown in jail. Therefore, it is the woman that chooses to insert a cock into her vagina, and it is the woman that is responsible for being impregnated.
Men are easy, and, like women, we'll fuck damn near anything, which means we don't have to fuck your vagina. Your mouth? Sure. Your ass? No problem. Tits? Of course. We'll even fuck your hands. There's plenty of options to choose from, and they all avoid the potential for a pregnancy.
However, since it's "her body, her choice", then it's her fucking fault if she gets pregnant.
>>1356552
Elliot Rodger became more attractive to women after he killed people.
The Boston Marathon psycho has tons of love letters from random girls across America.
Dont get me started on muslims criminals in Belgium and Germany attracting alot of women either.
Btw this has nothing to with type, any guy with a brain can see that acting like an asshole will get you laid more than acting like a decent person it is best to say that assholes are a programmed base sexual attractor in women just as how submissive behavior is base sexual attractor in men,
>>1356555
Why would feminists ban sex-bots? They could create the perfect "feminist male" partner. I imagine to some it would preferable to a real man, because a robot can't be misogynist or uninclusive. It could also have a ten inch dick and huge biceps. Female bots for men reduce prostitution and porn. Feminists banning sexbots would be the dumbest thing they could do.
>>1356554
>if they prefer to breed with wild animals than civilized men
>why nature allowed men to control the breeding via rape.
Isn't Rape uncivilized, though? I'm pretty sure it was considered so even long before the Sexual Revolution
>>1356554
women control the breeding by the limits of pregnancy
>>1356540
No, it doesn't.
White children raised in single parent homes do WORSE than their peers raised in normal two parent homes.
They may not be as bad as blacks, but then again, nobody is?
>>1356566
none of your post is relevant to what i said
>>1356564
>legally they're required to but that doesn't mean they actually do
Then they go to prison. I don't know how it works in the U.S but the problem with single mothers is not exclusive to the U.S.
You also ignored my point about social ostracisation, men who leave their partners as single mothers are seen as on par with criminals.
>weird way of interpreting the data
You didn't provide any arguments here. It is the only reasonable way to see the data. In most cases single mothers are not enough for a child, especially a male child.
>>1356574
Yes rape is uncivilized, random rape that is, raping your girlfriend or wife should be allowed however, but anyway women want to be raped because that is backwards they are, you will notice that asking a girl for sex turns them off because they want you to dominate them, however white knights have allowed women to ban men they dont want to breed with the "rape cry" where if the girl doesnt consent its rape regardless if the whore had her clothes off and touched your dick. In truth nothing turns on a woman more than a man forcing himself on her while her morality hates her her pussy enjoys it and women are controlled by their pussies more than men are controlled by their dicks.
>>1356585
Of course not, because you lack integrity to accept reality.
>>1356568
i already addressed this in the post you're replying to. having a few more women interested in you doesn't mean they're not a crazy minority. again there's no one single personality trait that will make all women want to be with you
>Btw this has nothing to with type, any guy with a brain can see that acting like an asshole will get you laid more than acting like a decent person it is best to say that assholes are a programmed base sexual attractor in women just as how submissive behavior is base sexual attractor in men,
being an asshole isn't "lacking empathy"
you're just making shit up with poor reasoning and trying to suggest isolated cases are the norm
>>1356593
If rape was legal, i'm sure Chad would enforce natural selection, and your "civilized" ass would be forced to watch while he fucks your wife.
>>1356571
>Why would feminists ban sex-bots?
Not all feminists of course, but some of course want sexbots to be banned. For the same reason why some feminist organizations campaigned against the market sale of male contraceptives and campaigned against the research of male contraceptives.
It takes power away from women.
>>1356584
Idiot.
>>1356581
>They may not be as bad as blacks
so ethnic groups do have an impact. did you forget what you were arguing?
>>1356568
Did it ever struck to you that those cases gained media attention because they were extraordinary?
Google "Confirmation Bias"
>>1356605
You know who wants to ban sexbots too?
Christian men.
>>1356601
>being an asshole isn't "lacking empathy"
Assinine behavior is obnoxious behavior, a man can become more obnoxious the more he lacks the ability to give a single shit about other's feelings. You will notice the biggest male pussies are the ones who empathize with others too much.
>>1356603
Chad does not mean asshole, Chad is a term for any man that has high sexual attracting ability meaning a really hot guy not a jerk or a criminal.
>>1356590
>Then they go to prison
not really no. it's not always enforced
>men who leave their partners as single mothers are seen as on par with criminals.
only when it's actually known that they have a child
>It is the only reasonable way to see the data.
it isn't really
>>1356315
This is absolute nonsense.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db58.htm
>>1356613
http://elitedaily.com/women/science-attraction-bad-boys-still-kryptonite-women/990212/
Ok
>>1356595
you're the deluded one my friend. you couldn't even reply to a post properly, instead going off on some irrelevant rant
>>1356620
Wait, if Chad isn't an asshole, and women like Chad...Does that mean that women can like people who are not assholes?
>>1356624
Maybe you're trying to make a point, but showing evidence that birth rates were rising rapidly until the 60's, and then birth rates falling like a rock afterwards, is EVIDENCE OF THE EFFECTS OF ABORTION YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
>ITT: virgins autists and teenagers debating what women want or should do.
I don't think any of you has any idea
>>1356623
>not really no. it's not always enforced
Again, you are entirely too americentric. The problem exists outside of states, and trust me: in most European countries your ass goes into jail if you don't obey the law.
>only when it's actually known that they have a child
Ok? What is your point here exactly? You're just obfuscating the thing because you have actually nothing worthy to say.
>it isn't really
Tell me another way to interpret those statistics then. The only thing I'm seeing is that boys grown with only a mother-figure have horrible childhoods and adulthoods.
>>1356619
Ok? What is your point here?
>>1356444
You have provided 0 sources to back up your claims.
>>1356626
>not a single citation in the article
nice
>>1356635
No women like assholes but they also like good looks more than assholes infact good looks is the top base sexual attractor in both genders,but it means the woman is only there for your looks and your personality or some bullcrap they tell you to make you think they care about you in an unconditional manner.
Having a Jeremy Meeks face you can be the biggest pussy and still get laid.
Having a cock 10 inchs once women know will get you on women's radar.
Having defined muscles and a decent face will arouse them too.
If a woman likes a non asshole then it just means shes playing him or in it for the looks.
>>1356647
>Being against controlling women
Kill yourself, take a look at muslims look at how non degenerate their countries since they keep their cunts in line.
>>1356647
they don't but it's so much fun to watch!
>>1356655
How is that wrong? I'm pretty sure men like womens based on looks too.
Would you date a tumblrina landwhale, huh?
Yeah, thought so
>>1355866
>In your opinion, was the succesfull soviet subversion good?
I guess. The Soviets lost the Cold War, but won the culture war.
>>1356660
>muslim
>non degenerate
Oh my God, are you serious?
>>1356647
>virgin
This is so funny to me. Feminists claim their ideology benefits men as well, because they are getting rid of "toxic masculinity" yet immediately when thing get hard they resort to insults based on cultural norms that derive from the "toxic masculinity" they are combatting.
>>1356660
Why did you mom upset you so anon?
>>1356661
It's brilliant tebehe
>>1356649
>Again, you are entirely too americentric
there's nothing in my posts to suggest that. i'm not even american
>You're just obfuscating the thing because you have actually nothing worthy to say.
you're trying to say that absentee fathers are socially ostracised when in order to be ostracised by society for a reason, the reason has to actually be known. and how are absentee fathers ostracised more than absentee mothers, especially in a society that places motherhood above fatherhood?
>The only thing I'm seeing is that boys grown with only a mother-figure have horrible childhoods and adulthoods.
the absence of a father is felt, rather than the mother being inadequate. maybe it has something to do with the status of men in society rather than an inherent fault of the woman. there are plenty of ways to interpret the same data.
>>1356662
Yes but femanon we men can fall in love which overrides our biological pragmatism and makes us stick with a single female human for possibly life, this is something you dont have, and most men as young 13 year old boys get a taste of this feeling in the form of crushs butterflies in your tummy stuff, but as a man when you a woman you think MUH DIK rather than SHES SO CUTE I WANNA HUG HER.
Our ability to fall in love is also the only way you can control us because men enter relationships for love while you enter them for benefits and dick. Some dudes have relationships for sex but those dudes probably have girls they are cheating on with anyway. Notice how many men made songs about their deep devotion to the woman they loved KEY WORD WOMAN NOT WOMEN WOMAN yet when women make love songs only an idiots cant see its just a sex fantasy they are going on about.
>>1355869
Entirely this.
I feel pretty shitty about not having sex. I'm not entitled to it or anything, but the notion that people are now sexually liberated and fucking each other constantly stings.
>>1356660
>Non-degenerate
>Implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw68A77Tbm0
>>1356609
>so ethnic groups do have an impact. did you forget what you were arguing?
What part of WORSE than their peers raised in a normal two parent household do you not understand?
Did YOU forget what you were arguing?
>>1356673
Well anon my mom is a bitch who reproduced with an uncaring asshole while she was 19, she took our her butthurt on my dad using her like a cum dump on me and my siblings, she told me the nice guy horseshit yet I saw her all the time remiscing about my asshole of a father, sure she dated some guys but in the end all she wanted was my dad who was human garbage. When she told dad to come visit us out of prison he told her to fuck off.
>>1356697
they don't really fuck each other constantly though. normie life is actually really plain
>>1356631
Yea, that's it, anon.
I'm deluded by facts and reason.
You're deluded by emotion.
>>1356704
>mommy issues
Why am I not surprised?
>>1356703
>They may not be as bad as blacks
is my argument. it does affect the statistics
>>1356689
>but as a man when you a woman you think MUH DIK rather than SHES SO CUTE I WANNA HUG HER.
So, men don't love women, they just have feelings of lust for them
>Notice how many men made songs about their deep devotion to the woman they loved KEY WORD WOMAN NOT WOMEN WOMAN
Yeah, sure, there aren't a lot of songs about pussy and a lot of poems about tits
Also, the Women in poetry often weren't even real, they were idealized sex fantasies.
>women make love songs only an idiots cant see its just a sex fantasy they are going on about.
Maybe you're reading too much into things. Confirmation Bias.
>>1356712
you're the one who went off on some emotional rant about nothing in response to me talking about statistics
you're done.
>>1356726
No one is. Its like a reverse tumblr fatwhale
>>1356675
>there's nothing in my posts to suggest that. i'm not even american
>>1356510
>in reality the majority of single mothers are black
>most cases of abuse come in the form of neglect by black single mothers
>>1356675
>'re trying to say that absentee fathers are socially ostracised when in order to be ostracised by society for a reason, the reason has to actually be known.
Again, you are just obfuscating things. Who ever claimed otherwise? Of course it has to be known to socially ostracised. I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with your post, just that it was pointless and redundant.
>and how are absentee fathers ostracised more than absentee mothers, especially in a society that places motherhood above fatherhood?
Absent fathers are far more common. The society that puts motherhood above fatherhood also puts female feelings above male feelings. Absent mothers get a much more rigorous defence by the community than absent fathers.
>the absence of a father is felt, rather than the mother being inadequate.
This is you just putting the same thing in wording that shifts the blame on the father. It doesn't change the fact that a single mother inadequate for raising a child just gives a reason why the single mother is single.
>an inherent fault of the woman
never did I claim such a thing. The blame for the child is equal, BUT as i stated here >>1356548 "Single mothers though get nothing but praise and support". Criticising single mothers is socially unacceptable and talking about their issues is a taboo. It is especially relevant now, when homosexual marriage (and therefore adoption) is allowed.
Even bringing up these facts that a father figureless child has issues will get you into a lot heat.
>>1356669
I agree but anons ITT are 100% cluelesdl
>>1356732
>poems about tits
Finally, a reason to post my favorite poem
I love breasts, hard
>Full breasts, guarded
By a button.
They come in the night.
The bestiaries of the ancients
Which include the unicorn
Have kept them out.
>Pearly, like the east
An hour before sunrise,
Two ovens of the only
Philosopher's stone
Worth bothering about.
>They bring on their nipples
Beads of inaudible sighs,
Vowels of delicious clarity
For the little red schoolhouse of our mouths.
>Elsewhere, solitude
Makes another gloomy entry
In its ledger, misery
Borrows another cup of rice.
>They draw nearer: Animal
Presence. In the barn
The milk shivers in the pail.
>I like to come up to them
From underneath, like a kid
Who climbs on a chair
To reach the forbidden jam.
>Gently, with my lips,
Loosen the button.
Have them slip into my hands
Like two freshly poured beer-mugs.
>I spit on fools who fail to include
Breasts in their metaphysics
Star-gazers who have not enumerated them
Among the moons of the earth ...
>They give each finger
Its true shape, its joy:
Virgin soap, foam
On which our hands are cleansed.
>And how the tongue honors
These two sour buns,
For the tongue is a feather
Dipped in egg-yolk.
>I insist that a girl
Stripped to the waist
Is the first and last miracle,
>That the old janitor on his deathbed
Who demands to see the breasts of his wife
For the one last time
Is the greatest poet who ever lived.
>O my sweet, my wistful bagpipes.
Look, everyone is asleep on the earth.
Now, in the absolute immobility
Of time, drawing the waist
Of the one I love to mine,
>I will tip each breast
Like a dark heavy grape
Into the hive
Of my drowsy mouth.
>>1356731
No, it doesn't.
The children of single parents do WORSE than their peers raised in normal homes. Period.
>>1356736
>still avoids facts
Yea, we're done.
>>1356461
Punctuation mate, use it.
>>1356510
Is this also a problem in Africa? African families seem culturally stronger due to Islam & Christianity, poverty, their way of life, etc
>>1356746
yes i'm quoting american statistics (in response to american statistics) but that has nothing to do with the enforcement of not paying child support. again, i'm not american
>Absent mothers get a much more rigorous defence by the community than absent fathers.
you're just making shit up
>This is you just putting the same thing in wording that shifts the blame on the father.
no it's not the same thing in different wording. as i said, 'rather than the mother being inadequate' which is how people generally interpret these statistics. it's not the inability of the mother that causes the child to be unstable but the child's perception of a fatherless family. two different causes.
>Criticising single mothers is socially unacceptable
putting the entirety of the blame on single mothers is socially unacceptable.
>their issues
>The blame for the child is equal
contradiction?
>Even bringing up these facts that a father figureless child has issues will get you into a lot heat.
because of how it is interpreted and the contexts in which the data is presented (and what it chooses to omit)
>>1356766
now it's single parents not single mothers? haha
>>1356669
Nice try, virgin, but no one has problem with male purity (which doesn't exist, it's not like those males are virgins because they WANT to) in itself, it is because male virgins act bitchy and in general are fucked up in the head.
>>1356540
that's not how it works... the way it works it's actually pretty simple to understand:
>be the offspring of a single mother
>reach the fertile age
>if female: become a single mother
>if male: become an absent father
it's pretty much a cycle of retardation that keeps happening - where subhumans keep on breeding like rabbits spawning more and more subhumans who will keep on doing the same thing since they don't work like "regular" humans and follow their primitive urges and instints instead of planning their future
>>1356806
>but no one has problem with male purity
>male virgins act bitchy and in general are fucked up in the head.
Ok. Also nice quilt by association bullshit.
Just because I look at what other people argue, instead of using ad hominems doesn't mean I belong in that group.
Are you black if you argue against Cleetus from down the block whose argument is "They are niggers so that is why they are bad"
>>1356816
that is not the argument
i wonder why when it comes to crime statistics it's a black problem not a male problem, but with single mothers it's just the woman's problem rather than race
>>1356818
If you don't think male virginity is bad(which nobody in the real world implies, get outside of 4chan every now and then you sperglord), why do you go to such great lengths to imply you're not a virgin? Sure it wouldn't bother you anyways?
Really makes you think, doesn't it?
>>1356835
>but with single mothers it's just the woman's problem
Literally no one says that. The blame is always placed on the father who left, but mostly the issue just gets ignored.
>>1356838
>If you don't think male virginity is bad
When did I say it isn't bad? It doesn't discredit valid arguments is the only thing i said?
>(which nobody in the real world implies, get outside of 4chan every now and then you sperglord
Good argument lad.
>why do you go to such great lengths to imply you're not a virgin
What are these "great lenghts"? My two posts in this thread are: >>1356669 and >>1356818
"doesn't mean I belong in that group." is great lengths?
>Really makes you think, doesn't it?
Your post makes me think you are retarded can't face the fact that you are wrong on something.
>>1356849
That post explicitly says that that single mothers do not get the blame when the issue is multifaceted.
>>1356871
> it is clear that most single mothers are not fit to raise a child.
>>1356860
Well, you didn't bring one (1) compelling argument to the table, instead opting for spouting diatribe, which is a common sign of sexual frustration.
Even if you aren't a virgin (which i personally doubt), you haven't got laid in a long, long time.
>>1356873
How does a single woman teach a boy how to be a man, again?
>>1356835
it goes deeper in the past than that: blacks were enslaved, then marginalized and set to live in ghettos after getting their freedom and since they had little contact with their real roots they became self-destructive (like the indians) hencing the wewuzian theories: people need to know their ancestors were great and accomplish many important things and when that doesn't happen you start having some existential doubts which will either turn you in an apathic little fuck or if you're feeling pressure from many sides, a simple criminal with little to live for.
this is why the chinks immigrants -for example- became so financially successful when they went to america - they wanted their offspring to be successful and did huge sacrifices to ensure that happened. unlike the negros who were struggling to know their place in society and end up losing precious time and a golden opportunity to try their luck
>>1356877
If my argument wasn't compelling (ad hominems are redundant and that it is hypocritical for a feminist to use the virgin argument)
>>1356877
>diatribe
"a bitter, sharply abusive denunciation, attack, or criticism:"
Please tell me how >>1356669 fits that definition.
Now please actually answer my questions instead of finding new ways to use ad hominems.
>>1356896
all children are boys?
>>1356919
Meh. Single mother girls also have issues but not as bad as boys. There's some statistical proof to this but its mainly based on individual experiences.
But "Do not date a woman who only had a mother in her life" is one of the oldest "dating rules" that men have.
>>1356896
With family help? My mother was a single parent but my Uncle was an incredibly good role model for a young boy like I was. He was smart, successful, and has been married for over twenty years. My father was a wasteful drunk who left me when I was two. Most single parents have at least some family group which can help raise a child. You don't need a father and mother exclusively.
>>1356939
This is the thing. A woman can be a good father figure to a boy, just like a man can fill the role of a mother.
It isn't about biology it's about the role they fill.
>>1356896
The path to manhood is a crucible that can only truly be walked alone.
>>1356641
Birthrate peaked in the US in 1959. Roe v Wade was decided in 1973. I call bullshit.
>>1356267
Go to chaturbate and see for yourself.
The increasing number of women/young girls going into porn.
The normalcy of having one's nudes circling on the net.
The utter decay of privilege that sex once represented.
The lack of intimacy, being glorified in media and mass thought.
Just feels wrong, and IS wrong if we maintain that family with defined roles is what makes or breaks a society.
>>1356939
Yeah, you're just the very picture of a model citizen.
>>1356944
You're delusional.
>>1356508
Thanks for admitting you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
>>1356948
Woman can't even show a boy the starting line.
>>1357079
>Just feels wrong, and IS wrong
Literally "I don't like it therefore it's bad"
>>1357025
You know abortions were happening before Roe, yes?
You troglodyte?
>>1356216
>It permits women to have more men pleasing them in bed, therefore more men are pleased and women are pleased.
That's literally the opposite of how it works. If given the choice, women have sex with LESS men. Women are naturally hypergamistic and only accept the top 40% of men. They want them so bad they would prefer sharing them with other women over having exclusivity. That's why historically only 40% of men got to reproduce, while 80% of women did.
If you're looking at it from a male perspective, the sexual revolution is a damn catastrophe. Conservative monogamy was a genius invention by the patriarchy to keep all of society happy. If you break that down, you destroy the delicate balance and glue which has been sticking everything together. It's no coincidence the new generation of men is growing up to be so underachieving. It's literally your fault.
>>1357090
>if we maintain that family with defined roles is what makes or breaks a society.
why do I even try with you fools.
It's going to get western civilization displaced for what pursuits of sterile sex do to birth rates. Anglos were the first Americans to practice contraception and it ended up as brain drain for the next generation since only high IQs respond to contraceptives.The Idiocracy can't into birth control and the left doesn't get that and goes muh educayshun. JD Unwin was right.
>>1357099
>why do I even try with you fools.
heh...nothin personnel, fool
*unsheathes autism"
>>1357104
made me chuckle hahaha
(semi)LOL, might I add.
it's bad because everyone's getting laid but me
>>1357084
>He said
>on 4chan
Please yes enlighten me master on the true path.
reminder that there is nothing more important for women than spreading their legs without consequences directly bad for them.
In Europe, girls from the age of 15 to 18 have free anonymous contraception.
Reminder that pregnancy before the ride of the cock carousel is despised by women today. which is why they demand the least consequences from their desire of sex.
>>1357096
>That's why historically only 40% of men got to reproduce, while 80% of women did
I would say high male mortality and rapes had more to do with it.
>>1356261
Les petites mineures peuvent ENFIN se faire trousser sans problèmes. Dommage que l'homme doit être mineure lui aussi....
>>1356470
Good post, and I agree.
Allowing women to have children outside of marriage is just dumb, but to encourage and even celebrate it is the ultimate folly.
>>1356498
Look at his image.
>>1356647
Do your relay so heavily on women's approval for your self worth that "virgin" is the worst insult you can think of?
Shameful.
>>1357194
people often insult by projecting their insecurities and thinking everyone share them.
The fact that calling someone a virgin is considered prime insult speaks volumes.
In animalistic sense it makes sense, but for 21. cent human it's :v
>>1356603
Then I'll fuck Chad in the ass!
>>1357224
So what about cuck, beta, and degenerate? Do those insults speak to the insecurities of those who use those them as well?
>>1357153
>love of men towards children = utility [towards pleasure]
Are you saying you're a pedophile?
I wouldn't be surprised
>>1357259
If it's MAIN insult someone uses frequently than it speaks something about that person.
To be surrounded with ppl who you want to insult with same insults every day also speaks a lot about company you make.
Seldom different spirits end up in same circles.
Women will do anything to be stupid monkeys even if it means destroying society jesus christ.
>>1357242
Famous chinese technique, all three are happy. Well done.
>>1356803
A single mother is a single parent and most single parents are single mothers.
>haha
>>1355866
lol no
>>1357318
women are like fire, or sunlight, or electricity or nuclear energy.
If any of those would be left unchecked things wouldnt look good.
Smart society harnesses women and uses them without harming them, to fuel the endeavors of the whole/men.
Because men are doers, and women supporters.
It works best that way.
And I value both sexes contribution.
>>1355866
>was the sexual revolution good?
I don't know. It hasn't reached me yet.
>>1356260
Why get laid when you can use magic?
>>1357354
In smart society both have to be checked and males more since they are more prone to destruction.
>>1357437
And being disaffected and not allowed a family leaves the testosterone to be misdirected. Look at the middle east where Islam has institutional harems, all the betas that don't get any have to go off to jihad.
>>1356697
Same. Everyone I hang around for longer than 10 minutes can tell, too and I get hours of shit for it. What really stings for me is how they're always completely bewildered when they learn this. But shouldn't be fairly obvious I'm unattractive both physically and emotionally? Eh, besides that, I'm happy enough with my life.
>>1357437
I agree both the female and male energies can be expressed in destructive ways.
And male energy is destructive in same ways males are behaving loud and with a bang.
Female energy is destructive (when allowed) more in corrosive and subtle ways erroding from inside.
The difference in controlling them is that male energy is directed and harnessed via initiation, while female energy is harnessed via male.
Thats why in the holy books God>Man>Woman
It represents responsibility. But many focus on value, while value is something I choose not to focus on since it's shared.
Without proper male masculine models enforced by society, many males wander in search of meaning of their essence.
What is extra challenge, is that males are being brainwashed to accept more female behavior as their own.
I understand that was needed in industrialized society to make ppl work together on large scales, but it has its down sides now coming into picture.
Though I admit similar things are happening for females, though they dont go trough initiation since appeal of women is not evolutionary based in her ability but in her beauty. Women pay indirectly because they lack men who would direct them and shape them.
>>1357598
>>1356697
My lack of wanting to adapt to mainstream topics and trends, interests that differ from 90% of ppl and demeanor that accept mostly people who submit to me, has made me pretty well - lonely.
What angered me most is from my perspective - lack of intimacy today.
Sure I want sex, but intimacy during sex is more important than only sex.
>>1357653
Yeah, I'm so lost when I talk to people these days. Actually, was I ever not lost talking to people? The best I can do is talk about the news and even then I rarely keep up with it enough to carry a decent conversation.
>Men no longer considered human, living on a outcast planet that's no longer considered a planet.
>We stare, from the cold hadean distance, Persephone and the rest of the planets, laugh and dance in the blinding sun and each other's warmth.
>Even the smallest of pity warmth burns and aches, yet we no matter how far we go, we never really leave.
>We men of Pluto, pulled in, but never accepted, rule the empty kingdom, filled with a starfield of cold lights and noises.
>We men of Pluto, gaze outward and downward, but never forward, lest the sudden reminder of our eternity crush us yet again.
>Still, if the only way to warmth is to cheat and steal, then let us be lonely forever.
[spoiler]Sorry about the faggy poetry. I'm having the feels.[/spoiler]
>>1356571
Feminists and woman in general are not able to create or invent anything, the very nature of woman implies that they are created to carry births and support the man
>>1355866
Yes, sex sells.
>New cases of STDs cost nearly $16 billion a year in direct medical costs, according to the CDC.
>About 50.5 million current infections are in men while 59.5 million are in women, for a total of 110 million Americans with STDs at any given time.
>>1357094
Obviously they were happening before Roe v. Wade but by that logic we should have seen rstes declining since the turn of the 20th century, as condoms and later abortion became more acceptable. But the data disagrees
>>1356470
>>1356510
>learn to read statistics
Read upon more articles, books and consult authorities on the subject to get a better and complete insight about the topic you form an opinion about.
Yes, growing up in a disturbed household and being from an ethnic minority have an influence on later criminal behavior. There are however a lot more factors that come into play, such as low performance at school, substance abuse, few ties with society, hanging out with a delinquent peer group without effective supervision, genetic makeup and many more. The factors may also interact with each other. The causality is very complex. These are themes that the life course criminologists deal with.
There are also different perspectives and theories about crime. Edwin Sutherland and his Differential Association say that crime, or rather: the motivations and techniques to commit a criminal act, is learned within intimate groups. Gottfredson and Hirschi and their 'general theory of crime' say that crime is the result of low self control. Again, there are many more theories.
Secondly, what crime is caused? Crime is not simply the definition in a dictionary, because it has many dimensions. Are it violent crimes or white collar crimes? Is it really crime or is it enforcing of a norm (Donald Black: Crime as Social Control)? Is it violation of a moral or is it something that is disliked by a few people with power?
Source image:
Kubrin, C.E. & Weitzer, R. (2003). New directions in social disorganization theory. Crime and Delinquency, 40, pp. 374-402.
>/pol/ in my /his/
>/r9k/ in my /his/
>>1356939
if all of that is true, this is an extremely rare event.
remember this is a continuous cycle in most cases; meaning the grandmother had the mother when she less than 20 years old and no father to help out, the mother had the son/daughter with the same age and with no father around either and so on and on...
and obviously this kind of people aren't good role models at all - even after so many years have passed.
when this happen a smart children will look for a role model outside the familiar frame; a stupid one will also do the same hence why so many celebrities are worshipped today and why most of the youth wants to be an famous as if this was a profession.
tl;dr: retardation only breeds more retardation and to be able to break the curse, most people will need guidance outside the immediate family circle.
>>1357840
Sounds like you should read some Meditations.
Life's not that bad if you have a few good friends to share dank memes with and female companions for Friday night outings.
Id say that media and society in general has overblown the concept of sex and what to expect out of it to a large extent.
And while I do acknowledge that men and women are different (on a fundamental level perhaps), the most important thing is to treat them (women) like people instead of a walking vagina/babyfactory or goddess of perfection.
Following that thought, I'd also say that women are better at certain things than men. Raising a single child is probably not one of those things.
I'm genuinely curious as to if the current generation's problem with white knights, social autists and basement dwellers existed before the sexual revolution.
>>1358140
>I'm genuinely curious as to if the current generation's problem with white knights, social autists and basement dwellers existed before the sexual revolution.
I think it's pretty clear at least social autists and basement dwellers did exist. Look at Nikola Tesla and how he viewed women.
>>1358140
White knights did exist in the past.
Nobles who tried to court women could be classified as that by modern standards. As for basement dwellers and social autists, that's basically what most hermits and high ranking academics were.
The sexual revolution, as well as massive changed to society in general, just resulted in these betas no longer having a place in society.
>>1358166
Women to Tesla are literally mindless retards from his perspective.
>>1358140
Society has never had a problem with white knights. It's only a recent development and even then, only within the gender power movements (ie, Third Wave Feminism and MTGOWs/MRAs).
The main problem is that the sexual revolution didn't happen everywhere. Less developed countries with basically no women's rights still breed like rabbits while the birth rate in first world countries is very low in comparison
No, it caused the AIDS epidemic.
>>1358229
>>1358166
>>1358188
Would you anons say that the sexual revolution made these character "archetypes" more prevalent/prominent in society?
Or at the very least more difficult to change.
Having the top 40% of men take up the majority of sexual gratification and/or attention from females would seem to just make it more difficult for the rest of the 60% to get into that "top zone"
I don't know much on the topic as a whole and this thread has been rather enlightening/entertaining.
>>1356944
>A woman can be a good father figure to a boy...
BULLSHIT.
Only a self-centered woman could EVER believe some stupid shit like that.
A man isn't going to be able to understand and explain the commencement of menstruation to a girl the way a mother can, and a woman isn't going to be able to explain why and when a man needs to fight, and not be a gigantic pussy, the way a father can.
That's why young males form gangs, and look up to older brothers. They NEED male role models, not bitches that think they can be male role models, and if they can't find one in the house, they will find one outside of the house.
>>1358772
Why wouldn't women know why its ok to fight?
>>1358777
Why would they?
>>1358780
Because that knowledge isn't based on genetics. Women fight for what they believe in all the time.
>inb4 testosterone
Fighting because of testosterone is not a good reason. Fighting because of other reasons can be. And those reasons are not related to gender.
>>1358780
My single mother taught me to defend myself from bullies. You don't need personal experience with something to say that action is beneficial.
>>1358789
>Women fight for what they believe in all the time.
No they don't.
The majority of them just run their fucking mouths without fear of consequences, and then when they get their asses kicked, they cry and play the victim.
>>1358793
I'm glad for you.
Most bitches don't.
Regardless, if you had a decent father, he would have taught you how to fight, or enrolled you in boxing or wrestling, if your mother didn't.
>>1358733
I couldn't really say they're increasing without a hard source. But if they were, the why of it isn't that clear cut. Is really because of the fallout of the sex revolution? Or maybe technological progress is stunting social development of vulnerable individuals? Or perhaps this is just a natural consequence of becoming a developed nation? Or maybe resources for 1st world countries are good enough to support these kind of outcasts and we're just seeing them more because they haven't just been thrown out into the street to die of starvation for being unable to socialize, thus succeed? Correlation is not causality.
>>1358777
The biggest problem with single mothers is that once the boy hits puberty, then HE becomes the "man" of the house.
At that stage, he's usually bigger and stronger than his mother, and therefore, becomes the defender in the family. Unless the kid has a good head on his shoulders, he's going to do pretty much what the fuck he wants, because there's nothing his mother can physically do to stop him.
>>1358822
>The majority of them just run their fucking mouths without fear of consequences, and then when they get their asses kicked, they cry and play the victim.
Source? That's your experience maybe but not mine.
>>1358831
This to me is a much bigger issue. Knowing what NOT to fight. At least from praxing it out and personal anecdotes.
>>1358886
>Source? That's your experience maybe but not mine.
United states society where any time a bitch gets her teeth knocked out by a dude for running her mouth, people cry foul because "men aren't supposed to hit women".
See: Johnny Depp, Chris Brown, Ray Rice
>>1358921
So your first reaction when dealing with a mouthy individual is to beat their teeth in? And you're upset people don't see your way? Are people words really so affecting to you?
The normal reaction to a bitch running her mouth is "Fuck off."
>>1358954
Actually, my reaction is to simply leave, but even that doesn't stop some people...
Having worked in a club on the door staff, I've seen all kinds of stupid shit people do, anon, and the worst were always women.
>>1358886
>Source? That's your experience maybe but not mine.
women cry to ostracize somebody thanks to getting attention from the betas who will defend women as soon as they can.
In the end, women do not need to fight, because men love to fight for women
No, the reason we fuck is so we can have kids. The sexual revolution makes it seem like monogamy is an obsolete thing, as if its telling us that we shouldn't bother finding people to start a family with.
>>1359795
>No, the reason we fuck is so we can have kids.
>ought = is guys I am so smart LOLLOLLOL
>>1356470
This is your confirmation bias
People who are generally of low intelligence are more prone to producing offspring without much thought behind it, this results in a lot of single mothers having to take care of a baby/kid that by the way could be with his father but I don't see you blaming the father here at all, weird how that goes, it might have something to do with your virginity, but what do I know...
People of low education, low intelligence, belch forth problems en Masse by being irresponsible, violent, neglecting toward their children and give bad role models an a bad environment for children to grow up in. Marriage wouldn't solve any of these issues per se (not persay you fucking illiterate amerikeks) because the issues lies within the upbringing and the genetic possibilities those people have, a stupid kid (genetically speaking) can still grow up to be a wonderful human being, it's just that society has become so anonymous and shallow over time due to urbanization and capitalism that people who are already worse at having children raise their children poorly which results in more bad parents and immature and stupid adults
>>1357079
>The lack of intimacy
This is because you spend your time wanking on chaturbate rather than getting a girlfriend
>>1357099
>That a family with with defined roles is what makes or breaks a society
No it isn't.
>>1358822
Who the fuck are you? coldsteel?
>>1355866
yeah they did a pretty great job of ruining this country
>>1360460
How did they ruin it?
And who's "they"?
>>1360478
And what country is he talking about?
>>1360516
America I'd assume
Sexual revolution made the current sexual minority crap and gender identity mess possible.
All of them combined are 1.5% of society yet they're constantly hogging attention and acting as if their status is some grand civilization defining question.
>>1355866
>was the sexual revolution good?
>https://radishmag.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/pump-and-dump/
>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/04/the-sexodus-part-1-the-men-giving-up-on-women-and-checking-out-of-society/
>http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/09/the-sexodus-part-2-dishonest-feminist-panics-leave-male-sexuality-in-crisis/
>https://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/
No.
>>1360988
>https://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/confessions-of-a-reformed-incel/
Christ that was hard to read...
>leftists are opposed to laissez-faire economic policies, because they realize such policies will lead to a concentration of wealth since only a few people are able to accumulate resources in a "free" economic environment
>leftists support laissez-faire sexual policies, even though it has the same results as the economic policies, the accumulation of resources at the top, immiseration at the bottom
Are they simply blind, or are they actively hypocrites? They always want regulation in areas they can't compete, but in the area they are competitive they demand absolute freedom.
>>1361060
You can regulate $$$ but not sex, does you tiny brain get that?
>>1361065
Sure you can
>>1361065
>what is prostitution
>>1361066
No you can't
>>1361068
You are impressively stupid if you think that's got anything to do with it.
>>1361071
You can though. Violence works wonders in terms of coercion and correcting behavior.
>>1361077
Not sure how you'd implement that.
Btw, are we talking or is Pepe? It's hard to tell at this point.
>>1361082
Public and collective punishment obviously.
Personally I think physical punishment should be brought back as it's in many ways superior to imprisonment and has a corrective function for communities.
Not a muslim though, it's just an example of people who DO practice corrective violence and collective punishment.
>>1361065
What is marriage, specially in a context where sex is only socially acceptable within it, if not regulation of sex?
>>1361090
I'm not sure if you're maymaying or not at this point.
>>1361096
So you're retarded I guess.
>>1361098
Carefully applied and justified violence is great. Don't see how that's so incomprehensible to you.
>>1361104
And I'm asking you if you're being srs or not.
>lindt cafe
Nice touch.
>>1361113
I am, yes.
I don't believe in human rights, that our body necessarily has much value nor that prison is good and effective.
>>1361120
And you don't move to Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Iran or any other place like that because...?
>>1361121
Because none of those are my people or the lands of my people.
>>1361122
That's complete hogwash lad. How long have you been living in denial?
Also
>post paypays
>>1361127
But they're not. I believe land and blood-soul is of significance.
Don't have anymore islam-related Pepe's unfortunately.
>>1361139
>land
Why?
>blood-soul
That sounds positively Clive Barker mad. What does it mean?
What is this paypay supposed to represent anyway?
>>1361147
That Pepe is dressed as an indian and has just scalped 3 Stacey's
>land
I think each tribe were given their land by God to fit their spirit. Which is why industrialization and climate change is not only a threat to life but a threat of spiritual death (see Linkola on forests and the finns)
>blood
The tribes are divided as they are because their blood carries the potential for their soul expression. This is why mixed blood nations like USA and latin-america are so insane and its peoples spiritually broken and unhappy.
>>1361169
Sorry to break our convo here, but
>>>/x/
What you're saying is borderline insane.
Have a last Pepe tho.
>>1361176
I was not aware that this was a strictly materialist board here friendo
