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>Mummy in China
>Doesn't have Chinese features

What's her ethnicity?

http://www.livescience.com/43782-mummies-have-oldest-cheese.html
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Mongolian
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another pic
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Looks African, just more proof that this is true:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFhS-49WGGY
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>>1333019

WE
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>>1333023
WUZ
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>>1333032
CHINAMEN
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>>1333049
AN
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>>1333000
Tocharian Indo-Europeans. Therefore white.
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>>1333000
Turkic. Quite obviously so from the hat. Turkics are originally from eastern Siberia, where many still live. These modern (east) Turkics still wear felt hats with a peak that look very similar.
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>>1333066
Not quite, they aren't European but rather west Asian. You see them in Afghanistan.
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>>1333000
Turkic/Central Asian.
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>>1333177
>>1333090

but she doesn't look turkic in that pic >>1333016
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>>1333164
3000 years ago, they were Caucasian (not European - their ancestors were part of the original Indo-European migrations). See pic related for another more clear example.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharians

The current inhabitants of these regions show mixed genetics (Caucasoid/Mongoloid) as a result of millennia of mixing and conquest by groups like the Mongols.
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>>1333016

which one is more accurate?
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>>1333299

meant to reply >>1333236

those reconstructions are very different from each other.
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>>1333016
>>1333000
Is it weird that I still think she's kind of qt?
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>>1333300
True, but clearly Caucasoid. Not Turkish/Asiatic looking.

Search google images for "Tarim Basin Mummies". They're almost Nordic looking, /his/bro. A lost civilization...
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>>1333350

man, the pre history is truly interesting.
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>>1333350
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/07/18/these-red-haired-chinese-mummies-come-from-all-over-eurasia-dna-reveals/#1d16c504a423
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>>1333321
Yep
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>>1333000
Just a Finnish sex slave captured by the Korean proto empire.
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>>1333361

Yeah, it's mind-boggling the more you look into it. Some questions just boggle my mind, for instance what was behind the world-wide megalith culture? It was apparently gone by the time any histories were written down. Yet the similarity between megalithic structures (dolmens, stone circles, menhirs, etc) found in Ireland and Korea, for example, is astounding. But we know hardly anything about the people who built those structures.
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>>1333627
>it's mind-boggling the more you look into it. Some questions just boggle my mind
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>>1333631
Excellent catch.
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>>1333000
Indo-European. There presence in China is nothing new, although the Chinese would love for it to be forgotten
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuezhi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xionites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hephthalite_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wusun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiongnu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karasahr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordos_Loop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordos_culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6kt%C3%BCrks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donghu_people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherchen_Man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkhon_inscriptions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serica
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WE
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>>1333000
Looks Chinese to me.
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>>1333405
>Forbes
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>>1333649
This. Also there's considerable evidence that Temujin was of Indo-European descent, along with a good portion of the mongol population. He was red haired and green eyed and supposedly had white skin according to eye witness accounts, though Chinese paintings depict him with black hair and asiatic features. His wife was blonde. Regardless, you still find red or blonde haired Mongols naturally from these populations today.
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>>1333627
Blame glaciation. Anything before the last ice was ground into dust and pretty much anything that survived was either lost to flooding thanks to plate tectonics or built over.
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>>1333649
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiongnu
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6kt%C3%BCrks
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donghu_people
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orkhon_inscriptions
Yenesians,proto Mongolics and Turkics are Indo European now?

Modern day China =/= Historical China.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serica
Mythical kingdom with no historical basis,sericulture had its origin in neolithic northern China.

>>1333713
>This. Also there's considerable evidence that Temujin was of Indo-European descent, along with a good portion of the mongol population.
Classic historical revisionism. Rashid-Al-Din never met Genghis Khan.

Mongolic originated in the Greater Khingan range and autosomal studies show that Mongols are mostly of East Eurasian descent.
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>WE WUZ CHINKZ N SHIIETT
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>>1333649
What are you talking about? The original Chinese were black.

http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/China_1.htm
>A genetic study done by researchers from all over the world: China, Japan, U.S.A. U.K. and other countries, and published in 2001; definitively answered the question of Chinese origins. The findings were that the original Chinese were 100% pure Black African, with absolutely no outside admixture - But here again, we are talking about the original Black Chinese, modern Chinese are quite different.
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>>1333066
>http://www.livescience.com/43782-mummies-have-oldest-cheese.html

In the sense that Indians and Iranians are white, sure.
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>>1333627

>Stone blocks piled next to each other look like other stone blocks piled next to each other
>Amazing
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>>1333000
>Taklamakan Desert.
Well that area didn't use to be Chinese.

>>1333649
>There presence in China is nothing new, although the Chinese would love for it to be forgotten
No? They know the Area didn't use to be under Chinese rule. Not to mention the Uyghurs still have Indo-Iranian features among them. How could they forget that?
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>>1333649

WE
WUZ
STEPPE BARBARIANS N SHIT
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>>1333719
Explain hundreds of Palaeolithic archaeological sites and remains of settlements.
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>>1333000
Why are there so many damn threads on race on this board all of the sudden
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>>1333000
Do the Uyghurs have connection to them? Being Turkic they sometimes look pretty chinky and in other cases they look European
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>>1333933
Everyone is white when it's time for white people to take credit for the history of other people.
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>>1334228
Yes, those mummies are from the Tarim basin, where the Uyghurs now live.
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They were a very early offshoot from Indo-Europeans. The mummies that have been found became more mongoloid and less caucasoid over time hinting a replacement.

>Chinese historian Ji Xianlin says China "supported and admired" research by foreign experts into the mummies. "However, within China a small group of ethnic separatists have taken advantage of this opportunity to stir up trouble and are acting like buffoons. Some of them have even styled themselves the descendants of these ancient 'white people' with the aim of dividing the motherland. But these perverse acts will not succeed".

And this comment is what make me doubt the validity of Chinese research. They are blatently trying to defend Han nationalism with biased research.
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>>1334228

Red hair is a sign of inbreeding, it's not unique to Europeans but obviously if you have pale hair then the red is more obvious.
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>>1334308
He's referring to the Uyghur Separatists, which claims the whole of Xinjiang province.

When in history the Uyghurs were limited to the few city-states they claimed from the Indo-Iranians in the Tarim, like the Kingdom of Khotan for example. Xinjiang was the creation of the Qing Dynasty following the victory of versus the Dzungars in which the conquered Uyghurs were lumped with some western provinces, which includes shitloads of non-uyghurs such as Han Chinese, Hui, and Mongols.
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>>1334308
China doesn't care about han nationalism, they just want to keep the state and its borders intact.
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>>1333697

>I don't know how to check references
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Just because its China doesn't mean Chinese. China is a huge country and much of it covers the area which Indo-Europeans expanded into eastward.
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>>1333016
Post more
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She is Chinese and ancestral to modern northern Han Chinese populations.

Most Northern Han Chinese from the Central Plains from Gansu, Shaanxi, Shanxi to Hebei have large amounts of Caucasian ancestry Western Asian from the Yuezhi who mixed with the Qiangs directly ancestral to modern Chinese

Also modern Northern Han Chinese, mostly in the western provinces, are heavily mixed with western Siberian populations like Yenesians and possess a lot of Ancestral Northern Eurasian genes, which a lot of Finni-Ugric speakers also possess. That's why you see a lot of haplogroups N and Q with some R show up in males in northern China

It is an undeniable fact Northern Han Chinese are part caucasoid and ANE (Ancestral Northern Eurasian)
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>>1334318
okay?
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>>1333649
>although the Chinese would love for it to be forgotten

Why do you throw bait into your post just to make it political?
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>>1334308
>And this comment is what make me doubt the validity of Chinese research. They are blatently trying to defend Han nationalism with biased research.

>they
One guy? And he isn't even "defending han nationalism". Are you autistic?
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>>1334698
>She is Chinese and ancestral to modern northern Han Chinese populations.
Late Shang Yinxu mtdna was directly ancestral to modern day Northern Han.

>Most Northern Han Chinese from the Central Plains from Gansu, Shaanxi, Shanxi to Hebei have large amounts of Caucasian ancestry Western Asian from the Yuezhi who mixed with the Qiangs directly ancestral to modern Chinese
Bullshit. West Eurasian/ANE admixture is highest in Mongols while the Daur and Hezhen have even less.

> That's why you see a lot of haplogroups N and Q with some R show up in males in northern China
N was found in neolithic Hebei/Liaoxi/Inner Mongolia being gradually phased out by O and C. Q came from Inner Mongolia.

>It is an undeniable fact Northern Han Chinese are part caucasoid and ANE (Ancestral Northern Eurasian)
This is equivalent to a 1/32 White Cherokee.
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>>1333000

do people realize that place is not china proper? it is central asia, and before the turks expanded it was fully iranian.
she may be tocharian, similar to modern pamiris.
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Haplogroup F is blowing my mind
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>>1333049
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>>1333000
Kidnapped white qts, as usual since centuries ago
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Either Tocharian or Turkish. Tocharians were basically Aryan nomads I think.
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