Is the Khazar Origin theory true? Are Jews just jumped-up T*rks?
Most modern Jews are descendants of Khazars, yes.
Even more modern Jews are descendants of Jews who were expelled from Palestine, though.
You can be descended from two different peoples.
>>1349481
No, modern Ashkenazim look the way they do because they interbred with white Europeans for 1000 years, not because some steppe tribesmen called themselves jews for a couple decades.
what is the main basis of this theory?
>>1349748
Proto-stormtardry
>I hate those damn kikes!
>But, I value Christianity for some reason or another
>And a lot of early Christians acknowledge the value of the Jews, or at least of their laws!
To resolve the cognitive dissonance this creates, they need to come up with a way to separate modern Jews with Biblical era Jews. The Khazarian hypothesis was something that used to be reasonably popular among certain circles, due to, IIRC, some similarities between Yiddish and Turkic languages. Nowadays, most of that ilk instead just claim that Rabbinical Judaism is bunk and the Jews forfeited any claim with the rise of the rabbinate.
>>1349481
Actual genetic tests taken from Ashkenazi participants of a genetic survey sort of disproved this.
Not true from a scientific point of view, they have half semite and half european blood. Some of them might have lived in Khazaria.
From a religious point of view Jesus was not a semite (he was God), and modern Hebrews are not Jews either because they killed God.
>>1349481
>Is the Khazar Origin theory true?
No, after the Jews Revolts the Romans scattered the Jews throughout the Empire and because of this, Judaism became a missionary religion, actively seeking out converts wherever they could get them, as this was the only way to prevent Judaism from dying out and disappearing.
Thus today’s Jews aren’t descendants of the Hebrews, the Levantine Arabs are, as they never left and the genetics prove this.
>>1349481
I recall reading a genetic study done on Ashkenazim & it linked them to caucasia & northern anatolia that was posted on /pol/ a few months back. Any anons have that?
>>1349502
they always looked like that
>>1350715
so? thats because of their mesopatamian roots, and anatolia is in the levant anyway
>>1349481
khazar is descendant from khazak, meaning 2 Hebrew Strong
>>1350762
>Anatolia is in the Levant anyway
If you use a wide definition of the Levant. The core of the Levant is Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, and Jordan.
>>1349502
>No, modern Ashkenazim look the way they do because they interbred with white Europeans for 1000 years
Seems highly unlikely. The Church wouldn't perform a marriage between a Christian and Jew in the Middle Ages (the Orthodox Church still won't). So you're suggesting either an abundance of illegitimate sexual relations with Jews, or an awful lot of Christians converting to Judaism
I think it's funny that Koestler, who had a large part in popularizing the hypothesis, thought that by separating Jews from the "christ-killers" he could end antisemitism. Whoops.
>>1350195
what about slave converts? was that a thing?
>>1352405
>implying impregnation is an artificial phenom directed by the authority of governing entities
what is circumcised dick and pussy collisions m8
>>1349481
It's traditionally assumed that Ashkenazim were of Turkish stock like Khazars, while Karaite were Tatar stock.
Only sephardics are the traditional Jew of yore.
>>1352405
During the 8th and 9th centuries in the west it was uncommon for the marriage rite to be done in a church or by a priest. The church did not have the needed resources back then to give services to the majority of the population.
>>1349481
Karaims of Lithuania and Poland could be descendants of Khazars. There's no link between Ashkenazi Jews and Khazars though.
>>1352405
>Seems highly unlikely. The Church wouldn't perform a marriage between a Christian and Jew in the Middle Ages
Dude, there was huge intermarriage between Jews and peasants in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Some authors estimate it on 5% per generation. Virtually every Pole (barring some super-inbred aristocrats) has some Jewish ancestry and vice versa.
>>1349502
but jews are look distinctively different to gentile europeans. You can spot them from a mile away
Pretty pointless, since jews are not only Ashke, and they tend to mix with native populations anyhow.
Khazaria was just one of the many locations jews moved following the diaspora
I haven't seen a single proof that the small elite of the Khazar empire that converted to Judaism for political reaons survived, migrated and eventually formed the Ashkenazis.
>>1349481
>medieval Caucasians
>turks
