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Why did Japan lose so badly?
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Why did Japan lose so badly?
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>>1317724

When you're outbuilt about 8:1 on most relevant classes of ships, against an opponent who tends to build better ships and planes than you've got, it almost always ends badly.
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inferior technology, inferior industrial output, inferior leadership, inferior spirit
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>>1317724
Outnumbered, outgunned, fighting on multiple fronts, inferior industrial base, inferior material base, inferior technology, outdated tactics, extreme distance from allies
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The IJN was crap
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>>1317733
>inferior spirit
Objectively and undeniably wrong on this point. Spirit is the only thing they had better than literally everybody else
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>>1317724
They were an island with no resources propped up to global prominence by British support. They lost the support and then picked a fight with the largest national economy in the world. The rest is history.
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>>1317737
>outnumbered, outgunned, and cornered
The UNSC could have pulled it off.
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>>1317740
They had too much spirit?
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>>1317740
>muh suicide attacks
This is delusion not spirit. The African American soldier had every reason to hate the country he fought for, but he did so anyway. Why? Because he was allowed to think for himself, though some might not like it he could stop listening to American propaganda and obtain communist literature or anything he fancied, he decided for himself that the US was the lesser evil in an imperfect world where you have to make trade-offs, that the war was an opportunity to prove himself and prove the racists wrong and that he wasn't going to let the other soldiers down.

The Japanese soldier on the other hand lived in a bubble, they weren't allowed to embrace reality so they never lived in it. If bravery is knowing exactly what might happen and doing it anyway, that wasn't it.
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>>1317724
the USA.
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>>1317758
>implying the UNSC wasn't BTFO
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>>1317768
The UNSC survived the war.
The Covenant didn't.
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>>1317774
It was a clutch
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>>1317724
I wouldn't say they lost badly, but Japan was running on fumes for the final years of the war.

they originally seized Indochina and the Dutch East Indies to secure a wartime supply of iron and oil for the war effort, but by 1944, it was a goddamn gauntlet to get that material to Japan without harassment from either the US Navy, who was outproducing japan to where their navy outnumbered them 8-1, and Chinese units who would constantly destroy material convoys up the road through China.

but in the summer of 1945, Japan still had an impressive hold over Mainland Asia. pic related.

What did them in was being overwhelmed. between near daily firebombings of Japanese home cities, the Atom Bombs, and the Soviet entry into war that threatened to capture all of China, the Emperor simply saw no way to effectively resist such an onslaught with his navy in the bottom of the ocean and no fuel or metal to keep the tanks built and running.
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>>1317758
Orbital Drop Samurai Troops
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Because a Japanese Empire controlling all of East Asia would have threatened Russia too much and God loves Holy Rus' so he destroyed the Japanese.

t. Russophile American
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>>1317774
Bro the Covenant split between elites and brutes/jackals/grunts.
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>>1317846
So the Covenant didn't survive the war.
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>>1317846
right, it fell to civil war before it could finish killing humans
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>>1317724
Because they only ever managed to attack countries when they become weak and still failed terribly at that. Nips are all talk, really shit at war and conquest in the long term.
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>>1317765
Just because their national spirit was built upon a fantasy, that doesn't mean it's not national spirit.
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>>1317790
>I wouldn't say they lost badly
In nearly every battle they fought they lost 99% of their men. The U.S. usually lost the same amount, but never anywhere near the same percentage. They lost every battle after Wake quite horribly despite fighting tooth and nail to hold every single inch.
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>>1317857
The Covenant is still flying around the stars.
Human babbies are crying on Earth.
Who really won?

>>1318168
The Fall of Singapore pretty much overturns your entire argument.
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>>1319510
The reality of that event was that Yamashita's army were running out of supplies while the British still had a ton of ammo. Yamashita literally bluffed Percival.

The British were unprepared for the attack, yes, but the way they planned the defense of Malaya and Singapore makes me believe they actually wanted to lose the bloody place to begin with. Personally, I blame Churchill for that.
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