How long would the New Order (a peaceful Europe post-war following an Axis victory) had reasonably lasted before revolts and rebellions would overpower the German, Italian etc overlords?
Remember that Mussolini wanted to re-establish the Roman Empire and also control all of the Mediterranean. Also remember that France was to be restored under the government that Vichy France had. So Hitler would have constant uprising issues in the Reichskommissariats while Mussolini would have them across the Med.
>>1310795
>Axis Victory
Is that even possible?
>>1310802
There have been constant debates about this. Let's not fall into another one.
1000 years, maybe more.
All of Europe would look like Western Europe during the Cold War minus the red threat.
A quiet, peacefull and prosperous place, free of leftist ideological cancer.
One of the major issues to deal with is the United Kingdom, the most simple solution would be Hitler's proposed 'peace with honour' but that involves Halifax's peace lobby being able to outmanouvre Churchill and those in favour of continued fighting in the War cabinet, which seems very unlikely.
Then if the Nazi Regime occupies Britain it may have to be a permanent occupation, members of the political establishment were totally opposed to any form of collaboration, and no willing allies were to be found even in Britain's far right, to head a puppet regime in the British Isles. The only possible collaborator at all being Arthur Donaldson a rank and file member of the Scottish National Party (though a later leader in the 60s) who was detained under 18b over claims he planned to establish a Quisling style puppet regime, and was found with a large cache of weapons in his home. There were no largely active political figures willing to head a government for Hitler
>>1310795
Not long at all.
For starters, an axis victory probably means defeating the USSR somehow and then holding off the Western Allies until they get bored and go home, which means LOTS of strategic bombing, possibly even nuclear bombing. A victorious Germany isn't going to be some pristine, wonderful state, it's going to be a bombed out ruin trying to rule over other bombed out ruins.
And to be honest, the rebellions are going to be there from the start, and likely supported by their enemies in the western world. The question is how long does it take for them to be serious, serious problems.
>>1311140
>>1311140
Hitler adressed this in one of his speeches, basically he said that one of the major reasons for the genocidal allied bombing runs against defenseless german civilian cities was because the allies themselves could never construct such beautiful high cultural places and so they resorted to destroying what they themselves could never create. In that same speech he also said that the german people will rebuild everything that was lost to allied military savagery even bigger and more beautiful than it was before.
Consider the fact that it took barely a decade for germany to prosper again after the armistice was signed. Most major cities were already fully functional for the most part in the 1950's; That's a major feat especially considering that this was done without the allieds help, german civilians all did it by themselves. If Germany had won it would've been done even faster since the whole Reich government would have supported the rebuilding effort, the same Reich government that literally send the first human-made objects into space and discovered the power of electromagnetic Vril levitation, among countless other technological breakthroughs within an incredibly short timeframe.
>>1311159
>the genocidal allied bombing runs against defenseless german civilian cities
>>1311159
>Hitler adressed this in one of his speeches, basically he said that one of the major reasons for the genocidal allied bombing runs against defenseless german civilian cities was because the allies themselves could never construct such beautiful high cultural places and so they resorted to destroying what they themselves could never create
He says while occupying Paris.
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Consider the fact that it took barely a decade for germany to prosper again after the armistice was signed. Most major cities were already fully functional for the most part in the 1950's; That's a major feat especially considering that this was done without the allieds help, german civilians all did it by themselves.
Never heard of the Marshall plan, huh? And that's after 3 years of emergency relief. And the cancellation of all debts that (West) Germany had outstanding.
They did not do it on their fucking own. They mostly did it on U.S. material.
And let's not forget that this is a hypothetical where the bombing is much, much worse. Berlin is probably pockmarked with radioactive craters. Plural.
And please? Nazi science? Meme harder. Sure, they did good with rocketry, but they were way behind on lots of other areas, like smaller radar systems, conventional propulsion, especially ships, handheld antitank weapons, radios, etc.
The National Socialist Europe plans envisaged for the post-war order against a united Europe in which the German Reich would occupy a leading political and economic role.
They sought to make Germany self-sufficient. Ultimately, these self-sufficiency was only within a Greater Europe to achieve, would in which Germany playing a dominant role.
Herbert Backe wrote 1942:
"It is not the self-sufficiency of each European state is the task facing the future, but the self-sufficiency of Greater continental Europe." [1]
The aim was thus not world market, but large market in continental Europe. [1] This was the internationalist capitalism an eyesore. In his memoirs, Winston Churchill noted: "The unpardonable crime of Germany before the Second World War was an attempt to extract its economic power from the world trading system and to create a private exchange system in which the world financial could not earn."
