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is star trek communist utopia
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>>1337888
yes
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>>1337888
Yes
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>>1337888
Yes. That is why it's fiction.
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It's also a military dictatorship.
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>>1337907
elaborate
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>>1337903
>>1337899
>>1337891
Then why does the society have classes?
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No, definitely isn't communist. It's post-scarcity for sure, and has heavy socialist elements. There are however classes and heirarchies, and references to capitalistic economic systems associated with the federation, though likely purely through perhaps unintentionally making the series relatable for it's viewers.

I don't think I'd call a nation that's constantly at war and fearing it's own demise a utopia whatsoever.

Anime is better, by the way. LoGH blows the Star Trek franchise out of the water entirely.
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>>1337993
mikimoto girls are so sexy
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>>1337907
this. It's a benevolent military dictatorship with heavily socialist policies
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>>1337907
Yet they suck at war
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>>1338004
Birthgiving body
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>>1337993
GUNBUSTA
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>>1338019
>those perky tits
fuggin perfect
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>>1337946
How would they educate people without them?
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>>1337993
But why wouldn't a communist think it is perfect? If a communist would say it is perfect then it sounds like a communist utopia.
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>>1338043
Sorry I didn't realize all communists were infallible reporters of what is and is not reality.
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>>1338051
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>1338016
...like a military dictatorship?
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>>1338040
So it's not communist
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>>1337903
No. That's because it's fiction.
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>>1338095
Taking Things Too Literally: The Thread
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Atheism run amok
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>>1337993
>LoGH blows the Star Trek franchise out of the water entirely.
>LoGH
>Blowing anything but weeb neets dick

lel read better sci-fi faggot!
t./lit/
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>>1337888
Pokey mans is a socialist utopia
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>>1338382
>read
Is it even translated?
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>>1338389
Yes.
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>>1337888
Oddly, Star Trek can't be communist, specifically because it is completely post-scarcity.

Communism requires a series of communes based on areas of production, the management of which is completely under the control of the laborers in each area. There are no laborers in the Federation to speak of, and no production to speak of. At least from TNG on, though there's some hint of such, all necessities are provided by replicators, so any labor that exists, is entirely voluntary. The laborers that do volunteer don't seem to have anymore political power than the average citizen, save those within Star Fleet.

Further there's a centralized government in place. The Federation and its military arm of Star Fleet, both of which seem to be elected directly or appointed by proxy. So there's no communes. I suppose one could setup communes around individual replicators, but seeing as how they seem to be about as common as toasters, perhaps because they can replicate themselves, that would be rather pointless.

So what you have, is not communism, but a post-scarcity Republic, with civilian and military arms (well, and the shadow government of Section 31). The only economy seems to be in the service industry and exchange of ideas, and all the labor for that seems to be entirely voluntary and without pay, only respect, and perhaps, influence in individual fields.

Between other nations and the Federation, however, capitalism seems alive and well - as it is in the undeveloped frontiers. They are never real clear on how exactly that works.
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No, Star Trek doesn't conform to any existing economic models because economic models focus on optimal resource allocation, and the existence of replicators has created a post scarcity world whereby resource allocation is an irrelevancy.

If anything, Star Trek is a libertarian utopia, because it seems like the Federation only really exists to coordinate foreign affairs. The average people of the Federation probably have no interaction with their government at all.
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http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Trek-Marxism.html
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