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why do some Irish people look Scandinavian and others middle eastern?
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someone explain dis
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inb4 someone posts the discredited meme of Irish people being descended from Iberians
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Darker Irish are descendants of the original population that came from Middle east/Iberia the others are later Germanic's.
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>>1331388
The only one in that picture that looks middle eastern is the third guy on the bottom right. The rest just look tan or more Iberian.
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>>1331388
Genetically, Ireland is a mix of pre-indo-european (pre-celtic), celtic, and germanic.
Haplogroup R1b, associated with pre-indo-european populations (nearly 100% frequency in Basque populations) reaches levels of 90% in Ireland. This common pre-indo-european genetic heritage shared between Irish people and Northern Spaniards is at the basis of their physical similarities.
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>>1331388
>middle eastern
no one looks midly middle eastern in that pic.
also hibernians were most likely proto-indoeuropean, like the basques, so it would make sense they would look like them
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>>1331388
levels of 90% in parts of* Ireland I should say
Which accounts for the differing phenotypes.
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>>1331400

They would be considered swarthy in Iberia though.
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>>1331412
>R1b
>pre-indo-european
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/dec/28/origins-of-the-irish-down-to-mass-migration-ancient-dna-confirms


>The ancestors of the Stone Age farmers began their journey in the Bible lands, where agriculture first began, and arrived in Ireland perhaps via the southern Mediterranean. They brought with them cattle, cereals, ceramics and a tendency to black hair and brown eyes.

>These settlers were followed by people, initially from the Pontic steppe of southern Russia, who knew how to mine for copper and work with gold, and who carried the genetic variant for a blood disorder called haemochromatosis, a hereditary genetic condition so common in Ireland that it is sometimes called Celtic disease.

>These people also brought with them the inherited variation that permits the digestion of milk in maturity – much of the world becomes intolerant to the milk sugar lactose after infancy – and they may even have brought the language that became what is now Irish. Some of them, too, had blue eyes.
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>>1331388
they're called black irish
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>>1331457
you can really see the Guardian's anti-Indo-European sentiment on display in that excerpt.
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rapebabies from the spanish invincible armada shipwrecks
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>>1331752
....how?
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>>1331910
>be 16th century Irish farmer, Seachnasaigh Ó Bullaunancheathrairaluinn
>at the beach with the lads
>some swarthy gimp with a moustache floats to shore on a piece of driftwood
>shank him in the neck and steal his morion
>amateur anthropologists in the future will make up stories about how he fucked my wife to explain why some Irish people have dark hair
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>>1331991

But fair Irish came from sailors
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