My favourite civilization are the Amhara-Tigray and I like most Ethiopian peoples in general, like the Gurage, the Kembatta, many Oromo subgroups like the Guji, Arsi or Tulama, many Omotic peoples like thje Dizi, Wolaytta, Maale, Gamo or Kaffa, etc. ^_^
Are there any more Ethioboos like me around here? Would love to share ideas with you. :-)
>>1344417
i'm not ethipian but i personally feel a particular affection for you guys
>>1344417
Is it true they conquered Yemen?
>>1344417
I am making a thing where I put together pictures of ethnic groups of each country. I just finished with Ethiopia and it was interesting learning about all these different people.
>>1344453
Wow I just realised I fucked up the girl next to Maale, going to fix that now
>>1344464
Indeen, here's a better picture.
>>1344453
Why do some of them look like Indians?
>>1344453
Holy shit, why are there so many?
>>1344453
What's the story of the Hadiya?
>>1344543
Argobba
>>1344541
They speak Hadiyya, an Afro-Asiatic language, and there's around 1.2 million of them. Here's a bit about their history and stuff
http://www.refworld.org/docid/3dece1ea4.html
http://hadiyoss.yolasite.com/hadiya-history-and-culture.php
>>1344445
Yes, during the time of the Aksum Empire. :-)
>>1344427
Well, I'm not Ethiopian either, I only have a keen interest on them. :-)
>>1344453
I love this board because you can find people with all sorts of interests, even people interested in Ethiopia. ^_^ I like your photo and I congratulate you for the hard work. :-)
>>1344548
They live in the north of the country and speak a Semitic language so I'm guessing there's more Caucasoid influence?
My favourite African country. I spent about two months there.
Friendly people, lush land.
>>1344554
Thanks. I was happy doing it because they're so interesting. I don't want to derail the thread but I also had fun with Eritrea, very beautiful people too.
>>1344563
Here is a young man of the Hamer people.
>>1344417
It does have a pretty interesting history, with the Christian empire surviving in near isolation after the 7th century surrounded by Muslim and pagan enemies, almost collapsing several times and yet somehow managing to come back every time. I find it amazing that it still exists. The whole region is pretty unique outside of just the Christian areas too, though I still find the latter the most interesting.
>^_^
>:-)
Please no.
>>1344445
Yeah, in the 6th century they conquered the Himyarites (the rulers of all of Yemen at that point) because their Jewish king was persecuting Christians. They didn't really rule directly but set up a kind of puppet-state under Ethiopian rulers, until the Himyarites called on the Persians (enemies of the Byzantines, and thus their Aksumite allies) for help later in the century and pushed the Aksumites out. It fell under Persian rule then and soon after the Aksumite state fell apart for a bunch of reasons. The 6th century conquest was really the culmination of centuries of smaller interventions in Arabia.
I really really really hope this thread cam survive without people starting to compare races.
>Hey Gebre, how do you want your Church?
>I want it to be made of one single piece of rock
>>Got you senpai
>>1344594
>>1344453
>that one with bottlecaps in her hair
>Konso looks like a nig Twilek
>Nuer and Muris are deformed
>Gumuz seems to be branded, not sure if ceremonial or slave
Also, Woylayta seem to be fairly interesting, in the sense that they form a minority in the country and have greatly influenced
>>1344567
Are the Jeberti an Arab people?
>diet /pol/ autists continue to treat Ethiopia as something unique because of le Christianity meme, disregarding a dozen comparably developed East African societies because they happen to be Muslim
>>1344666
I like Wolaytas, they had a centralized and stratified kingdom and they practiced patrilineal primogeniture. They were patrilineal, unlike their Amhara-Tigray neighbours to the north, who were ambilineal.
Here is a history of the Wolayta, if you are interested in them: http://horizon.documentation.ird.fr/exl-doc/pleins_textes/divers11-11/010047727.pdf
It is in French, I hope you can understand it.
>>1344563
Same, spent a month in Dessie and Addis Abeba. If you guys are interested in reading about modern Ethiopian history, I recommend Prevail by Jeff Pearce. It goes into extreme detail about the Italian invasion, occupation, and eventual liberation of the country by the Anglo-Ethiopian-Afrikaner force in 1941.
Fair warning, reading about all the atrocities the Italians commit and then get away with is pretty infuriating to read. Some of the worst of them are even honored today with statues and the like.
>>1344696
They are related to Arabs and they speak Arabic and Tigrinya
>>1344712
>t. Hassan ibn Ibrahim
No other East African society is in any way comparable with Christian Ethiopia. The Swahili only had an impressive civilization between around 1000-1500 AD, and even then Ethiopia was far more impressive. The only other comparable civilization was Nubia. They were Christians.
>>1344453
you forgot Gurage and a host of others ferenj.
>>1344417
I'm Ethiopian and I can't stand most 4channers who like us because more often then not you faggots try and separate us from the rest of Africa.
even worse are you faggots that obsess over my jewish community
>>1344713
They originated Ensete cultivation
>>1344528
Because we don't live in a land where assimilated everyone together and call ourselves French or English
>>1344577
>straw huts of ancient design in the background with a tribesmen in the foreground in traditional body paint and dress
>holding a fucking ak47
This goes for the majority of subsaharan africa
>>1344798
Sorry dude, couldn't find a picture for them all, unfortunately. But I did include Gurage, look again.
>>1344823
Nope, someone else posted that
>>1344827
good
>>1344839
We are overwhelmingly Ethio-Somali, Ethiopic and Nilo-Saharan and align with the peoples of East Africa from Sudan to Northern Tanzania.
our material culture and agricultural system until 2k years ago were aligned to the kreb based cereal cultures of the Great Sahel and the great Pastoralist societies of the Aqualithic. Our adoption of wheat, barley and chickpeas came via the Nile.
Yemenis are like us because Yemen was Ethio-Somali BEFORE it was Arab being populated by proto-Mehri populations and we conquered them, mixed with them and they retain our cultural influences before further Arabization.
there is no evidence of a massive demographic shift of Middle Easterners in Ethiopia or the horn.
get over it.
>>1344859
I think East African populations should unite under a single organization, like the East African Community, That would be great. There are many ties that bound different East African cultures together. Think about the Lacustrine kingdoms like Rwanda, Burundi, Buha, Karagwe, Ankole, etc., for example. Their social and political institutions were probably an imitation of those of the Omotic kingdoms.
>>1344900
>imitation
what the fuck is with you and you're rigidity? there is more than enough information regarding the coming together of Eastern African nations for over 2k years.
East African union if it were to exist would have to be under the United Nations geoscheme Eastern Africa. An African Indian ocean littoral economic region basically.
>>1344859
>We are overwhelmingly Ethio-Somali, Ethiopic and Nilo-Saharan and align with the peoples of East Africa from Sudan to Northern Tanzania.
>there is no evidence of a massive demographic shift of Middle Easterners in Ethiopia or the horn.
So you're talking about race here, rather than stuff that actually matters like culture.
>our material culture and agricultural system until 2k years ago were aligned to the kreb based cereal cultures of the Great Sahel and the great Pastoralist societies of the Aqualithic. Our adoption of wheat, barley and chickpeas came via the Nile.
Unfortunately for you, this isn't 2000 years ago.
This is the same argument you were making before; you think you're 'African' because you're genetically related to some other people in some other parts of the same landmass that Europeans decided to call 'Africa'. If you stopped looking at the world through a racial lens you'd realise that Christian Ethiopian highlanders have no more in common with Nigerians or South Africans than they do with the Chinese or Peruvians. For over 2000 years they had a unique civilization influenced by Arabia and the Mediterranean but developing mostly in semi-isolation (at least after the 7th century), but you get pissed off when ever anyone tries to appreciate that and have to remind everyone that none of that matters because you share half a haplotype with some prehistoric tribesmen in Tanzania. Believe it or not, some people are just interested in civilizations because they're interesting on their own. I'm interested in Ethiopia because it's an interesting and impressive civilization, and that civilization is ultimately related closely to other civilizations in Asia and Europe and is best understood in the context of Asian and European civilization. Maybe that doesn't apply to prehistory, but we're not talking about prehistory.
>>1344937
Why did my comment piss you off? I didn't understand you, sorry.
>tfw no sea access
JUST
>>1344948
>>1344948
I am not looking at a racial lense I am looking at an autosomal and socio-cultural material culture that has stood the test of time.
Your interest in Ethiopia is some "Christianity and Eurasia brought them this" rather than understanding Ethiopian and East African (including Arabia Felix) coming to be through the opportunities and ability of Ethio-Somali, Ethiopic and Nilo-Saharan peoples.
What you don't get is the "Arabian" influences are by a people who are us. The Mehri are an ethio-Somali peoples, the Sabeans are an ethio-Somali people who were the dugong hunters who transitioned into sailors and traders.
the resins that make my home region world know were from tappers from the region utilizing them for religious purposes.
the foundation of islam and the famous Islamic cities of Arabia come from Sabeans.
You are the racialist for assuming a land means a radically different people
>>1345001
I agree with wthat you say, but why did I anger you when I said that lacustrine kingdoms were porobably influenced by ethiopians and that East Africans should be united? Do you disagree with these ideas of mine?
>>1345001
>Your interest in Ethiopia is some "Christianity and Eurasia brought them this" rather than understanding Ethiopian and East African (including Arabia Felix) coming to be through the opportunities and ability of Ethio-Somali, Ethiopic and Nilo-Saharan peoples.
My interest is in the civilization of Ethiopia. I see history in terms of real cultures and civilizations, so when I look at the history of the development of Ethiopian civilization I see it as the product of both influences from other cultures and civilizations and internal development within Ethiopian civilization itself. This development is only 'African' in the sense that it happened on the landmass of Africa.
>What you don't get is the "Arabian" influences are by a people who are us. The Mehri are an ethio-Somali peoples, the Sabeans are an ethio-Somali people who were the dugong hunters who transitioned into sailors and traders.
What the hell are 'Ethio-Somali' peoples and why the hell would Arabians be a part of it? You're just blatantly trying to appropriate the accomplishments of other civilizations by assuming some kind of primordial connection with them. Sabaean civilization developed in Yemen with influences from Egypt and the Fertile Crescent. It wasn't an Ethiopian or a Somali development. It was a civilization developed by people in South Arabia which later influenced the development of societies in the northern Ethiopian highlands, who then created their own separate civilization.
It's amazing that you're so desperate to avoid admitting Ethiopia was influenced by cultures outside of Africa that you're actually claiming Yemen as African. Are you going to say Christianity is an African religion too now?
>the resins that make my home region world know were from tappers from the region utilizing them for religious purposes.
>the foundation of islam and the famous Islamic cities of Arabia come from Sabeans.
Uh, okay.
>>1345057
You are perpetuating the "Hamitic Myth" we know Savanna Pastoral Neolithic migrated south but it was the co-influences between SPN and the agrarian and hunter societies is subsumed within that narrative.
>>1345069
The cultural and genetic reality of Southern Arabia is under no circumstances appropriative.
Linguistically, genetically and developmentally the basis of Arabia Felix is clearly rooted in Ethio-Somali groups.
The Mehri and other speakers of South Arabian all speak a semitic language with a clear Cushitic substratum. These are related to non-Arabic semitic languages and peoples.
>"The Arabs during the pre-Islamic period used to practice certain things that were included in the Islamic Sharia. They, for example, did not marry both a mother and her daughter. They considered marrying two sisters simultaneously to be a most heinous crime. They also censured anyone who married his stepmother, and called him dhaizan. They made the major [hajj] and the minor [umra] pilgrimage to the Ka'ba, performed the circumambulation around the Ka'ba [tawaf], ran seven times between Mounts Safa and Marwa [sa'y], threw rocks and washed themselves after intercourse. They also gargled, sniffed water up into their noses, clipped their fingernails, plucked their hair from their armpits, shaved their pubic hair and performed the rite of circumcision. Likewise, they cut off the right hand of a thief.
—Muhammad Shukri al-Alusi, Bulugh al-'Arab fi Ahwal al-'Arab, Vol. 2, p. 122
>Modern South Arabian languages are known for their apparent archaic Semitic features, especially in their system of phonology. For example, they preserve the lateral fricatives of Proto-Semitic.
>Militarev identified a Cushitic substratum in Modern South Arabian, which he proposes is evidence that Cushitic speakers originally inhabited the Arabian Peninsula alongside Semitic speakers (Militarev 1984, 18-19; cf. also Belova 2003)
You need to study before you speak.
>>1345198
I can't figure out what you're trying to say anymore. You ignored everything I wrote. You've made up this 'Ethio-Somali' grouping based on nothing and are trying to imply that because Cushitic was once present in Arabia, that somehow means they're the same people as Ethiopians and the development of Sabaean civilization is somehow an 'African' accomplishment. It makes no sense. None of that greentext has anything to do with anything I'm talking about. Nothing you're saying makes any sense.
>>1345238
You don't know what you're talking about and I am telling you that you need to read and study before you talk to me about my people's history.
the fact you think ethio-Somali is made up and the fact that you conflate Ethio-Somali to just Ethiopia shows your own ignorance to the topic at hand.
I know /his/ is full of kids who think they now about "stuff" but this is a topic I take seriously and I don't take kindly to you're pol/tier/ notions of Ethiopia and the Horn.
>>1345248
Can you specify what 'Ethio-Somali' is? A language family? A race? A culture? Another way of saying Cushitic? I've never heard of anything described as 'Ethio-Somali'.
You seem to think you're some kind of expect because you can greentext irrelevant information, but you haven't refuted anything I've said. Nothing you've posted has anything to do with the origins and development of Ethiopian civilization. You're rambling and incoherent and don't seem to have any point to make.
>>1345321
i'm not an expert you're literally just too stupid to look the things I talk about then because you don't know the topic at hand get into hissyfits and name call.
I've talked to you about this, I've given graphs, websites, sources, etc... you don't want to take this seriously so I won't with you.
>>1345352
You haven't given me anything relevant to the discussion or made any argument refuting anything I've said.
>hissyfits and name call
What exactly did I call you?
>>1345375
I have that's why you called me an Afrocentric and racist, I've spoken to you a half dozen occasions on here and have given you more than enough information in that time and you still act as though I haven't given you Jack squat.
I already posted the genetic data, I already showed you what makes up ethio-somali and ethiopic, I already showed you historical sources, geography and archaeological information.
I'm done with you because eveb after all that you strawman and ask the same questions everytime even when your questions are not pertinent to the topic.
Now in telling you that if you want to talk to me about Ethiopia and the Horn you better spend some time reading the data that's accumulated over the past few years because this "They got it from Arabs" deal your pulling is so simplified and uneducated.
>>1345248
>I know /his/ is full of kids who think they now about "stuff"
You should never take /his/ seriously lol.
It's like one of the worst boards on 4chan at the very bottom of that category but super shit in it's own way and you can make a laundry list why it sucks quite easily.
>>1345514
You still haven't made an argument. You haven't given me any reason to think that the development of Ethiopian civilization was an 'African' development. You haven't given me any reason to doubt that the development of civilization in northern Ethiopia wasn't initially due to the influence of the South Arabians. You haven't given me any reason to think that the development of Ethiopian civilization was significantly influenced by the rest of the African landmass beyond the areas immediately neighboring northern Ethiopia.
All you've shown me is that Cushitic was once spoken to some extent in South Arabia, something which is of no relevance to the discussion. You just keep dumping irrelevant information instead of making an argument.
Based on everything I've read, Ethiopian civilization emerged among the native population of northern Ethiopia/central Eritrea due to close contacts with the Sabaean civilization in the 1st millennium BC, with the highlanders adopting literacy, urbanism and statecraft from them, these being the very foundations of civilization. This 'Ethio-Sabaean' civilization gave way to Aksum around the 1st century AD, which came to intellectually and influenced by the Mediterranean world culminating in a conversion to Christianity. After the 7th century Aksum declined and Ethiopian civilization moved south into the highlands under the Zagwe and Solomonic dynasties. This development was limited to the Ethiopian highlands and was not a pan-African development; it had nothing to do with anything going on in Nigeria, Mali, the Congo or Kenya. Nothing you've said has given me any reason to doubt this narrative.
>>1345593
Scholars like Stuart Munro-Hay thus point to the existence of an older D'mt or Da'amot kingdom, which flourished in the area between the 10th and 5th centuries BCE, prior to the proposed Sabaean migration of the 4th or 5th century BCE. They also cite evidence indicating that the Sabaean settlers resided in the region for little more than a few decades.[4] Furthermore, Ge'ez, the ancient Semitic language of Eritrea and Ethiopia, is now known not to have derived from Sabaean, and there is evidence of an Ethiopian Semitic-speaking presence in Eritrea and Ethiopia at least as early as 2000 BCE.[4][10]
Sabaean influence is now thought to have been minor, limited to a few localities, and disappearing after a few decades or a century, perhaps representing a trading or military colony in some sort of symbiosis or military alliance with the civilization of D'mt or some proto-Aksumite state.[4] However, Kitchen et al. (2009) assert that the Ethiosemitic languages were brought to the Ethiopian and Eritrean plateau from the Arabian peninsula around 2850 years ago, an introduction that Ehret (1988) suggests was associated with the establishment of some of the first local complex societies, but isn't widely supported by the academic community.[11]
>>1345710
Great Wikipedia quotes.
>Scholars like Stuart Munro-Hay thus point to the existence of an older D'mt or Da'amot kingdom, which flourished in the area between the 10th and 5th centuries BCE, prior to the proposed Sabaean migration of the 4th or 5th century BCE
Sabaean influence goes back far earlier than the 5th century. D'mt, if it existed (there are some doubts it was a true state), was a Sabaean-style kingdom. Hell, in the you responded to I included a picture of a Sabaean-style altar, complete with inscriptions, dating from between the 8th and 6th centuries BC.
>They also cite evidence indicating that the Sabaean settlers resided in the region for little more than a few decades.
>Sabaean influence is now thought to have been minor, limited to a few localities, and disappearing after a few decades or a century
This is misleading. Sabaean populations probably did not last that long, but that doesn't mean their cultural impact disappeared. Their civilization, including literacy, urbanism and statecraft, remained.
>Ge'ez, the ancient Semitic language of Eritrea and Ethiopia, is now known not to have derived from Sabaean
This is about language, not literacy or any other aspect of civilization. Ge'ez script is without a doubt derived from South Arabian scripts.
>>1345710
>>1345771
>During the first millennium BC, a state with Sabean characteristics appeared on the plateau in Tigray and Eritrea. It is archaeologically identified by the so-called pre-Aksumite culture (c. 1000/900 BC–100 BC/AD 100). This state is recorded in the inscriptions with the name of ‘Kingdom of Da’amat’. It most likely relied on the ‘plough and cereal complex’. The ruins of a stone dam, possibly going back to this period, at Safra in the Kohaito region (central Eritrea) suggest that artificial irrigation also was practiced. On linguistic, epigraphic and monumental evidence, the origins of this state have been usually ascribed to a south Arabian – more specifically Sabean – colonization of the plateau in the first half of the first millennium BC. At present, it seems that the kingdom originated from the contacts between an indigenous chiefdom and the southern Arabians, who deeply affected the local cultural pattern.
>The Middle pre-Aksumite Phase (c. 700/600–300 BC). The kingdom of Da’amat appeared in this phase. Its territory stretched from western Tigray to central Eritrea. Most likely, the capital was located at Yeha (western Tigray) and monumental and epigraphical evidence stresses a direct link with the kingdom of Saba in southern Arabia. Some rock inscriptions recorded in Eritrea point to contacts with other south Arabian peoples and there were also contacts with the Nubian kingdom of Kush, the Achemenian Empire, and the Greek world. The nomads living in the Atbara and Gash alluvial plains were included in the area of Ethiopian influence.
http://www.uu.se/digitalAssets/9/9650_FattovichAll.pdf
>>1345771
Ge'ez is a language dumbass.
Also the sources for the wiki copy pasta
http://www.dskmariam.org/artsandlitreature/litreature/pdf/aksum.pdf
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/276/1668/2703.full
>>1345798
>Ge'ez is a language dumbass.
Here's an article you might be interested in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_comprehension
The article you posted was talking about the origins of the Ge'ez language. That's not relevant. The origins of the Ge'ez script on the other hand is very relevant, since it's integral to the development of Ethiopian civilization. The Ge'ez script is derived from South Arabain script.
Ethioboo here. Spent 4 months in west gojjam """"finding my roots""""" and chewing a shit ton of chaat. Feel free to ask me anything. Not so much of a history buff, but what the fuck.
>>1345814
It was a short cultural influence though with contact of South Arabeans and even then the influence and culture died in the late pre- aksumite phase and the traditional cultures reappeared. Not to mention that contact and trade was nor limited to the South Arabeans as they traded with many other people
On the origin of D'MT:
>At the present state of research, the origins and development of the D’MT polity are very uncertain. Actually, we do not know whether this was a true territorial state or a constellation (federation?) of small polities sharing the same basic cultural model, and where the initial core area of the polity was located.
>Epigraphic and monumental evidence of an indisputable South Arabian influence in pre-Aksumite times suggests that this polity emerged as a consequence of interactions between the human groups living in central Eritrea and Tigray and the South Arabs, in particular the Sabeans, who dominated the highlands in Yemen in the 1st millennium BC. The nature of this interaction, however, is uncertain and passionately debated. Specialists in South Arabian archaeology and epigraphy tend to support the hypothesis of a migration and/or colonization from Yemen in the early 1st millennium BC as the main factor of state formation in the highlands. Specialists in African archaeology, on the other hand, like to stress an indigenous origin of the D’MT polity. In my opinion, the factual evidence we have is very ambiguous and does not support any South Arabian migration and/or colonization, although it does not exclude the penetration into the highlands of small groups coming from different regions of Yemen, including Saba.
From The Development of Ancient States in the Northern Horn of Africa, c. 3000 BC–AD 1000: An Archaeological Outline (couldn't find a version available online freely)
>>1345832
What country were you born in and what made you interested in Ethiopia? What do people do for fun there?
>>1345834
>It was a short cultural influence though with contact of South Arabeans
The influence was continuous. The actual settlement of Sabaean populations, assuming it happened at all on any significant scale, is what was short lived.
>even then the influence and culture died in the late pre- aksumite phase and the traditional cultures reappeared
The D'MT state or states collapsed. This is not the same thing as Sabaean-influenced civilization dying off. Urbanism and literacy were both preserved, at Matara for example. The only thing that might have disappeared were states. Nonetheless, the Aksumite state emerged in a society that was already a civilization. At that point it had diverged and developed into its own civilization distinct from Arabia, but that in no way changed the fact that it developed out of a Sabaean-derived civilization.
>Not to mention that contact and trade was nor limited to the South Arabeans as they traded with many other people
I never at any point suggested otherwise. They traded with plenty of people, but the main cultural influence was Sabaean.
>>1345842
Aren't there a bunch of untranslated writings from that era? Could that shed better light on Ethiopia during Antiquity?
>>1344417
What are your thoughts on the Eritrian Ethiopia conflict?
>>1345885
I haven't heard about that, but I imagine more research and excavation in Ethiopia/Eritrea and maybe Yemen too could uncover new inscriptions that might shed more light on it. What's more important in terms of the scale of settlement is material culture though.
Recent excavations in Tigray do suggest Sabaean settlement; https://www.jstor.org/stable/41622129
>>1345900
But how much was it because many say it wasn't much past a few trading posts
>>1345907
According to this article they were fairly large colonies. I'm sure there's still plenty of debate about this though.
This seems interesting
https://web.archive.org/web/20060109162335/http://www.addistribune.com/Archives/2003/01/17-01-03/Let.htm
>>1344453
exclude the nilotic and omotic people, there history in ethiopia is just as slaves
>>1344453
you went out of your way to make somalis look bad
>>1346601
How does she look bad? She looks fine to me. If you feel I should use another picture then post a better one.
>>1346618
My uncle told me that Ethiopians see the rest of Africans as inferior, but I ddin't think it was so bad.
>>1345898
I think it's saddening beceause the Tigrinya people are Ethiopians, Eritrea shouldn't exist as an independent nation. The Tigrinya people are descendants of Aksumites, if they are not Ethiopians, then who else are?
>>1345198
Oh, I don't support the "Hamitic Myth", I know that the ancestors of Tutsis were in all probablity Nilotes, not Ethiopians. I'm just saying that they probably adopted many institutions typical of Omotic kingdoms.
>>1344554
i see, but i don't think you have the same interest that i have
>>1346597
Modern Ethiopia is an imperialist expansion.
At any case all Ethiopians have Ethiopic roots and Ethiopic people's were the initial farmers of the region. Until quite recently Ensete which they domesticated was a wide spread crop, up to lake Tana and it is they who domesticated it.
>>1346618
Please take to your anachronisms elsewhere
>>1346725
I don't believe "adoption" is accurate, it assumes one group had no bearing on the other which is foolish to me
>>1344453
I knew Ethiopia wasn't exactly a monoculture region but holy fuck.
>>1346618
>literal starving violent anarchists looking down on anyone
Top kek
No wonder Somalis are called the gypsies of Africa
>>1344453
>>1348411
no they aren't the closest we have to that are Fulani. They are true wanderers.
