Was it for the best?
>>1316347
No, India should have stayed as a British subject.
>>1316347
For the best of the UK.
>>1316350
Britain is now a subject of Brussels. Pathetic fools cant even vote to save their own goddamn sovereignty.
>>1318730
Not for long
>>1316347
The Hindus should've just genocided the muds, would've saved a lot of trouble further down the road.
In fact I think that's the biggest crime of British colonization. They interrupted the Maratha Reconquista.
>>1316350
While I'd say that about Hong Kong, unlike HK the Indians didn't want that.
>>1316347
Better than the alternative.
>>1318738
The thing about the Marathas is other Hindu States viewed the Marathas as HUUU MARATHI COLONIALISM.
>>1318741
>unlike HK the Indians didn't want that.
It's never a normal day on /his/ without some historical revisionism.
>>1318766
[citation needed]
>>1318768
But that poster wasn't wrong.
There seems to be a clear majority in favour of British rule in Hong Kong or, perhaps, a self-rule based on British rule.
The situation in India is vastly different. Some Indians do want British rule, some want a self-rule more like British rule, other's despise the British with a passion and see them as responsible for all of India's ills.
>>1318775
>India not being a fucking national identity up until the 19th Century.
>>1318784
What has that got to do with your previous claim?
Shifting the goalposts?
>>1318780
>There seems to be a clear majority in favour of British rule in Hong Kong or, perhaps, a self-rule based on British rule.
At the very least, it's a fuck of a lot more preferrable to the mainland ever getting hold of it.
>>1316347
Would've happened anyway. No reconciliation would be possible if the people didn't want to reconcile their differences.
which they didn't, never would have and never will.
>>1318804
Muslims cant be reconcilled or reasoned with in general.
No one else claimed a seperate state. Christians, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains, Hindus, etc.
>>1318805
Go back to pol you islamophobic cunt
>>1318805
>Sikhs never claimed a seperate state.
Khalistan?
>Muslims can't be reconciled or reasoned with
Well, lots of Muslims decided to stay in India because they didn't want to separate. So yeah there's that.
>>1318813
It's not just /pol/ who hates Muslims
It's almost everyone.
Not that I really buy into the whole anti-Islam circlejerk. It's just fundamentalists who are the problem. And even though that's like half of Muslims, I don't think it's that hard to separate and define the two.
But, that's probably an issue for a different thread. maybe.
>>1318815
Also Hindus constantly claim they want a Hindu India. Beating the shit out of women, missionaries , muslims and all other dissidents who say otherwise.
And the Buddhists and Jains are such a minority of people. Pointing out they never asked for their own state is ludicrous. Of course they didn't ask for one. They'd be limited to a few kilometers of resource scarce land, you fuckin idiots.
>>1318813
Dude.
Everywhere Muslims go they cause problems. It is 7th century fundamentalism. Talk to any ex-Muslim, they will tell you how they would be legally executed in any Muslim country for apostsy. It is literally a capital offence to leave the religion, that defines it as a cult.
>>1318835
>Hindus
>Terrorizing anybody
If India were a Fundamental Christian or Muslim state they would have killed off and ethnically cleansed all other religious minorities a looooong time ago.
>>1318795
>Shifting Goalposts.
Idiot.
>India isn't a national identity prior 19th century.
>It was a collection of states of Indian peoples with various cultures and even languages.
>The Mughals are foreign conquerors of India.
>This does not jive well with the local populace
>The Marathas are an Indian state(s) who sought to dominate others.
>This does not jive well with non-Maratha states.
Was that very hard to understand?
>>1318824
It's a poor people problem.
>>1318780
>There seems to be a clear majority in favour of British rule in Hong Kong or, perhaps, a self-rule based on British rule.
Fuck no only shitty millennial who were born when the brits ruled say that. The young hkers and the older adults would rather be independent or at least the mainland bring an absent ruler.
>>1318876
>>The Marathas are an Indian state(s) who sought to dominate others.
>>This does not jive well with non-Maratha states.
That's not what you claimed you retard.
You said that "other Hindu States viewed the Marathas as HUUU MARATHI COLONIALISM."
That is false. Hindus viewed the Marathas as liberators.
>>1318835
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffron_terror
It happens. The religious nationalism can get pretty carried away back there.
Also it can get pretty rapey.
>>1318886
So why all the doctors and middle-class terrorists? Why all the Western Muslim terrorists? Why all the mass terrorism in Poor African Muslim countries, but not Poor African Christian ones?
Osama was a multimillionaire. Islam is a Death Cult that legalizes death to anyone who insults or leaves the religion.
>>1318917
The sum of all of that throughout history doesnt even add to one month of Islamic terror.
I have never head of a Hindu rape or crime gang in UK, but plenty of Paedophile sex rape rings for Christians and Muslims. Abrahamics are notorious for raping kids.
>>1318842
There are pretty much two types of ex Muslims
Those that came from third world trashheaps and complain about Muslims they haven't even met.
And those that came from secular/liberal as fuck families and couldn't buck the fuck up and ignore the screaming fundamentalist preachers Live from the Dakhalakhalakha Emirates on Youtube and the Anti-Islamic criticism memes.
>>1318919
>Why all the Western Muslim terrorists?
A lot are Muslim r9k's
>but not Poor African Christian ones?
You mean like because of Christianity or just African non Muslims committing organised violent acts like terrorism or dissent.
If the latter then plenty of examples
>>1318905
Anon, if you disagree with his point doesn't mean he's shifting goalpost.
>>1318926
>Christians
> widespread, often occuring sex rings
wat?
Go back to sucking off Deprak Chopra, New Age Eastern Religion convert faggot.
>>1318926
>All of that throughout history
>>1318937
>A lot are Muslim r9k's
Paris and Hebdo were all married men. Boston Bomber were two kids getting mad pussy, literally went to a party after. San Bernadine was a Couple. Orlando was another married Muslim.
Islam is a death cult by nature. Even in Western society it easily corrupts enough Muslims to be a major problem. It contributes nothing to 21st century society and endangers everyone around it. Islam should be relegated to the histroy bins.
>>1318942
There are people or sex rings in Christian countries but you can't blame them as Christians.
Belgium and Portugal had big ones but calling it a Christian ones is erroneous. Same applies to giving religious levels to ethnic gangs or ignoring the uk's massive child abuse history.
>>1318905
>That is false. Hindus viewed the Marathas as liberators.
This is what modern Indian Nationalism would want you to believe.
The Muslims among the Indians did not see so, not to mention the Jats and Rajputs spoke of "Maratha Domination."
>>1318942
It's true and you cant deny it. MASSIVE epidemics of Rape at every level in the Christian Churches that went all the way to the Pope's office. Strong rumors and connections with several high profile sex rape rings suggest that he may have been involved with himself.
Hence the damage control and new Hipster Pope that sucks off the feet of refugees and strongly lobbies for millions more muslim refugees into Europe.
Trying to scapegoat another religion to shamefully hide the mass rape hoardes of Priests is dishonest. I am an atheist by the way.
>>1318977
>Hipster Pope
He's a strict traditionalist. He ain't a leftist in the least bit. Left wing atheist faggots are just jealous he's more compassionate than a lefty could ever be.
Nothing changed. India still has the third most Muslims globally. Pakistan being second and Bangladesh being fourth.
>>1318970
>The Muslims among the Indians did not see so,
Hence why I said "Hindu". Do you have reading comprehension problems?
Muslims in India are so heavily inbred that this had an eugenic effect on the hindu population that was left behin as they are a people that actually is compelled by religious dogma to go into the neighbooring village to look for a girl of the same caste and not just fucking their 12 year old cousin.
It is better that way, albeit there is still a remaining population in India that breeds faster then it should.
>>1319043
>things that never happen for 500
When did this place become Islamophobic pol-lite?
>>1319043
>"Muslims are so ebil. Almost perfectly ebil. It's almost as if I'm demonizing them all based on the half of them that are shit"
>>1319060
I said inbred not evil.
Learn to read.
You can just google "Pakistan inbreeding" and judge the sources for yourself but fucking your cousins for hundreds of years leaves a mark.
>>1316347
>cucked by Islam .jpg
when will the Sikh bros just take over?
>>1319102
Literally never. When you're 2% of India's population expect fuck all to be done.
>>1319073
Saying your enemies are inbred in order to paint them as something subhuman isn't demonizing them?
huh.
>>1319102
Aren't the tenets of Sikhism at least partially syncretic with Islam?
>>1319112
But they are.
Its a fact.
Look it up, the brits start to worry about their pakistani communities due to the staggering rates of disabilities.
I dont say they are inbred because I dont like them, I dont like them because their society has led to inbreeding and thus suffering.
>>1319120
Arabs and South Asian's ain't all Muslims.
They're a big chunk. And have massive fucking problems. And political correctness needs to be fucking destroyed so we can deal with them.
But they are not Islam in general. Criticize them.
>>1319130
Seriously. Don't be afraid to be racist. It's less of a retarded generalization than generalizing a whole religion.
Especially one that basically has no central authority and more schools of thought than almost any other major religion.
>>1319073
Only rural Pakistan is fuvked up and that's from a Pakistani friend who has lived in Pakistan.
Jews have genetic diseases due to marrying within themselves and a certain subset of Finns also suffer a similar problem.
>>1319130
But south asian hindus have religious dogmas that prevent cousin marriage.
Making it a race thing would ve unfair towards the indians.
Look up gotras and enforced exogamy.
Its a religious problem not a racial one as hindu south east asians dont have a genepool as corrupted as the pakistani one.
Sure I searched further and saw that hanbali Islam looks down on it but thats just a small percentage of muslims and while Im sure that there are other muslim countries that do not have such problems it still applies to India and its muslims which this thread was all about.
India should have split even more. It should never have been a single state in the first place.
>>1319169
Cousin marriage varies by status, location, job in Pakistan though.
>>1319157
>only
Thats 60% of their population.
Its nice to hear that in the cities its getting better (better education?), but dont said cities usually draw upon the rural areas as population replenishment as it is elsewhere is the world?
>>1319179
So the upperclass is not affected?
>>1318813
so for you /pol/ exists in the Philippines, in Xinjiang, in Kashmir, in Sudan and in Nigeria?
everywhere big muslim populations live next to big not muslim populations, they create problems.
Intermarriage with muslims is impossible. With the only exception being muslim man marries non muslim woman, and the kids are always muslim.
>>1318848
Obviously you don't keep up to date with the reports of Hindu's persecuting Christians in the South of India.
>>1319116
Yes but only when compared to the rest of the religions created in the Subcontinent, t.b.h.
>>1316347
>Was it for the best?
Separating the Muslims from the Hindus was but the Muslim areas should have been incorporated into a Greater Iran.
>>1319174
This.
>>1321320
You do realize Pakistan and Bangladesh are predominantly Orthodox right? There's a strong Shiite minority but like 80% is Sunni.
>>1321320
The amount of butthurt around the world would've been massive.
But I agree that the afghan part of Pakistan should've been granted to Afghanistan and Balochistan to either the afghans or the iranians. Its unthinkable this would've happened though.
>>1321348
Iran was kinda secular back then.
>>1321011
To be fair senpai the muslim filipinos were there longer
No part of the current Pakistan voted for Muslim league the fact it was established was as a buffer state to prevent the USSR from turning India red. This was with separate electorates that the Brits instated.
The biggest migration in history. One of the worst genocides. The establishment of the first Islamic state that now hosts more terrorists than any other country. One of the worst mistakes.
>>1316622
/thread
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>>1322842
That's bullshit.
Islam came to the Islands during 1200's there were already established polities and states in the islands back then. I'm tired of arguing with people like you in the streets i shall not have it in the interwebs.
>>1324086
> there were already established polities and states in the islands back then
You mean the same Indianized Flips who actually converted to Islam because it presented better trade deals?
Only the oogaboogs remained Hindu-Animists.
>>1318824
>It's not just /pol/ who hates Muslims
>It's almost everyone.
t.Benir Ibn Ghazi Al-Flecki.
>>1324125
>oogaboogs
You're forgetting the Luzon states who monopolized the trade with China that gave even the nipponese envy boner. The only slime settlement in the north was Manila and it was only there due to the trade.
And the Sultanates weren't as big nor strong as they would like to believe.
>>1316347
Was what for the best?
>>1324149
>And the Sultanates weren't as big nor strong as they would like to believe.
Except they were.
There's a reason why Animist got Spic-cucked first, hon.
>>1318835
>amerilard 'missionary' comes in and starts screaming that that gods they have kept for thousands of years are ebil
>gets beat up
>"why are you hitting me?"
fuck off.
>>1319223
>Durrani was the one the put an end to Maratha power
the one they rebounded from post third battle of panipat?
>>1324516
>Spic-cucked first, hon
Do you even know what you are talking about?
>>1319116
Such as?
>>1316347
Assuming that the Muslim population would not have gone down significantly in the Pakistan/Bangladesh areas then yes. If India+Bangladesh+Pakistan had remained one superstate without one clear religious majority there would have been way more strife.
Not to mention that India's population growth already negated most of the benefits from modernization and industrialization so if it had way more impoverished people there would have been even less improvement.
>>1325918
not really no. More indians are living better now than they were before at any other point in history.
yes, its still abysmal by the yardstick of the first world.
>>1319169
Didn't Buddha marry his cousin before he stopped being Hindu?
>>1328117
>stopped being hindu
No such thing, hinduism as we know today didnt exist back then
Its largely a british invention to seperate muslims and original local people
