So... When was bows become outclassed? Look like these guys would be shot dead by any archer worth its money. Rifles of that time was the jokes.
>>1331005
Maybe it just takes a bit longer to learn to use a bow properly, dunno.
>Better range
>Better accuracy (by time)
>Impossible to evade its projectile.
>Can easily shoot moving targets.
>Easier to master
>Also melee weapon
>>1331005
Muskets outranged the shit out of bows.
There's a reason Nomadshits stopped being a problem by the late 16th Century.
>>1331031
>Better accuracy (by time)
Are you sure about that? About period arms?
Also, how slow do you think an arrow travels?
>>1331028
What about crossbows?
>>1331031
Ohh and
>deeper penetration
>can carry a shit-ton of ammo easily
>bullets are much more easy to make than arrows.
+its much more scary when fired
>>1331005
>Look like these guys would be shot dead by any archer worth its money
[citation needed]
So which weapon is more accurate over what range? What were the penetrating power? Etc.
>inb4 while your question is valid in a general sense, you sure have an exceptionally poor way of wording it.
>Rifles of that time was the jokes.
[citation needed]
The people in >>>/k/ might disagree and might have the expertise to give you an objective answer
Also, aren't the weapons pictured muskets and not rifles?
>>1331044
>can carry a shit-ton of ammo easily
Back in the day, you had to carry bags of barrels of gunpowder. Obviously, it was more dangerous than carrying sticks.
>>1331038
>Are you sure about that? About period arms?
Yes.
Bows are inaccurate as fuck unless when firing at flat trajectory, that is at several dozens of metres. Well-fitted musket ball will be much better than that and rifle ball will be literally godly-accurate in comparison.
>>1331042
Crossbows were phased out at around the same time arquebus became more popular while bows were still used here and there(in eastern europe for instance as light cavalry weapon) for the reason being - they were even more outranged than bows.
>>1331038
U can easily dodge or block an arrow what you see coming from 30m<
But u cant a bullet
>>1331034
>Manchu Invasion of China.
>>1331057
>Manchu Invasion of China.
Not Steppe Nomads. Try again.
>>1331055
>U can easily dodge or block an arrow what you see coming from 30m
It wouldn't take half a second for the arrow to it you from that distance.
You see too many movies.
>>1331057
What >>1331059 said.
Also the Ming Dynasty was overthrown by the Shun Dynasty: a rebel group. The land was thrown to chaos, meaning much of the work was done already for the Manchus.
Also:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_conquest_of_the_Ming#Han_defectors
>Hong Taiji recognized that Ming Han Chinese defectors were needed by the Manchus in order to assist in the conquest of the Ming, explaining to other Manchus why he needed to treat the Ming defector General Hong Chengchou leniently.[42] The same posts were retained by Ming officers who defected to the Qing.[43] The Ming would not be easily defeated as acknowledged by Hong Taiji unless musket and cannon wielding Han Chinese troops were used alongside the Banners.[44] The Qing received the defection of Shen Zhixiang in 1638.[45] Among the Han officers who defected to the Qing were Shen Zhixiang, Ma Guangyuan, Wu Rujie, Zu Dashou, Quan Jie, Geng Zhongming, Zu Zehong, Zu Zepu, Zu Zerun, Deng Changchun, Wang Shixian, Hong Chengchou, Shang Kexi, Liu Wuyuan, Zu Kefa, Zhang Cunren, Meng Qiaofang, Kong Youde, Sun Dingliao.[46] Aristocratic and military ranks, silver, horses and official positions were given to Han Chinese defectors like Zhang Cunren, Sun Dingliao, Liu Wu, Liu Liangchen, Zu Zehong, Zu Zepu, Zu Kufa and Zu Zerun. Han Chinese defectors managed and organized a massive amount of the military strategy after 1631.
The Shun's penchant for retarded massacres of Ming Officers led to huge defections to Hong Taiji by Ming Generals. Guess what they brought with them? Yeap, cannons and muskets.
>>1331068
Well, its still managable in 0.4 sec (at 60 m/sec speed) but ok, from 60 m< than
